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Russian Armor Green?

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Bluepen - 25 Jul 2007 04:37 GMT
Does anyone have a recipe for Russian green that I can spray on?

Thanks.

Lance
Rufus - 25 Jul 2007 04:59 GMT
> Does anyone have a recipe for Russian green that I can spray on?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Lance

Testors Model Master Russian Armor Green pours right into your airbrush...

http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=TS2129

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Jim - 28 Jul 2007 13:30 GMT
I can definately give approval to the Testor's Russian Armor Green.  Used it
on a KV-1 with excellent results, even brought a trophy home from a contest
with it.  It is semi-gloss, IIRC.

>> Does anyone have a recipe for Russian green that I can spray on?
>>
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> http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=TS2129
AMPSOne@aol.com - 25 Jul 2007 14:16 GMT
> Does anyone have a recipe for Russian green that I can spray on?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Lance

According to the Russians and the Mark IA eyeball FS34102 Green is
very close and pretty common -- all paint lines seem to carry it.

Cookie Sewell
vor92@yahoo.com - 15 Aug 2007 07:50 GMT
Cookie, do you know why the 34102 reference was only in the Russian
edition, & not the English?

> According to the Russians and the Mark IA eyeball FS34102 Green is
> very close and pretty common -- all paint lines seem to carry it.
>
> Cookie Sewell
AMPSOne@aol.com - 15 Aug 2007 20:23 GMT
On Aug 15, 1:50?am, vo...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Cookie, do you know why the 34102 reference was only in the Russian
> edition, & not the English?
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Most of their comments have been on the Internet or interally in
Russian-language magazines like M-Khobby or Tankomaster, which few in
the West can read. That is probably one reason why you hear so little
about it.

Cookie Sewell
vor92@yahoo.com - 16 Aug 2007 04:51 GMT
No, it's not that I don't accept it, it's just that I thought the news
first broke with that Russian book on tank camouflage that got
translated into English, & then went OOP.  I recall the 34102 being
divulged in a caption to a photo in the Russian edition...but the
English translation took out the FS 595 reference.  I thought it
really odd considering how important that info was.
AMPSOne@aol.com - 16 Aug 2007 19:21 GMT
On Aug 15, 10:51?pm, vo...@yahoo.com wrote:
> No, it's not that I don't accept it, it's just that I thought the news
> first broke with that Russian book on tank camouflage that got
> translated into English, & then went OOP.  I recall the 34102 being
> divulged in a caption to a photo in the Russian edition...but the
> English translation took out the FS 595 reference.  I thought it
> really odd considering how important that info was.

Well, since I translated the book for them (back when Exprint was sort
of convinced if you put your books in English they would sell better
abroad!) what happened was the original comments were in the authors'
English language preface, which was left out of the English language
version. That wasn't my call!

Cookie Sewell
Ron Smith - 17 Aug 2007 16:31 GMT
> On Aug 15, 10:51?pm, vo...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
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>
> Cookie Sewell

I worked with a Russian emigre that  had been a Colonel in the
artillery. Just for giggles I asked him what color green they used to
guns and tanks. His response was, "Green, just green, whatever five year
plan had most of."
AMPSOne@aol.com - 17 Aug 2007 23:06 GMT
> I worked with a Russian emigre that  had been a Colonel in the
> artillery. Just for giggles I asked him what color green they used to
> guns and tanks. His response was, "Green, just green, whatever five year
> plan had most of."- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Not that far off. I've seen modern ones which weather out to every
shade of green from black to chartreuse!

I talked about this with Steve Zaloga and his observation was that
when new and in 1/1 scale the color was probably closer to FS 34088,
but when you "shrink" it to model densities and give it a bit of
lightening the 34102 is not far off.

Cookie Sewell
Pat Flannery - 18 Aug 2007 00:49 GMT
>> I worked with a Russian emigre that  had been a Colonel in the
>> artillery. Just for giggles I asked him what color green they used to
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> but when you "shrink" it to model densities and give it a bit of
> lightening the 34102 is not far off.

The camouflage on their modern jets was also extremely varied,
particularly the ones in the air-to-ground roll.

Pat
vor92@yahoo.com - 22 Aug 2007 20:09 GMT
That's amazing that you translated it.  I don't recall seeing your
name in the credits.  Well, thanks!

I also don't recall an English preface in the Exprint.  I need to go
back & have a look.

I also wonder the details of how they determined 34102.  My own
research into our own OD's reveals a huge metameric effect with the
dark camo colors.  Chip size, light source, background color have huge
effects.
AMPSOne@aol.com - 24 Aug 2007 01:50 GMT
On Aug 22, 2:09?pm, vo...@yahoo.com wrote:
> That's amazing that you translated it.  I don't recall seeing your
> name in the credits.  Well, thanks!
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> dark camo colors.  Chip size, light source, background color have huge
> effects.

Note that it was the big (A4 size) one with the green cover and not
the mini-size version they redid later.

Cookie Sewell
vor92@yahoo.com - 24 Aug 2007 03:49 GMT
Yes, I just looked.
-Stephen Sewell-

I'm always looking for Cookie.  Are you going to be in Anaheim?
AMPSOne@aol.com - 24 Aug 2007 20:54 GMT
On Aug 23, 9:49?pm, vo...@yahoo.com wrote:
> Yes, I just looked.
> -Stephen Sewell-
>
> I'm always looking for Cookie.  Are you going to be in Anaheim?

Alas, no, have to work this year. Sigh,

Cookie Sewell
 
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