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Scraper - 27 Jul 2007 03:12 GMT
I have several old plastic truck kits and wish to remove the enamel paint
from cabs on them. What is a safe way to do this without marking the
plastic? Any suggestions will be appreciated.
Pat Flannery - 27 Jul 2007 06:44 GMT
> I have several old plastic truck kits and wish to remove the enamel paint
> from cabs on them. What is a safe way to do this without marking the
> plastic? Any suggestions will be appreciated.
>
>  

Check this article: http://www.bonediggers.com/1-3/strip/strip.html

Pat
Scraper - 27 Jul 2007 07:40 GMT
>> I have several old plastic truck kits and wish to remove the enamel paint
>> from cabs on them. What is a safe way to do this without marking the
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>
> Pat

Thanks Pat
Very informative. Will give the brake fluid a try
Mick - 28 Jul 2007 18:56 GMT
I use Mr Muscles oven cleaner and it works perfectly.

> I have several old plastic truck kits and wish to remove the enamel paint
> from cabs on them. What is a safe way to do this without marking the
> plastic? Any suggestions will be appreciated.
the_tool_man - 30 Jul 2007 12:32 GMT
Hi Scraper:

I've used Castrol Super Clean with great results.  Removed 99% of the
paint with no effect on the plastic.  Now it's sold at Wal-mart under
the name Super Clean in purple jugs.  Fantastic stuff.

Regards,
John.
Larry Farrell - 30 Jul 2007 15:12 GMT
> Hi Scraper:
>
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> Regards,
> John.

Do *not* use Super Clean in a metal container (even a foil pan of the
sort I *used* to use for paint removal), since it will eat the container
while doing a great job of removing paint from your model.  Plastic or
glass is fine, and paint removal is usually very good.  It takes a bit
longer than brake fluid, in my experience, but it has little or no
effect on the plastic, unlike brake fluid.

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Idaho State University

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Pat Flannery - 01 Aug 2007 20:08 GMT
> Do *not* use Super Clean in a metal container (even a foil pan of the
> sort I *used* to use for paint removal), since it will eat the
> container while doing a great job of removing paint from your model.

Oh yeah, this stuff sounds safe.
I take it you wear gloves while doing this. :-)

Pat
Larry Farrell - 01 Aug 2007 20:27 GMT
>> Do *not* use Super Clean in a metal container (even a foil pan of the
>> sort I *used* to use for paint removal), since it will eat the
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>
> Pat

Of course, as I do when using brake fluid or anything else to remove
paint from models.  Super Clean really isn't that bad on short
exposure, washing quickly and easily removes it without problems if
not left on the skin too long.  And putting it in a metal container
for a short period isn't a problem either.  It is just that longer
term storage in metal, the time required to remove paint from a model,
results in significant effects on the metal.  In the case of the foil
pan, overnight was sufficient that the entire pan dissolved.

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Pat Flannery - 01 Aug 2007 20:51 GMT
> It is just that longer term storage in metal, the time required to
> remove paint from a model, results in significant effects on the
> metal.  In the case of the foil pan, overnight was sufficient that the
> entire pan dissolved.

It would be interesting to see what the chemical reaction going on there
is like. I did a little digging on the web and apparently both caustic
soda and sodium hydroxide both attack aluminum.

Pat
Tony Gartshore - 01 Aug 2007 22:04 GMT
> > It is just that longer term storage in metal, the time required to
> > remove paint from a model, results in significant effects on the
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>
> Pat

Hardly surprising as they're the same thing !

I would have expected 'some' attack on plastic though..

T.
Pat Flannery - 03 Aug 2007 02:57 GMT
> Hardly surprising as they're the same thing !
>  

I worked with large quantities of sodium hydroxide many years ago; our
other name for it was caustic lye, but it also goes by the caustic soda
name as well as sodium hydrate (don't mix it with sulphuric acid, as it
will explode).
There's data on it here, and they mention etching aluminum with it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_hydroxide

> I would have expected 'some' attack on plastic though..
>  

So would I.

Pat
Stephen Tontoni - 03 Aug 2007 09:25 GMT
> > Hardly surprising as they're the same thing !
> >  
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> name as well as sodium hydrate (don't mix it with sulphuric acid, as it
> will explode).

==snippage==

Isn't sodium hydroxide the active agent in Dran-o? I experimented with
Strip-a-kit years ago as a favor and while I was rinsing it off the
model (it worked quite well) some very diluted drops splashed on my
shirt. I didn't think anything of it since they were small drops and I
knew how watery they were.

Well I developed some red welts on my stomach and ended up going to the
emergency room for some minor burns (I didn't know how to treat this
kind). Since the chemical was bonding with hydrogen in my skin and thus
eating into me, the doctor simply sent me home to sit in a bath. That
drew the chemical out of me as it bound with hydrogen. When I showed
them the Strip-a-kit bottle, they said it was basically liquid Dran-o.

Anyhow, although the product worked, I didn't like how nasty it was. Now
when I need to strip paint, I use Castrol super degreaser with excellent
effect.

--- Stephen
Pat Flannery - 03 Aug 2007 19:54 GMT
> Isn't sodium hydroxide the active agent in Dran-o?

Yup, I'm pretty sure that's the case.

> Well I developed some red welts on my stomach and ended up going to the
> emergency room for some minor burns (I didn't know how to treat this
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> them the Strip-a-kit bottle, they said it was basically liquid Dran-o.
>  

And now you get to hear the sodium hydroxide horror story; the reason I
was using it was for protein analysis on grain samples. Besides that
stuff, we also had pure sulphuric acid and mercury to work with.
The sodium hydroxide was mixed with water to make a very caustic liquid
mixture that was kept in a ten gallon glass bottle on a shelf and then
distributed down a rubber tube to  the flasks where the grain samples were.
My boss put the bottle on the shelf and to start the siphon effect out
of the bottle into the tube by sucking on the tube...and one day he
sucked too hard on the tube and got a mouthful of sodium hydroxide
solution. Then he spent a week in the hospital as his tongue shrank back
down to a size where it could fit in his mouth again.
I never did that, but I did get sulphuric acid on my hands that caused
my fingernails to start to detach from my fingers due to the acid
getting under them and starting to dissolve the flesh that held them to
my fingertips.

Pat
unamodeler - 04 Aug 2007 02:47 GMT
. When I showed
> them the Strip-a-kit bottle, they said it was basically liquid Dran-o.
>
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>
> --- Stephen

Your Medical folks exaggerated just a bit.  Yes, Strip-A-Kit  DOES
contain Sodium Hydroxide - - but certainly much, much LESS than what
you find in EZ Off Oven Cleaner!  (The SAK formula contains less than
5%
Sodium Hydroxide.)  The majority of the product is derived from
naturally
occuring ORGANIC elements.

Unlike some of the "homebrews" mentioned here, SAK is shipped with
precautionary instructions and a pair of latex gloves.  We all know
that
modelers never read instructions........but for your own safety, we DO
recommend that you protect yourself when using ANY sort of stripper.

~Rick Fluke
Pat Flannery - 04 Aug 2007 05:52 GMT
> but for your own safety, we DO
> recommend that you protect yourself when using ANY sort of stripper.

That sounds like it should come with a box of condoms also. :-)

Pat
Peter W. - 03 Aug 2007 09:30 GMT
> > Hardly surprising as they're the same thing !
>
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>
> Pat

Lye does not attack polystyrene.  I've left items in lye solution for
several days with no signs of damage.  But I can't say how it will
affect resin cast parts.  I suspect that the polyester resins will not
be affected (but don't take my word for it).

But lye does attack many metals (it is corrosive).

Peteski
bluumule - 30 Jul 2007 15:56 GMT
> Hi Scraper:
>
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> Regards,
> John.

Plus you can strain it through a screen to remove the paint chunks and
still be able to use it to clean oily spots off the garage floor.
Using brake fluid or oven cleaner does you or environment any good.
Dump those down the drain could get you in dutch.

Other choices I use besides Castrol SC is Westley's Bleach-White or
Simple Green. All three available at most full service department or
automotive stores.
crw59@earthlink.net - 31 Jul 2007 18:34 GMT
> > Hi Scraper:
>
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> Simple Green. All three available at most full service department or
> automotive stores.

how do any of the above suggestions react to resin figures?  have
several large nude figures that I would like to try and paint
again....

Craig
Mad-Modeller - 01 Aug 2007 05:51 GMT
> > > Hi Scraper:
> >
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>
> Craig

I don't think Castrol is a good idea for resin.  Westley's is usually
recommended for cleaning release off of resin but I wouldn't let the
item soak in it.  I don't know enough about Simple Green.

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
Pat Flannery - 01 Aug 2007 06:11 GMT
>> how do any of the above suggestions react to resin figures?  have
>> several large nude figures that I would like to try and paint
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> Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
>  

How come I get the feeling that he wants to paint these figures
over-and-over again on a weekly basis?
"And now, your name is Donna... and you aren't at all like that prissy
little blonde Mindy, are you?
No...you are a redhead.
And you are a slut." ;-)  

Pat
Mad-Modeller - 02 Aug 2007 07:12 GMT
> >> how do any of the above suggestions react to resin figures?  have
> >> several large nude figures that I would like to try and paint
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>
> Pat

You have a delightfully twisted mind. :)

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
crw59@earthlink.net - 02 Aug 2007 19:06 GMT
> >> how do any of the above suggestions react to resin figures?  have
> >> several large nude figures that I would like to try and paint
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> Pat

uh oh, my secret is out.  yep, wanna paint all my figures again in
commando mode.....  No where was that Tamiya flesh again???

Craig
 
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