All,
I have 3 submarine models in 1/700 scale and I want to do a
waterfront/pier diorama. Finding the correct scale materials for this has
proved difficult. I thought of using model railroad stuff as part of it.
What railroad scale corresponds to this? And does anybody know where a
source of good material for this scale including figures.
Thanks
Jeff Muniz
bluumule - 30 Jul 2007 17:13 GMT
I think you are looking at scratchbuilding what you need.
kim - 30 Jul 2007 17:20 GMT
> All,
> I have 3 submarine models in 1/700 scale and I want to do a
> waterfront/pier diorama.
Wouldn't that mean removing the bottom two thirds of the models, unless
they're in dry dock?
> Finding the correct scale materials for this has
> proved difficult. I thought of using model railroad stuff as part of it.
> What railroad scale corresponds to this?
None. The smallest commercial scale is Z-gauge which is 1/220th.
>And does anybody know where a
> source of good material for this scale including figures.
The smallest I've ever seen are quarter inch wargaming figures which
correspond to around 1/600th and they were not available individually, only
in fixed formations.
(kim)
willshak - 30 Jul 2007 21:35 GMT
on 7/30/2007 12:20 PM kim said the following:
>
>> All,
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> they're in dry dock?
>
All the 1/700 ships I have are waterline models.
>
>> Finding the correct scale materials for this has
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>
> (kim)

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kim - 31 Jul 2007 13:41 GMT
> on 7/30/2007 12:20 PM kim said the following:
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> All the 1/700 ships I have are waterline models.
Would not a waterline model of a submarine be a contradiction in terms?
(kim)
willshak - 31 Jul 2007 14:04 GMT
on 7/31/2007 8:43 AM kim said the following:
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>> on 7/30/2007 12:20 PM kim said the following:
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> (kim)
I don't know if that was a humorous comment or not, but if not, the
answer is No.
Waterline does not necessary mean that the ship has a painted waterline,
but when afloat, the limit of water displacement.
Aoshima, Hasegawa, and Tamiya, for example, have a lot of 1/700
waterline ship model in their "Water Line Series", which includes
submarines.
http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/list/622/0/1
Scroll down and look for Water Line in the Series category.

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kim - 01 Aug 2007 20:17 GMT
> on 7/31/2007 8:43 AM kim said the following:
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> http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/list/622/0/1
> Scroll down and look for Water Line in the Series category.
Thanks for that, those are the first ones I've seen. I just wanted us to be
clear the original poster was asking about submarines and not about surface
vessels.
(kim)
Mick - 30 Jul 2007 18:21 GMT
Eduard make 1/700 naval figures .I know that Hannants here in the UK sell
them.
> All,
> I have 3 submarine models in 1/700 scale and I want to do a
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> Thanks
> Jeff Muniz
Pat Flannery - 30 Jul 2007 20:40 GMT
> Eduard make 1/700 naval figures .I know that Hannants here in the UK sell
> them.
>
>
Ebay:
http://tinyurl.com/yno8gu
http://tinyurl.com/2erbwg
Gold Medal Models:
http://www.goldmm.com/ships/gmsanfig.htm
Pat
Wayne C. Morris - 30 Jul 2007 19:25 GMT
> All,
> I have 3 submarine models in 1/700 scale and I want to do a
> waterfront/pier diorama. Finding the correct scale materials for this has
> proved difficult. I thought of using model railroad stuff as part of it.
> What railroad scale corresponds to this? And does anybody know where a
> source of good material for this scale including figures.
Model railroad stuff doesn't even come close. The smallest that's
commercially available is Z scale = 1/220.
Gold Medal Models makes a set of photo-etched figures in 1/700 scale:
<http://www.goldmm.com/ships/gmsanfig.htm>
Pat Flannery - 30 Jul 2007 20:29 GMT
> All,
> I have 3 submarine models in 1/700 scale and I want to do a
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> source of good material for this scale including figures.
>
No railway scale is anywhere near that small.
Skywave to the rescue: http://www.internethobbies.com/skywav17scen.html
Pat
Moramarth - 30 Jul 2007 21:51 GMT
> > All,
> > I have 3 submarine models in 1/700 scale and I want to do a
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>
> Pat
Perhaps also a firm called Skytrex, although I've not been able to
ascertain its web presence.
Although primarily catering for wargamers, they produce nice (but
pricey) metal 1:700 warships under the brand name "Meridian".
ISTR an advert (probably in "Wargames Illustrated") for accessories
for some of these, which included railway trains, tanks, etc.
This was quite a while ago, and I don't know the current production
status.
I'm only hoping my decrepit brain isn't confusing it with some 1:600
or 1:1200 range... :(
Regards,
Moramarth
Moramarth - 30 Jul 2007 22:00 GMT
> Perhaps also a firm called Skytrex, although I've not been able to
> ascertain its web presence.
http://www.skytrex.com/.
> I'm only hoping my decrepit brain isn't confusing it with some 1:600
> or 1:1200 range... :(
Aaargh - it was! Triton 1:600 range... Sorry!
> Regards,
>
> Moramarth
Pat Flannery - 31 Jul 2007 00:26 GMT
> Perhaps also a firm called Skytrex, although I've not been able to
> ascertain its web presence.
>
I found it, and it has a subsidiary called Triton that does dockyard
accessories, but unfortunately they are in 1/1250 scale:
http://www.skytrex.com/
However, White Ensign Models does 1/700th scale dockyard accessories:
http://tinyurl.com/3yrjvl
Pat
willshak - 30 Jul 2007 23:29 GMT
on 7/30/2007 12:11 PM Jeff said the following:
> All,
> I have 3 submarine models in 1/700 scale and I want to do a
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> Thanks
> Jeff Muniz
At 1/700 scale, a 6" tall figure would be about 1/10th of an inch. There
is no way you could model anything with any detail at that scale unless
you were able to model at the molecule level.

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Pat Flannery - 31 Jul 2007 00:34 GMT
> At 1/700 scale, a 6" tall figure would be about 1/10th of an inch.
> There is no way you could model anything with any detail at that scale
> unless you were able to model at the molecule level.
They're done with photoetch; if you are lucky, they are prepainted. If
you're not...well, let's hope you have good eyesight, a tiny paintbrush,
and a lot of patience.
The trick is going to be superglueing them to the scene. Because there's
a very good chance that they are going to end up superglued to you or
your tweezers. ;-)
Pat
willshak - 31 Jul 2007 13:37 GMT
on 7/30/2007 7:34 PM Pat Flannery said the following:
>> At 1/700 scale, a 6" tall figure would be about 1/10th of an inch.
>> There is no way you could model anything with any detail at that
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>
> Pat
I'll have to see a PE figure 3/32" tall to believe it.

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Pat Flannery - 31 Jul 2007 16:37 GMT
> I'll have to see a PE figure 3/32" tall to believe it.
(waves magic wand)
And so you shall: http://tinyurl.com/yno8gu
Pat :-)
PaPaPeng - 31 Jul 2007 17:38 GMT
>All,
> I have 3 submarine models in 1/700 scale and I want to do a
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>Thanks
>Jeff Muniz
It will likely be a lot easier to pick an existing railway model and
scratchbuild the submarines to this scale using your kit parts as
patterns.