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Interior color of F4B-4 & P-26

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Stanley Parker - 02 Aug 2007 07:47 GMT
Am thinking about building a 1/32 scale Hasagawa F4B-4 & P-26. Does anyone
know what the interior colors would be?
Thanks for the help.

Stan Parker
Ol' 45 - 02 Aug 2007 16:03 GMT
On Aug 2, 12:47 am, "Stanley Parker"
<stanleyjohnfinanpar...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Am thinking about building a 1/32 scale Hasagawa F4B-4 & P-26. Does anyone
> know what the interior colors would be?
> Thanks for the help.
>
> Stan Parker

Hi Stan,
Don't know about the F4B-4, but the P-26s were just natural
aluminum on the interior including the seat with a black instrument
panel. Control  knobs varied. Since most photos from that era are b/w
it's
hard to tell about them other than light and dark.
You should check internet sites for a restored P-26, I'm pretty
sure that the Air Force Museum has one.
                                Ol ' 45
Don Stauffer in Minnesota - 02 Aug 2007 22:16 GMT
On Aug 2, 1:47 am, "Stanley Parker"
<stanleyjohnfinanpar...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Am thinking about building a 1/32 scale Hasagawa F4B-4 & P-26. Does anyone
> know what the interior colors would be?
> Thanks for the help.
>
> Stan Parker

There is a great picture of an F4B on the web- do a search of Google
Images.  It was rebuilt by the museum from a P-12, but claim to have
done a careful and accurate rebuild to F4B configuration and color.
As I remember it, much of the interior was silver paint like the
fuselage exterior color.
Pat Flannery - 03 Aug 2007 04:48 GMT
> There is a great picture of an F4B on the web- do a search of Google
> Images.  It was rebuilt by the museum from a P-12, but claim to have
> done a careful and accurate rebuild to F4B configuration and color.
> As I remember it, much of the interior was silver paint like the
> fuselage exterior color.
>  

The pictures I found showed the interior as light gray:
http://airminded.net/F4b/f4b_nmna.html
They probably wouldn't go for unpainted interior surfaces, due to
corrosion by saltwater spray.

Pat
Don McIntyre - 03 Aug 2007 15:12 GMT
<snip>

> They probably wouldn't go for unpainted interior surfaces, due to
> corrosion by saltwater spray.
>
> Pat

Actually, IIRC they were just natural aluminum with clear lacquer
sprayed over it.
Pat Flannery - 03 Aug 2007 04:23 GMT
> Am thinking about building a 1/32 scale Hasagawa F4B-4 & P-26. Does anyone
> know what the interior colors would be?
> Thanks for the help.
>  

P-26 info here:
http://www.internetmodeler.com/2000/august/aviation/peashooter.htm
Interior is natural aluminum.
Really nice color cockpit photos here:
http://uscockpits.com/Early%20Fighters/P-26A%20Boeing.jpg
http://uscockpits.com/Early%20Fighters/P-26A%20Peashooter.jpg
Building the Hasegawa F4B-4:
http://www.freewebs.com/jaeamf/theboeingf4b4.htm
B&W F4B-4/P-12 cockpit shots here:
http://www.airminded.net/F4b/p12_cpit1.jpg
http://www.airminded.net/F4b/p12_cpit2.jpg

Pat
Stephen Tontoni - 03 Aug 2007 09:19 GMT
With the F4B-4, I think it would be smart to split the difference; shoot
the interior with a silver and dull-cote it. It'll end up looking
slightly metallic gray, which is probably pretty close to what it was.
As for museum pieces, I'd be careful; renovated planes are frequently
painted incorrectly.

As for the P-26, I don't have many references that are helpful. What I
have seems to indicate a light gray, but I'm guessing here.

Don't worry about it; close enough is good enough.

---- Stephen
Pat Flannery - 03 Aug 2007 19:39 GMT
> With the F4B-4, I think it would be smart to split the difference; shoot
> the interior with a silver and dull-cote it. It'll end up looking
> slightly metallic gray, which is probably pretty close to what it was.
> As for museum pieces, I'd be careful; renovated planes are frequently
> painted incorrectly.
>  

Everything I've located on the web says natural aluminum for the P-26,
and light gray for the F4B-4.
If they had painted the P-26 cockpit, it probably would have been in
zinc chromate green.
It's very unlikely that the F4B-4 would have been left in natural metal,
because service aboard the carriers would mean it would be in a
environment where corrosion occurs easily due to the humidity and salt,
and they would want to protect the metal from that. There would be one
way to check for sure, and that would be to contact the Smithsonian Air
and Space Museum; they have a restored P-26 and F4B-4, and they pride
themselves on restoring aircraft completely accurately as far as paint
scheme goes.
It looks like this guy, who pretty much scratchbuilt the entire cockpit
for his Hasegawa F4B-4, put a fair amount of research into its paint
scheme: http://modelingmadness.com/reviews/preww2/huif4b.htm
I found the silver-doped wings interesting, as I always thought they
were gray.
BTW, I had the 1/32nd P-26, and it looks really sharp in that blue
fuselage scheme.

Pat
 
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