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Changes in Pacific Theater Aircraft Paint Color Question

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crw59@earthlink.net - 03 Aug 2007 17:19 GMT
In the early years, the USN used a lighter color of blue, but when the
Hellcat showed up, it is shown in a much darker blue.

any reasoning behind the change of shade ???   I guess the two tone
scheme was new too..

I was looking at the new trumpeter hellcat review on cybermodeler and
it got me thinking....I;ve always liked the Hellcat, except for the
color it had.

thx - Craig
willshak - 03 Aug 2007 18:03 GMT
on 8/3/2007 12:19 PM crw59@earthlink.net said the following:
> In the early years, the USN used a lighter color of blue, but when the
> Hellcat showed up, it is shown in a much darker blue.
>
> any reasoning behind the change of shade ???   I guess the two tone
> scheme was new too..
>  

Camouflage. The dark blue matched the Pacific Ocean better than light
blue. They brought back the light blue as a transition color between the
dark blue and grey bottom on the Corsair, for one.
> I was looking at the new trumpeter hellcat review on cybermodeler and
> it got me thinking....I;ve always liked the Hellcat, except for the
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>
>  

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Mad-Modeller - 04 Aug 2007 06:24 GMT
> In the early years, the USN used a lighter color of blue, but when the
> Hellcat showed up, it is shown in a much darker blue.
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>
> thx - Craig

Early model Hellcats wore the three-tone camouflage.  Some may even had
the red-outlined stars-&-bars on the fuselage.  I'd have to check on
that though.

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
Claus Gustafsen - 07 Aug 2007 21:53 GMT
The Hellcat in USN colors had three versions AFAIK, all over light
bluegrey - not used operational, then standard three tone darb blue over
intermediate blue with white undersurfaces and finally all over gloss
insignia blue. At the end of the war allied/US air superiority was so clear
that camouflage was not needed, ie. landbased planes in natural metal, while
navy planes needed corrotion protection.

The Hellcat also appeared in FAA camouflage and in bright orange as drones.

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>> In the early years, the USN used a lighter color of blue, but when the
>> Hellcat showed up, it is shown in a much darker blue.
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>
> Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
Pat Flannery - 08 Aug 2007 01:22 GMT
> The Hellcat in USN colors had three versions AFAIK, all over light
> bluegrey - not used operational, then standard three tone darb blue over
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> The Hellcat also appeared in FAA camouflage and in bright orange as drones.
>  

My father served in a B-24 bomber group during the war; when they went
from the flat olive drab top/light gray bottom camouflage to natural
metal, the plane's performance noticeably improved due to the greater
smoothness of the finish and reduction in weight due to being unpainted.
I assume the gloss dark blue paint was chosen for a smooth surface
finish to reduce drag.
The finish would make the aircraft hard to see from above over the ocean
(baring sun glint) but very easy to see from the side or below. this
would seem to indicate that they were concerned with enemy fighters
attacking from above more than surface vessel or ground-based
anti-aircraft fire.
Considering how many ground attack missions the Hellcat flew late in the
war against Japanese island defenses, that's a little strange.

Pat
Moramarth - 04 Aug 2007 22:01 GMT
On 3 Aug, 17:19, "cr...@earthlink.net" <cr...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> In the early years, the USN used a lighter color of blue, but when the
> Hellcat showed up, it is shown in a much darker blue.
>
> any reasoning behind the change of shade ???   I guess the two tone
> scheme was new too..
IIRC, it was to match the colour the carrier decks were then being
painted - that's why the dark colour is also on the underside of that
portion of wings which were visible from above when folded.  The dark
blue decks were a very effective camouflage agains aerial observation
(USN schemes were optimised for this, unlike RN schemes which still
prioritised surface observation), and camouflaging the aircraft was
less important than not compromising the camouflage of the carrier.

> I was looking at the new trumpeter hellcat review on cybermodeler and
> it got me thinking....I;ve always liked the Hellcat, except for the
> color it had.

Regards,
>Craig

Moramarth
tomcervo - 05 Aug 2007 15:44 GMT
> camouflaging the aircraft was less important than not compromising the camouflage of the carrier.

By 1944 the aircraft didn't need to hide, but they did need a coat of
paint to keep out the corrosion.
 
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