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Model Forum / General / Models / August 2007Yet another eBay plug - 1/48 PBY-5, vintage & SSP Revell kits......
Life Like HAWK Missile Battery & more. http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfclZ4QQfsooZ2QQfsopZ2QQsassZtheQ5fplasticQ5fmouseQQs brsrtZd Thanks for looking. Mouse > Life Like HAWK Missile Battery I had one of those; neat kit. Unlike what the box cover shows, the missiles actually do have their fins at the correct ninety degree angles. Pat > > Life Like HAWK Missile Battery > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Pat What I like is the box art showing prototype missiles in a combat situation.... Comnbat missiles would have been a dark (OD?) green color, from what I was told. > What I like is the box art showing prototype missiles in a combat > situation.... > Comnbat missiles would have been a dark (OD?) green color, from what I > was told. > > They go into that here: http://www.missilesofkeywest.com/collectibles.htm Check out the helicopter with the Hawk missiles on its sides BTW. That was a helicopter Cessna was going to mass market but it never panned out: http://www.commercemarketplace.com/home/CollectAir/cessna.html Figure out how much those two missiles would weigh, and what sticking them that far behind the rotor would do to the copter's center of gravity. :-D Pat >> What I like is the box art showing prototype missiles in a combat >> situation.... [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > That was a helicopter Cessna was going to mass market but it never panned > out: Rather like that "affordable" light aircraft we were promised by NASA. > http://www.commercemarketplace.com/home/CollectAir/cessna.html > Figure out how much those two missiles would weigh, and what sticking them > that far behind the rotor would do to the copter's center of gravity. :-D Balance the weight of the engine in the front? (kim) >>> What I like is the box art showing prototype missiles in a combat >>> situation.... [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >(kim) i can't believe i woned and built the first 7 kits and have not one part left. they flew quite well with a certain firework motor....until the fins melted. they were not good black motor flyers if you just stuffed them full and lit them off. > Balance the weight of the engine in the front? > The two missiles would weigh a total of 2,800 pounds. So I don't think the helicopter is even going to get airborne with two aboard. It's somewhat surprising that Cessna didn't get anywhere with that design (although using a internal combustion engine just as helicopter turbines hit the market worked against it). It's a very slick little design and appears to have excellent visibility for the crew. The private helicopter market has remained pretty small till the present day - I imagine because of the amount of training required for pilots to become certified in one. In some ways learning to fly a conventional aircraft and then switching to helicopters is supposed to be harder than just starting out straight into helicopters, as otherwise you are going to have to unlearn a lot of conventional aircraft piloting instincts. Pat (who can rub his head and pat his stomach at the same time, and vice-versa) ;-) >> They go into that here: http://www.missilesofkeywest.com/collectibles.htm >> Check out the helicopter with the Hawk missiles on its sides BTW. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Balance the weight of the engine in the front? But once it delivers the missiles (I'm going to ignore the catalog's implication of it as a "possible rocket launcher") how is it going to get back? I can't picture them trucking 'em back, but I can picture a sign outside the missile plant: "Topsoil -- Free"  Signature-Jack > But once it delivers the missiles (I'm going to ignore the > catalog's implication of it as a "possible rocket launcher") how > is it going to get back? I can't picture them trucking 'em back, > but I can picture a sign outside the missile plant: > "Topsoil -- Free" > The model was a complete fabrication; Adams model company had produced the CH-1 model helicopter originally, and when it became obvious that the Cessna helicopter wasn't going to be made in large numbers, went looking for something to do with the kit; since they had the Hawk missile stuff, they decided to hang the Hawk missiles on the copter and sell it as a adjunct to the Hawk battery kit ( which has a lot of moving parts and was sold as a model you could play with). Hoping kids didn't realize the whole thing was fabricated. They could have at least figured out some way to hang the Hawks under the rotor so the valence would be right. Pat >> But once it delivers the missiles (I'm going to ignore the >> catalog's implication of it as a "possible rocket launcher") how >> is it going to get back? >> > >The model was a complete fabrication; I'm just sayin' I'da bought into that when I was a kid. Even use the "rocket launcher" blurb to wave the Cessna around in one hand while the other hand detaches a Hawk missile and sends it on its way (yes, launching the missiles one at a time!) (Now that I'm older, I look into the implications a bit more, but I'm still a sucker for an outrageous idea.) Signature-Jack > I'm just sayin' I'da bought into that when I was a kid. I was a kid, and I did buy it. They always sent it out in the same shipment of models as the missile launcher set, so the kids would be tempted to buy one at the same time as the other kit. Like I did. :-D > Even use > the "rocket launcher" blurb to wave the Cessna around in one hand [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I'm still a sucker for an outrageous idea.) > What threw me was that I had no idea what the helicopter type was. That's the first time I'd run into the Cessna CH-1. One look at it convinced me that something was very wrong here. If they'd attached the missiles to the landing skids, it might have almost looked reasonable as a missile transport means. Now _this_ is a missile-carrying helicopter: http://avia.russian.ee/helicopters_eng/yak_vvp-6.php Pat >Now _this_ is a missile-carrying helicopter: >http://avia.russian.ee/helicopters_eng/yak_vvp-6.php Looks like something that could have come from _Zany Afternoons_! How about helicopter-carrying rockets? http://www.scaled.com/projects/roton.html Signature-Jack > Looks like something that could have come from _Zany Afternoons_! > > How about helicopter-carrying rockets? > http://www.scaled.com/projects/roton.html > That was a very off-the-wall idea. That's one of those cases where you hear their claims and look out the window to see if a pig is flying by. Wait till you see this...note the use of B-70's for low-level cargo drops: http://www.abo.fi/~mlindroo/SpaceLVs/Slides/sld013.htm That's pretty of-the-wall, isn't it? But what goes around, comes around: http://www.defensetech.org/archives/001815.html Here's the Powerpoint: http://hhboard12.free.fr/USAFSUSTAINBrief.ppt Yes, twelve Marines in a rocketship, ready to go anywhere on Earth. Probably to fight aliens that have dill pickles for heads and acid for blood. Pat |
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