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Dingo - 08 Aug 2007 02:57 GMT
Fellow Modelers,

How can I get a nice finish on my aircraft's jet exhaust, ala Alclad
II, without using an airbrush.  Are there any other manufacturers who
make such realistic finishes?  FWIW, the exhaust will be for a
Tornado.

Thanks in advance.
someone@some.domain - 08 Aug 2007 14:06 GMT
>Fellow Modelers,
>
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>
>Thanks in advance.

i use a brush with master modeler's metalizers. some of them you can even
polisg after dry with a soft cloth. they look really good. the non buff bun
metal is great for a lot of things like guns and landing gear parts.
that might be model master. oops/
Dingo - 10 Aug 2007 15:11 GMT
Someone, Don, Pat, Blue Mule Eddie, Willshak...

THANK YOU all for your responses.

I'll be getting to work on the exhaust this weekend, and I'll be using
the tips and photos you provided.

Thanks again!

>>Fellow Modelers,
>>
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>metal is great for a lot of things like guns and landing gear parts.
>that might be model master. oops/
Don Stauffer in Minnesota - 08 Aug 2007 14:30 GMT
On Aug 7, 8:57 pm, Dingo
<nobb...@i.never.check.this.address.yahoo.com> wrote:
> Fellow Modelers,
>
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>
> Thanks in advance.

I sometimes drybrush metallic finishes.  I use Krylon grey primer on
the part, then drybrush a translucent coating of Testors Steel or some
other metallic color. Makes a burnt metal appearance.
Pat Flannery - 08 Aug 2007 20:38 GMT
> I sometimes drybrush metallic finishes.  I use Krylon grey primer on
> the part, then drybrush a translucent coating of Testors Steel or some
> other metallic color. Makes a burnt metal appearance.
>  

Washes work will to bring out the detail of the nozzle petals also.

Pat
bluumule - 08 Aug 2007 15:07 GMT
I believe from the pictures I seen of the Tornado that their exhaust
tend to be dark and sooty. A base of black then apply some Steel SnJ
Polishing Powder would make them pop and look realistic. Apply the
powder lightly with a foam makeup applicator or a stiff bristled paint
brush.
Pat Flannery - 08 Aug 2007 20:47 GMT
> I believe from the pictures I seen of the Tornado that their exhaust
> tend to be dark and sooty. A base of black then apply some Steel SnJ
> Polishing Powder would make them pop and look realistic. Apply the
> powder lightly with a foam makeup applicator or a stiff bristled paint
> brush.
>  

Here's some great color close-ups of the exhaust nozzles of a Tornado:
http://www.b-domke.de/AviationImages/Tornado/Images/3545.jpg
http://www.b-domke.de/AviationImages/Tornado/Images/0454.jpg
http://www.b-domke.de/AviationImages/Tornado/Images/1785.jpg
http://www.b-domke.de/AviationImages/Tornado/Images/3550.jpg

Pat
Eddie Bermuda - 09 Aug 2007 16:07 GMT
The orifice is dark and sooty, but the thrust reverse buckets are a dark
steel kind of colour. Quite matt but with a sheen to them.  Satin, almost.

It's these that cause the dirty fin that's characteristic of a Tonka.

EB

>> I believe from the pictures I seen of the Tornado that their exhaust
>> tend to be dark and sooty. A base of black then apply some Steel SnJ
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>
> Pat
willshak - 09 Aug 2007 16:38 GMT
on 8/9/2007 11:07 AM Eddie Bermuda said the following:
> The orifice is dark and sooty, but the thrust reverse buckets are a
> dark steel kind of colour. Quite matt but with a sheen to them.  
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>
> EB

I have a bottle of Testors Model Master Acryl called Jet Exhaust #4676.
I haven't used it yet, but it looks like a metallic faded khaki.

>>> I believe from the pictures I seen of the Tornado that their exhaust
>>> tend to be dark and sooty. A base of black then apply some Steel SnJ
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>>
>> Pat

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Pat Flannery - 09 Aug 2007 20:22 GMT
> I have a bottle of Testors Model Master Acryl called Jet Exhaust
> #4676. I haven't used it yet, but it looks like a metallic faded khaki.

That's sounds pretty close to the color of most jet nozzles I've seen
close up, it might be what stainless steel or titanium looks like after
it's been discolored by heat. Occasionally you can get bright metallic
blues and violets also.

Pat
bluumule - 10 Aug 2007 02:59 GMT
Here's a picture of the tailpipe of an F-18. It has white fuel spray
bars.
http://hawkeyeshobbies.com/gallery1/AirVenture2007/turbine
Pat Flannery - 09 Aug 2007 20:10 GMT
> The orifice is dark and sooty, but the thrust reverse buckets are a
> dark steel kind of colour. Quite matt but with a sheen to them.  
> Satin, almost.

To me, the rings at the base of the nozzle with the bumps around their
periphery look almost like they are made of cast metal. The exposed
gears between the tailpipes are interesting.
Here's a shot straight up the tailpipe:
http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/AWA1/001-100/walk046_Tornado/part1_German_
Tornado/images_Burkhard_Domke/2-31.jpg

All the photos are here:
http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/AWA1/001-100/walk046_Tornado/part1_German_
Tornado/walk046a.htm

http://www.b-domke.de/AviationImages/Tornado.html

Pat
 
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