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Model Forum / General / Models / August 2007Reissued Hawk Space Models
On a lark, I contacted the resurrected Hawk model company, and asked if they had any plans to reissue their kits of the Convair Atlas orbiting space station and the Vanguard satellite. They said if they can locate the molds _they do_ intend to reissue them. That would be a real blast from the past! :-) Pat >On a lark, I contacted the resurrected Hawk model company, and asked if >they had any plans to reissue their kits of the Convair Atlas orbiting [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Pat yee-f.cking-haaa! > On a lark, I contacted the resurrected Hawk model company, and asked if > they had any plans to reissue their kits of the Convair Atlas orbiting [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Pat That would be cool. And if I remember right, one of the cooler models I built was their Lockheed T-33 trainer. While T-33s were not very exciting in of themselves, that was about the time I began to notice girls. Ah the fantasies a 7th grader could have of whisking the hottest 9th grader in the jr. high school off in his private T-33 to the Bahamas for . . . John > > On a lark, I contacted the resurrected Hawk model company, and asked if > > they had any plans to reissue their kits of the Convair Atlas orbiting [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > John That one was available in an aluminized version- very nice. I had just washed out of AF pilot training at the time, and the Squadron commander had a personal T-33 that was kept very highly polished which the Hawk kit simulated nicely. > That one was available in an aluminized version- very nice. I had just > washed out of AF pilot training at the time, and the Squadron > commander had a personal T-33 that was kept very highly polished which > the Hawk kit simulated nicely. > By the time they got around to the later releases in their series of their chromed kits they had etched some of the panels in the mold so that they had a two-toned appearance as far as the brightness of the plating went; this made for a very realistic effect. Pat > That one was available in an aluminized version- very nice. I had just > washed out of AF pilot training at the time, and the Squadron > commander had a personal T-33 that was kept very highly polished which > the Hawk kit simulated nicely. > Those ended up being very popular as "squadron hack" aircraft also, due to the pleasant flying characteristics and easy maintenance. They used to have one down at the Fargo, ND ANG base. Pat > > That one was available in an aluminized version- very nice. I had just > > washed out of AF pilot training at the time, and the Squadron [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Pat When I was working for the AF at Hamilton AFB the 84th FIS had a T-33 hack. Well maintained if a bit worn inside. I was able to fly her a dozen times as desk-bound pilots had to keep their flying time up to date. I was never able to talk my way into time in the squadron F-106B, though. Spent the last two days workng on and displayng the Pacific Coast Air Museum T-33. This one spent forty years in desert storage before we obtained it. We completed the canopy jack installment last week. Before that we used muscle and a long piece of white PVC pipe, not very attractive. It still needs tweaking. Ended up using a pair of vice grips to crank the canopy down as the socket wrench we were using stripped out. Next comes the battery so that we won't wear out the hand crank. When she's done the paint job shall be for the 84th FIS T-33 that I was assigned to. The red/white/blue lightning stripes on the tail and wingtip tanks are quite striking. Two .50s are planned for the nose and we are restoring an original underbelly cargo pod. We have an engine, but it's currently used for the engine display at the museum. I have the Heller and Hasegawa T-33s and I'm accumulating all of the aftermarket details. Have the Scalemaster F-106 decals for the tail emblems and maybe the lightning bolts, although I'll probably paint the latter. Anybody have comments on the kits? I tend to like the Heller kit better. Tom > When I was working for the AF at Hamilton AFB the 84th FIS had a T-33 > hack. Well maintained if a bit worn inside. I was able to fly her a > dozen times as desk-bound pilots had to keep their flying time up to > date. I was never able to talk my way into time in the squadron > F-106B, though. > That was supposed to be a real rocketship of a fighter. I was at an airshow where a F-106 cracked the sound barrier in a near vertical climb. You should have seen the fireball coming out of that thing's afterburner. =-O Pat > That would be cool. And if I remember right, one of the cooler models > I built was their Lockheed T-33 trainer. While T-33s were not very [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > It would be interesting if they reissued their chromed aircraft models; that F-104 and P-47 in particular were very striking. Pat > > That would be cool. And if I remember right, one of the cooler models > > I built was their Lockheed T-33 trainer. While T-33s were not very [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Pat That old Hawk F-104 was good for it's day, but Monogram issued a nice one back in the 80s and Hasegawa released a Zipper in the late 90s that is a real beauty. Hawk's old T-33 is real sweet though except fot the interior. As far I know, the molds for the old Hawk airplanes are owned by Testors. In my local hobby shop I noticed that the old Hawk "Weirdos" line was reissued by the new Hawk model company. I wonder what will happen to the molds that Testors owns. I'd love to see the MOL issued once again! > > > That would be cool. And if I remember right, one of the cooler models > > > I built was their Lockheed T-33 trainer. While T-33s were not very [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > wonder what will happen to the molds that Testors owns. I'd love to > see the MOL issued once again! Last week the Graf Zeppelin was in as well. I'm toying with getting it, but the size and the price are two reasons that I haven't yet. > Last week the Graf Zeppelin was in as well. I'm toying with getting > it, but the size and the price are two reasons that I haven't yet. > It's supposed to have a detailed interior on the control car-passenger area. It would be a ball to do a cutaway version of the kit by leaving half the hull off, though the rigging of the framework could drive you nuts. Here's an oddball kit - the internal framework of the Graf Zeppelin in metal: http://www.spitcrazy.com/Zeppelin.jpg That's from here: http://www.spitcrazy.com/Aerobase.htm One interesting feature of the Graf Zeppelin was where the fuel for its engines came from - instead of being fueled by gasoline or Diesel fuel, they were fueled by "Blau gas" (similar to propane) stored in separate gas cells under the hydrogen cells: http://www.ciderpresspottery.com/ZLA/greatzeps/german/GrafZeppelin.html Pat > wonder what will happen to the molds that Testors owns. I'd love to > see the MOL issued once again! You and me both, I want two of them in fact. > That old Hawk F-104 Glaze my nipples and call me Shirley, when I first saw the subject line, I was thinking of Space:1999... > Glaze my nipples and call me Shirley, when I first saw the subject line, I > was thinking of Space:1999... > That was a very neat looking space fighter; I had some of those from MPC that I bought for parts at our local Woolworth Store's model sale table for around $1.00 each, without realizing it was going to become a rare kit. The only thing I never liked on the Eagle were the lower windows on the command section. Pat >> Glaze my nipples and call me Shirley, when I first saw the subject line, >> I was thinking of Space:1999... [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > The only thing I never liked on the Eagle were the lower windows on the > command section. THey made no sense at all. Now, they could have represented modular sensors or weapons pods, if in fact any were in place. The Hawk was clearly the best weapon ever derived from a civilian craft. While it clearly reflected its origins, it was not simply an Eagle with a weapon strapped on it. I would expect more missiles, though. The Eagle is also one of the better designed sci fi crafts, although it was clearly used in ways that it wasn't designed for. It would not make a terribly good atmospheric craft. Just *try* entering an atmosphere at any significant velocity without melting something Terribly Important in that design. Cargo transport, people transport, military transport, science, medical, weapon and utility modules, none of which require much modification of the basic craft to use- the Eagle is a darned good spacecraft. Space:1999- a completely absurd premise that was poorly handled, but they got a lot of the background stuff right. September 13 is right around the corner! > THey made no sense at all. Now, they could have represented modular sensors > or weapons pods, if in fact any were in place. > They were supposed to have sensors of some sort in them; what it really needed were downward facing windows for landing, like a helicopter. > The Hawk was clearly the best weapon ever derived from a civilian craft. > While it clearly reflected its origins, it was not simply an Eagle with a > weapon strapped on it. I would expect more missiles, though. > The trick is of course to use one big missile: http://www.tnthobbies.force9.co.uk/UFOInterceptorCutaway.jpg I would have expected a lot more fuel tankage on a Eagle, particularly for the rear engines. But to HELL with that! It's purple-haired lady time!: http://ufoseries.com/newPhotos/freemanAndEllis.jpg What exactly is that rectangular thing on her belt with the stylized human figure on it? The SHADO issued lunar eye make-up kit? And who came up with the lace-up silver panties...Frederick's of Hadley Rill? > The Eagle is also one of the better designed sci fi crafts, although it was > clearly used in ways that it wasn't designed for. It would not make a [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > basic craft to use- the Eagle is a darned good spacecraft. > The spacecraft that owes a lot to the Eagle is the Deep Space 9 runabout; the concept is very similar - various mission pods slung under a carrying frame with engines and a crew cabin on it. > Space:1999- a completely absurd premise that was poorly handled, And no Purple-Haired Ladies, neither. SHADO looked like Hugh Hefner was their chief recruiting officer; is she wearing _anything_ under her fishnet top?: http://ufoseries.com/newPhotos/skyOp.jpg They could have squeezed out at least one more season of "Space1999" with big-haired babes running all over the place, particularly if an alien clothing-eating microorganism had accidentally been brought to Moonbase Alpha. This would be no more unlikely than most of their storylines. Boffo Big-Haired Babes = Boffo British Broadcast Business! Where would the new Doctor Who have been without Billie Piper?: http://www.findaceleb.com/girls/p/piper-billie/000023.jpg > but they > got a lot of the background stuff right. Favorite moment... Commander Koenig is offered the gold-filled egg of a very rare bird by an alien...if they weren't taking the bird's eggs and filling them with gold, maybe they wouldn't be so rare... Aliens...go figure. :-) Pat > I wonder what will happen to the molds that Testors owns. I'd love to > see the MOL issued once again! > It would finally give me the opportunity to finish one well, unlike the around three I had as a kid. For any of the youngsters around here who don't know what we are talking about, it's this kit: http://fantastic-plastic.com/CONVAIR%20ATLAS%20MOL%20PAGE.htm It was a serous proposal by old Peenemunde scientist Krafft Ehricke to turn Convair's Atlas ICBM into a space station. This could be where the early Skylab idea of turning the interior of a propellant tank into living quarters once the propellants were expended on the way to orbit (the "wetlab" concept) came from. The lifting body ferry ships come from the era when no one realized just how much manned aerodynamic RV's were going to weigh. Two were to be launched belly-to-belly on a Altas-Centaur rocket. Pat (Pat Flannery) wrote: '' On a lark, I contacted the resurrected Hawk model company, and asked if they had any plans to reissue their kits of the Convair Atlas orbiting space station and the Vanguard satellite. They said if they can locate the molds _they do_ intend to reissue them. That would be a real blast from the past! :-) '' Does anybody here know when these Kits just might be back on the shelves at the local hobby store so we could get a few. ... cyberborg .......... ,, > '' On a lark, I contacted the resurrected Hawk model company, and asked > if they had any plans to reissue their kits of the Convair Atlas [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > ,, I think the part of the sentence "if they can locate the molds" probably means no time soon > > '' On a lark, I contacted the resurrected Hawk model company, and asked > > if they had any plans to reissue their kits of the Convair Atlas [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > I think the part of the sentence "if they can locate the molds" > probably means no time soon >From what I know of this is if you have a warehouse full of molds that have to be inventoried, it could be in a few weeks, if the molds are intact and usable or much, much longer if a portion are missing or in the condition of some of the old Strombecker molds that Nick Argento bought for Glencoe. > > > '' On a lark, I contacted the resurrected Hawk model company, and asked > > > if they had any plans to reissue their kits of the Convair Atlas [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > the condition of some of the old Strombecker molds that Nick Argento > bought for Glencoe. It also depends on which end of the warehouse you start from. They might be in the second bay down or at the far end of the building. Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. > It also depends on which end of the warehouse you start from. They > might be in the second bay down or at the far end of the building. > I also contacted Lindberg about the giant 1/8th scale dragster kit they are reissuing. I had a ball building one of these as a kid. Apparently about the only change is the bodies (there were two separate ones in the original kit, so you could do it front or rear engined IIRC) on the reissue are now going to be in white, rather than the red and green metal flake ones of the original. They stated this was requested by modelers to make them easier to paint in whatever colors they chose. Pat >> It also depends on which end of the warehouse you start from. They >> might be in the second bay down or at the far end of the building. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >Pat what email did you use for them? i would like to ask them some stuff, too. thanks. > >From what I know of this is if you have a warehouse full of molds that > have to be inventoried, it could be in a few weeks, if the molds are > intact and usable or much, much longer if a portion are missing or in > the condition of some of the old Strombecker molds that Nick Argento > bought for Glencoe. > That Disney space station model needed a lot of sanding to get smooth; it had obviously suffered corrosion. Pat > Does anybody here know when these Kits just might be back on the shelves > at the local hobby store so we could get a few. > > Since they are still looking for the molds, it will probably be a while. Pat |
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