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Model Forum / General / Models / October 2007How many kits at once?
I've gotten into the practice of building a model until it was around 90% finished, and then starting something new. Most of the time it is in the final stages, and then one small aspect just isn't "perfect" , so I move on. Looking at the bench, there are around five kits in the same status (1/48th Tamiya A1 Skyraider- slightly overdid the exhaust staining, Tamiya PZK III- need to finish Fruil tracks. DML Elefant, zimmerit not just right, etc) So, how do you get over this- it must be common. After all, it's just a hobby, but it would be nice to finish one once in a while. I can't speak for anyone else but I usually have 3 kits going at one time. I work on each at the same pace switching between them when they need time to paint / dry, etc. I also break a kit down to sub assemblies rather than follow the instructions to the letter. I don't start another kit until all 3 are done. That's not to say I finish every project. Some hit the trash can or the parts box at different stages along the way if I'm not happy with the kit or the results. I figure if I'm not motivated to finish something then why keep it at all. For me, I found having lots of partial finished kits is frustrating and kills my enthusiasm. >I've gotten into the practice of building a model until it was around 90% >finished, and then starting something new. Most of the time it is in the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >So, how do you get over this- it must be common. After all, it's just a >hobby, but it would be nice to finish one once in a while. i work on something else and after a bit i go back. it it's time, i'll finish the first, if not i do something else and try later. eventually it gets done. > I've gotten into the practice of building a model until it was around 90% > finished, and then starting something new. Most of the time it is in the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > So, how do you get over this- it must be common. After all, it's just a > hobby, but it would be nice to finish one once in a while. Since I build wooden ships as well as all genre of plastic, plus some scratch cars, I have LOTs of unfinished projects. I think there are around ten on the shelves currently. All of the ships are multi-year projects that I rotate between. > > I've gotten into the practice of building a model until it was around 90% > > finished, and then starting something new. Most of the time it is in the [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > around ten on the shelves currently. All of the ships are multi-year > projects that I rotate between. Geez, I wish that was the extent of my backlog. I have shelves full of things I started and lost interest in along the way. I still want to get them finished but I have to work up the enthusiasm. One good thing about car models - their boxes are big enough to hide the unfinished projects in. ;) Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. > > > I've gotten into the practice of building a model until it was around 90% > > > finished, and then starting something new. Most of the time it is in the [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. But my scratch car projects are 1:8 scale, so the boxes for those are pretty good size! > Since I build wooden ships as well as all genre of plastic > But you've got the perfect incentive to finish them; you stick them down in the basement for too long and the termites are going to arrive. "Basswood?" "Tastes more like spruce to me." "Ah, the good ol' days...remember oak?" "I'm still trying to forget balsa." "It was low calorie." "Yup, that it was...how about pine?" "f.ck pine, and the horse it rode in on." ;-) Pat on 10/7/2007 11:38 AM Viperdoc said the following: > I've gotten into the practice of building a model until it was around 90% > finished, and then starting something new. Most of the time it is in the > final stages, and then one small aspect just isn't "perfect" , so I move on. > Been there, done that. > Looking at the bench, there are around five kits in the same status (1/48th > Tamiya A1 Skyraider- slightly overdid the exhaust staining, Tamiya PZK III- > need to finish Fruil tracks. DML Elefant, zimmerit not just right, etc) > I have a lot of started-but-unfinished models dating back 20 years. For me, it seems like I got kinda bored with the making during the construction and looked over at the stash for another new exciting challenge (which may be exciting only for a short while too). > So, how do you get over this- it must be common. After all, it's just a > hobby, but it would be nice to finish one once in a while. Only buy one kit at a time, and don't buy another until the first one is finished. OK, so I just bought an M18 Hellcat (I recently saw a Hellcat restoration project on one of the military channels) while I still had some other unfinished tanks. :-)  SignatureBill In Hamptonburgh, NY To email, remove the double zeroes after @ > Only buy one kit at a time, and don't buy another until the first one > is finished. Yeh. Right. Good luck with that... ;-) SignatureEnzo I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. > > Only buy one kit at a time, and don't buy another until the first one > > is finished. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. I passed that point at light speed back around 1969. Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. > Only buy one kit at a time, and don't buy another until the first one > is finished. We all found this out the hard way, didn't we? :-D Pat > I've gotten into the practice of building a model until it was around > 90% finished, and then starting something new. Most of the time it is [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > So, how do you get over this- it must be common. After all, it's just > a hobby, but it would be nice to finish one once in a while. I re-learned a lesson a few years ago. At one point I had no less than five 1/48 Bf109s on the go at the same time and I became incredibly jaded. I now allow myself no more than three kits at any one time. The ideal situation is to work on them all as a batch and not start any more until all three are finished (but see below). It doesn't always work out that way and sometimes I'll start another kit while I have two in various stages of completion. In order to prevent myself getting jaded, I ensure that there are never more that two of the same aircraft type in progress at the same time - and they are *never* in similar colour schemes. So, If I have two F-4s on the workbench together, they will be in totally different schemes, but an F-4C and an A-7D in the SEA scheme would be acceptable. Having said that, I find that I absolutely *abhor* masking and spraying canopies! Therefore, I tend to consider a model "complete-ish" when everything but the canopy is completed. I will tell myself that I'll get round to doing the canopy when I have the enthusiasm for it... which is very rare indeed. Therefore, it means that I get a backlog of models say on my shelves which are complete but for the canopy. Up until the middle of last week I had (in 1/48) three Spitfires, (in 1/72) three F-4s, an F-104, a Draken and an F-16, all without canopies, with another F-4 crossing my workbench that will soon require a canopy of its own. So... I've finally bitten the bullet and really forced myself to get those canopies done. As of this moment, the F-104, Draken and F-16 are still lacking their canopies. All the rest are finally complete. I'll do the final three over the next week, which should see me having no (aircraft) models whatsoever on my workbench by Saturday. At that point I shall start a 1/48 Spitfire XII, using the Hasegawa IX and the Aeroclub conversion kit. This time, I swear that I shall mask the canopy while I'm doing the cockpit and am still in the first flush of enthusiasm... ;-) SignatureEnzo I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. on 10/7/2007 12:42 PM Enzo Matrix said the following: > >> I've gotten into the practice of building a model until it was around [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > canopies! Therefore, I tend to consider a model "complete-ish" when > everything but the canopy is completed. Have you ever tried using thin strips of modeler's masking tape? Not for masking, but for the frames themselves. Similar to using it for scale pilot seat belts. Pre-paint the tape and then stick it on the frames, trimming where necessary. It may even be more to scale if you sand off the plastic frame and then glue the tape on. > I will tell myself that I'll get > round to doing the canopy when I have the enthusiasm for it... which is very [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > SignatureBill In Hamptonburgh, NY To email, remove the double zeroes after @ >> I've gotten into the practice of building a model until it was around >> 90% finished, and then starting something new. Most of the time it is [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] >while I'm doing the cockpit and am still in the first flush of enthusiasm... >;-) we are crossing the digits for you. > I've gotten into the practice of building a model until it was around 90% > finished, and then starting something new. Most of the time it is in the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > So, how do you get over this- it must be common. After all, it's just a > hobby, but it would be nice to finish one once in a while. As I count, I currently have six kits in some state of buildup, and two in for repairs, on my bench. I think once this sort of thing starts, you're cooked... Signature- Rufus >> I've gotten into the practice of building a model until it was around 90% >> finished, and then starting something new. Most of the time it is in the [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >in for repairs, on my bench. I think once this sort of thing starts, >you're cooked... My rub is theres too many ''blocks'' in the building process,I want to get going on them.BUT,> i live in apaertment>have an airbrush & compressor,but no decent ventilatiom>1 model is assembled w/clear parts for light up,cant paint over it,the backroom I want to use is smal & I dont want choke out. > >> I've gotten into the practice of building a model until it was around 90% > >> finished, and then starting something new. Most of the time it is in the [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > parts for light up,cant paint over it,the backroom I want to use is > smal & I dont want choke out. I always have at least one kit going that doesn't require major painting. If the others bog down, I turn to this to keep myself moving. I have one of those visible hemi engine kits in progress right now. It's very different from my other 2 projects and requires no paint not to mention that it is an interesting / educational build. >> I've gotten into the practice of building a model until it was around 90% >> finished, and then starting something new. Most of the time it is in the [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >in for repairs, on my bench. I think once this sort of thing starts, >you're cooked... i have a pre build, build abandoned, rescued, repair some day and a abandom all hope maybe pile. then there are the w.i.p shelves. (works in progress.) On Oct 7, 5:17 pm, some...@some.domain wrote: > >> I've gotten into the practice of building a model until it was around 90% > >> finished, and then starting something new. Most of the time it is in the [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > i have a pre build, build abandoned, rescued, repair some day and a abandom > all hope maybe pile. then there are the w.i.p shelves. (works in progress.) I have 30-40+ kits in various stages. Ready for paint - None, lost parts - lots of 'em. Did he say he wanted to finish a kit? Let's bring back the days when the glue fumes made the hobby so much more fun..... Craig > As I count, I currently have six kits in some state of buildup, and > two in for repairs, on my bench. I think once this sort of thing > starts, you're cooked... No, through a nine step program you can break the addiction to unbuilt models. First, you must recognize a power greater than you...this being your bank account. Second, you must separate yourself from the "enabler" of your addiction...this being your "friend", the pusher who owns the local hobby shop. Third, as hard as it is, you must sever all social interactions with fellow addicts...your local IPMS chapter. Fourth, you must strive to avoid the use of "code language" in day-to-day conversation. They aren't "trees", they are "big plants", or "overgrown bushes". It's not "flash", it's "very bright'. Fifth, each day when you awake, reassert your self respect: "My name is Rufus; and I'm going to finish all the models I have before I buy even one more! I'm that good of a modeler...I'm that Great of a modeler, and nothing and no one is ever going to take that from me!" Sixth, you must realize the feelings of the kits that you only partially built, and see THEIR side of things... are you the sort of person who they dreamed of owning them when they came out of the molds? What would you have thought if you had been working on them one night and having a great time, only to find out they had left by the next morning because they had lost interest in you? Seventh, you must realize that many children go to sleep in the third world without one model to build during their entire day.... or dare I say it...entire life? They dream of what you are capable of having, and yet have cast aside in your decadent boredom... the pain of the flash under the fingernails, the "snap" of a part coming free from its overgrown bush, the inability to get the decals straight no matter what they try... Eighth, The basic Freudian concept of "Anal Retentive" should serve as a warning... do you want to actually to build these models or just stack them on your shelf, to show others that you have more more half-built models than anyone else you know, and even though you are dysfunctional, you have decided in your own mind you shall show your fellow addicts that you are the greatest of all the dysfunctional model non-completers? The pathos of such a situation is obvious. In the land of the blind the one-eyed man may be king, but in the land of modelers the one-eyed man is going to have one hell of a time dealing with small photoetched parts, due to his lack of stereoscopic vision. Ninth, from the viewpoint of the basic libido, the tendency to leave things unfinished can be seen as an expression of of inability to successfully complete the sexual act itself. Hasn't every modeler run into a really hot babe (RHB) at a model show and immediately asked himself: "What the hell is _she_ doing here? Is she lost, or is there something _wrong_ with her?", then immediately looked around for drooling two-year-olds crawling around under the display tables, and in danger of destroying everything as they crawl towards "momma"? But the fox isn't crazy; she has cunningly searched out a model show to find a suitable mate...someone who has way too much time on his hands, is way too wealthy, way too socially isolated, and just bored enough that building a model of every deployed subtype of the Sherman tank seems like a good way to spend his time. She bats her eyes at this guy, and she's going to get a three course dinner. But she has made a major miscalculation in this regard, for one modeler has been waiting like a priapic goat ready to pounce: "Well, yes...when it comes right down to it it was rather difficult to do a horizontal volute suspension Sherman with the cast front transmission housing and Calliope rocket launcher, and I strived LONG and HARD to finish it, knowing that it would take many HARD NIGHTS, to accomplish what SHE DESERVED. She was my dream, and I knew that only the BEST would SATISFY her...so I started out slowly...then building, bit-by-bit I worked...until she and I were COMPLETELY FINISHED at the same exact moment. It took NEW and EXOTIC TECHNIQUES to accomplish this, but I like to think I'm not anything if not IMAGINATIVE." Kiss it goodbye, Mr. Can't Finish It. She'll wake up in the morning with a note on her pillow: "That was good, but frankly I was expecting better fit of the parts considering the price." ;-) Pat >> As I count, I currently have six kits in some state of buildup, and >> two in for repairs, on my bench. I think once this sort of thing [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > First, you must recognize a power greater than you...this being your > bank account. ...my skills at managing money are nationally recognized. Any funds that don't buy plastic only go to buy guitars. And I STILL manage to both maintain zero debt AND save money. > Second, you must separate yourself from the "enabler" of your > addiction...this being your "friend", the pusher who owns the local > hobby shop. ...what local hobby shop? I'd have to stop my mail delivery and discontinue my ISP. > Third, as hard as it is, you must sever all social interactions with > fellow addicts...your local IPMS > chapter. Almost done - relinquished my membership to get out of being "president for life" of my chapter. Only a loose group of 3-5 hardcore addicts are hanging on. > Fourth, you must strive to avoid the use of "code language" in > day-to-day conversation. They aren't "trees", they are "big plants", or > "overgrown bushes". It's not "flash", it's "very bright'. That's really easy in the middle of the Mojave...we got no trees (and there's a girl behind every one) - check! > Fifth, each day when you awake, reassert your self respect: "My name is > Rufus; and I'm going to finish all the models I have before I buy even > one more! I'm that good of a modeler...I'm that Great of a modeler, and > nothing and no one is ever going to take that from me!" ...especially if I keep buying kits. They won't be able to fit them all in the van. > Sixth, you must realize the feelings of the kits that you only partially > built, and see THEIR side of things... are you the sort of person who > they dreamed of owning them when they came out of the molds? What would > you have thought if you had been working on them one night and having a > great time, only to find out they had left by the next morning because > they had lost interest in you? I'm and insensitive, conservative, type A personality...I'd never buy that one...kits also serve, that sit and wait. > Seventh, you must realize that many children go to sleep in the third > world without one model to build during their entire day.... or dare I [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > overgrown bush, the inability to get the decals straight no matter what > they try... ...now I am getting a bit misty-eyed. > Eighth, The basic Freudian concept of "Anal Retentive" should serve as a > warning... do you want to actually to build these models or just stack [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > is going to have one hell of a time dealing with small photoetched > parts, due to his lack of stereoscopic vision. Braggin' rights are braggin' rights...we used to have a contest where that was the prize - a certificate for bragging rights, good for one years...now I'm beginning to see how this thing feeds on itself... > Ninth, from the viewpoint of the basic libido, the tendency to leave > things unfinished can be seen as an expression of of inability to [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Pat Ref: see what I said about "a girl behind every tree", above...damn right I ain't completin' any sexual acts... Signature- Rufus > >> As I count, I currently have six kits in some state of buildup, and > >> two in for repairs, on my bench. I think once this sort of thing [quoted text clipped - 112 lines] > -- > - Rufus Am I dull! Here I thought you were commenting on the hirsute qualities of the local womenfolk. Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. >>>> As I count, I currently have six kits in some state of buildup, and >>>> two in for repairs, on my bench. I think once this sort of thing [quoted text clipped - 108 lines] > > Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. ...they may not be hairy (actually, some of them may be...), but I did develop a system for rating them by altitude - theory being that thinner air allows a behind to expand more rapidly and to a greater extent. Our valley floor is at about 2300 feet...and I prefer to shop at sea level. Signature- Rufus > ...they may not be hairy (actually, some of them may be...), but I did > develop a system for rating them by altitude - theory being that > thinner > air allows a behind to expand more rapidly and to a greater extent. > Our valley floor is at about 2300 feet...and I prefer to shop at sea > level. - Rufus Here in the Piedmont zone we're somewhat lower. Empirical evidence in this neighbourhood suggests your theory has flaws. I've been wondering if there was some strange program going on that made multiple copies of 30-something, wide, blonde females as there seems to be a concentration of them locally. Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. >> ...they may not be hairy (actually, some of them may be...), but I did >> develop a system for rating them by altitude - theory being that > thinner [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. the figures will be skewed unless you remove the bleach jobs. which means about 98% of the sampling. >> ...they may not be hairy (actually, some of them may be...), but I did >> develop a system for rating them by altitude - theory being that > thinner [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. ...A-HA...that's why my sample set skips from 18 to over 45. Signature- Rufus : Looking at the bench, there are around five kits in the same status (1/48th : Tamiya A1 Skyraider- slightly overdid the exhaust staining, Tamiya PZK III- : need to finish Fruil tracks. DML Elefant, zimmerit not just right, etc) A club member has 52 (yes, fifty two) tanks waiting for paint. Bruce Signature------------------------------------------------------------------------ "I like bad!" Bruce Burden Austin, TX. - Thuganlitha The Power and the Prophet Robert Don Hughes > I've gotten into the practice of building a model until it was around 90% > finished, and then starting something new. Most of the time it is in the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > So, how do you get over this- it must be common. After all, it's just a > hobby, but it would be nice to finish one once in a while. I probably topped out at around ten half-finished model kits at once back when I was around 17. The trick is to only build one at a time, and finish it up before buying the next. I still have dreams about going down the basement at the house where I used to live...and finding all those half-finished kits waiting, particularly the 1/32 scale Revell Mosquito. The really fun dream is of course being in a alternate universe where I end up going to a hobby shop that has models that never existed in ours...like the 1/200 scale submarine models that Revell did of things like the Soviet Golf class, Skipjack, and Surcouf; or the complete V-1 launch site in HO scale with all the buildings, launch ramp, vehicles, and crew, by Arii. The reissue of the 1950s Monogram kit of all the U.S. bombers in 1/144 scale from the MB-1 to the the B-47 was a ball to see also. You should have seen the size of that decal sheet...and the big shiny black base with all the little gold plated name plates that go under them as they were held over it by the curved tempered steel wires. The fact that all the ones from the B-17G onwards were chrome-plated was the final perfect touch.* Got to figure out a way to get over to that universe. You could sell these SOBs for a fortune on eBay! ;-) * You know, if someone were to actually turn out a kit like that, you could sell that thing. A complete set of the X-planes in 1/144 scale with a display base would also be a very salable item. I'm surprised someone hasn't tried that in resin. Pat > > I've gotten into the practice of building a model until it was around 90% > > finished, and then starting something new. Most of the time it is in the [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > Pat Someone has done 6 of the X-planes in plastic in 1/144th. I have the X-1,-3,-4,-5,-15 and -24. I'd seriously like to get my hands on a second X-1 for a conversion to a -1A. Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. jninomi@NOattglobalSPAMMS.net (Viperdoc) wrote in <4708f824$0$32486$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>: >Looking at the bench, there are around five kits in the same status >(1/48th Tamiya A1 Skyraider- slightly overdid the exhaust staining, >Tamiya PZK III- need to finish Fruil tracks. DML Elefant, zimmerit not >just right, etc) If a kit is that close, I usually declare victory and move on. Then again, I'm not out to win contests, just to have fun building. I've got about 20 in various stages at the moment. When the pile gets too big, I take a week or so to finish a few kits. SignatureHarro de Jong remove the extra Xs from xmsnet to mail me Hi, I should say, I expirience the same problem. So, I decided to stop buying new kits, except of the kit, that are hard to find. For example, it`s very difficult to purchase a Opel Blitz vehicle at the moment. Now I have plenty of soldiers, that are not painted. Some parts of this staff are 50-70 percent painted. My idea, how can you deal with it: when you are going to build, a Hanomag for example, you can buy a 3-in-1 kit from Dragon and Tamiya one. Two kits can supplement each other. Tamiya Hanomag has not too much details. Dragon one has too many. > I've gotten into the practice of building a model until it was around 90% > finished, and then starting something new. Most of the time it is in the [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > So, how do you get over this- it must be common. After all, it's just a > hobby, but it would be nice to finish one once in a while. Twenty-nine started at the moment. Active (work on almost every day, even if only for a few mnutes): Two Yakovlev Yak-11 conversons, Payen Pa.22, Ames AD-1, Long Midget Mustang. Occasional (some work once per month or so): Aerospatiale Alouette III, Nord 262, Piasecki HUP, Polikarpov I-15. Rescued (Either started by someone else or completed but somewhat disassembled, occasional work ): BAC/Aerospatiale Concorde, Etrich Taube, Fokker Dr.I, North AmercanP-51D, Supermarine S.4. After market parts & decals being obtained (Higher up on the build list): Avia S.199, Curtiss P-40N, Letov S.328, Lockheed T-33, Vickers Wellington. Started more than twenty years ago but still consdered as n the works: Douglas XCG-17, Fieseler V-1, SAAB Draken. Not started but in the build pile as opposed to the 2000+ garage storage: Albatros D.V, Curtiss YP-37, Disney Moon Rocket, Fieseler V-1, Mignet Pou du Ciel, Republic Sea Bee, Yakovlev UT-1. Master for MAI kit:Ryan Brougham. Other than 1/72 scale: Short 360, Liberty Ship. Models for frends/cutomers: Five WWI/Revolution Russian vignettes and small doramas. Completed in the last couple of years: Northrop GB-1, PKZ-2, WWII Russian Glider/Truck/Wagon diorama, three WWI/Revolution Russian vignettes/small dioramas. Rescued and repaired: Morane-Saulnier MS. 230, Macchi MC.202, Macchi MC.205. I find myself building more and buying less over the last couple of years. More spent on paints, decals and after market parts to complete started projects. Tom > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > - Show quoted text - I did try to actually build a kit without purchasing any brass, tracks, interior, etc. I made myself a challenge to do the best job weathering, rather than getting bogged down in little bits. Of course, I still bought all the brass and two of each kit so I could do it "right" in a second version, but these never got done. Buying and building only one kit at a time? Get real. I happen to like 1/35 armor, as well as 1/48 and 1/32 aircraft. Once I own every one of these, and all the possible brass and resin for each kit, then I will start finishing them one at a time (or so it seems). It would be nice to actually finish one once in a while. However, on the few that are done, I sit it on the mantle, and think about what I would have done differently to make it "perfect" Sometimes, this "hobby" can drive one crazy. It's like getting to the critical last piece of photoetched brass, and have it go zinging off into space, never to be found. Sometimes I feel, that I spend more money for new kits, than for food or new computer devices. Now I have about 12 started little projects (diorama with 3-5 soldiers on it doing something). Besides, I spend 2 hours each day for this hobby. >I did try to actually build a kit without purchasing any brass, tracks, >interior, etc. I made myself a challenge to do the best job weathering, [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > critical last piece of photoetched brass, and have it go zinging off into > space, never to be found. I suffer from tunnel vision. 2 is the most I can have going at one time. > I've gotten into the practice of building a model until it was around 90% > finished, and then starting something new. Most of the time it is in the [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > So, how do you get over this- it must be common. After all, it's just a > hobby, but it would be nice to finish one once in a while. |
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