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Jules - 15 Oct 2007 00:22 GMT
I just had a email, from a Museum in deepest E Germany.

I made a Revell 72nd Mig21 a couple of years ago, for the father of my ex,
then last year i made him the 32nd Trumpeter kit.

He took me to the museum a couple of years back, then i have been back
myself while on my trips, he sent me a email, asking if he could take the
model i made a couple of years ago, to be displayed in there collection, so
i said yes.

Just got this email from the guy from the museum, and a couple of pics,
seems my model as made there website (dont know why, im a sh.t modeller)

Im doing a reply, all in Germanl..which i guess he wont understand a word
of!

Hallo Mr.Hales,

einen Herzlichen Dank aus Rothenburg für das Geschenk.

Wir haben das Modell in unsere Ausstellung aufgenommen und werden in der
nächsten Zeit noch einen Hinweis auf den Spender anbringen. Sehr
interessant fand ich auch ihre Webseite mit den Berichten Ihrer Reisen,
die sie ja oft nach Deutschland geführt haben. Die Seite mit dem Besuch
in Niesky und Rothenburg habe ich zusammen mit dem Bericht zu Ihrem
Geschenk auf unserer Webseite unter news verlinkt.

http://www.luftfahrtmuseum-rothenburg.de/news.html

Ich hoffe Sie bald mal wieder in Rothenburg begrüßen zu können. Mit
einer MiG-17F und der MiG-19PM  im letzten Jahr konnten wir unsere
MiG-Reihe vervollständigen

Viel Grüße auch von Jürgen, der sich über das Foto sehr gefreut hat.

Mit den besten Grüßen aus der Lausitz

Norbert Kalz
Luftfahrttechnischer Museumsverein Rothenburg e.V
Signature

please use my email on my homepage www.julianhales.co.uk  im phasing out
this email over the next month or so.....

Mad-Modeller - 15 Oct 2007 04:40 GMT
Wow!  Congratulations, Jules!  I've never known someone who got their
model into a museum.  BTW, I don't think that one is a 'crap' job. :)

Bill Banaszak
Pat Flannery - 15 Oct 2007 10:41 GMT
> Wow!  Congratulations, Jules!  I've never known someone who got their
> model into a museum.
>  

Oh yeah?  I've got this little 4' x 8' baby here in my hometown of
Jamestown, North Dakota:
http://www.geocities.com/hodag_/Image025.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/hodag_/FtSewardMuseum.html
I got interviewed on statewide TV about building that thing, and
detailed it right down to the brass belt buckles on the the 100+ HO
scales troops on the diorama... that's built on a accurate model of the
terrain it sat on from the original elevation maps from the time period
of the mid-late 1800's. That model even has paths worn into the grass
from the enlisted men's quarters to the outdoor latrines.
And no, although my name is "Pat", it's for "Patrick", not the woman
who's standing next to it. Don't have a clue who she is. The story of
its building is odd indeed, since it concerns a gay Catholic monk, his
Jewish lover, and...don't even get me started...let's just say it was a
unique model-building project, and I learned a lot about the Holocaust
and gay rights while doing it. :-D  

Pat
Mad-Modeller - 16 Oct 2007 04:54 GMT
> > Wow!  Congratulations, Jules!  I've never known someone who got their
> > model into a museum.
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>
> Pat

Pretty cool, Pat.  The plaque says "Patrick Flannery" so I wouldn't have
confused you and the lady.  (BTW, I like redheads but she'd certainly be
safe around me.)
I finally had to haul out the atlas and find Jamestown.  You do have
some interesting place names around you.  Vashti?  Wasn't she a
character on ST/NG? ;)

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
Pat Flannery - 16 Oct 2007 06:44 GMT
> I finally had to haul out the atlas and find Jamestown.  You do have
> some interesting place names around you.  Vashti?  Wasn't she a
> character on ST/NG? ;)
>  

It was Vash that was the character.
You've got a old map...and there's an interesting story about Vashti.
Many years ago I had a book that had a large map of North Dakota from
the 1920s. I noticed that there were towns on it that weren't on modern
maps, with Vashti being one of them. Since it was fairly close by, a
friend and I hopped into the car and set out to find it.  We arrived at
the place shown on the old map, but there was nothing there; my friend
noticed some odd depressions in a field though, so we went over to see
what they were...they were the remains of Vashti. We ran into someone on
the way back when we stopped off at a small diner north of town, and he
told us the story of what happened to the place,
the town was too small to make a go of it after the highways were built
in the 1940s and 50s, as what it had been was a rail stop for farmers to
bring their grain to a elevator so it could be shipped out by train.
With the highways in place, they simply sent their grain into Jamestown
via truck and it was sent out via rail from here.
So the people moved away from Vashti, and their houses were torn up and
their wood sold for use on nearby farms.
All that remains of Vashti are the ruins of a small brick schoolhouse
and the basement of the post office next to the railway tracks.
Everything else - streets, sidewalks, and house foundations, are buried
in the soil and overgrown by wild grass and fields.
The last people left by the mid 1960s, and the whole place has been so
deeply buried since then that you'd think that it had been abandoned
sometime in the middle ages. They say it takes a century to make a inch
of topsoil, but Vashti is a couple of feet underground already.
Other fun North Dakota city names are Zap, Hoople (home of PDQ Bach
inventor Peter Schickele's "University Of Southern North Dakota":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USND_at_Hoople ), Concrete, and Voltaire.
Back in the 1969, all hell broke loose in Zap:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zip_to_Zap  and the National Guard was
called in.
And what is Jamestown noted for?:
http://sorabji.com/2002/road_trip/north_dakota/jamestown/
And of course or incest bred albino buffaloes:
http://www.buffalomuseum.com/whitecloud.htm

Pat
Mad-Modeller - 17 Oct 2007 04:48 GMT
Yep, the book dates to 1960.  I have a newer one but it's a trifle huge
and not quite as detailed with respect to town locations.
According to this map that was a Northern Pacific line through Vashti.

I think it was over the summer that CBS News ran a story on a little
town out there on the prairie that consists of one person.  It was shown
on a Friday night and IIRC, I was lucky and Miss Perky from the Today
Show was off.  Anyway, the lady who is the town is stating so the folks
on the farms around her have someplace to go for a change of scene.
That, and her husband is buried there.

I had an experience a bit like yours when I went up to the northern side
of Pa. to see Sayre.  It used to be a large railroad facility of the
Lehigh Valley RR and I've seen many pics of the place.  The town is
still there but the facilities have completely disappeared.  All that I
found to look at were a couple of concrete footings for the oil tank and
the walkway bridge that crossed over the tracks.
The town's station was partly there and housed a museum, a pizza place
and an artist's store.  That was 16 years ago so who knows what's there
now.

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
Pat Flannery - 18 Oct 2007 03:16 GMT
> Yep, the book dates to 1960.  I have a newer one but it's a trifle huge
> and not quite as detailed with respect to town locations.
> According to this map that was a Northern Pacific line through Vashti.
>  

The rail line is in such poor repair that you could reach down and pull
out the railway spikes with your bare hand.

> I think it was over the summer that CBS News ran a story on a little
> town out there on the prairie that consists of one person.  It was shown
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> That, and her husband is buried there.
>  

Vashti is still on Google maps BTW, but even less shows up on the
satellite images than to the naked eye.
I'm not sure I've even found it on the satellite photos.

Pat
Jules - 15 Oct 2007 23:58 GMT
> Wow!  Congratulations, Jules!  I've never known someone who got their
> model into a museum.  BTW, I don't think that one is a 'crap' job. :)
>
> Bill Banaszak

Well im pleased as punch...just for the email, i love that museum, the
little guy who will walk around with you if you want and tell you stuff,
loves his job, but he talks so fast in German...and he recognises me year
after year. Cant wait to go back and see the new exhibits.

Again this year i took another model, the Dodge Challenger from V point (why
you ask for a old DDR guy, i wont bore you with the details) for my ex's
father Rainer, and this was his reply...

Hallo Jules,

letztes Wochenende waren wir zum Arbeiten (Holzhacken) in Berlin bei Helmut.
Jules, vielen, vielen Dank für das Dodge Challenger-Modell aus Vanishing
Point!!! Ganz wichtig sind die Bremsspuren und der Zaun. In unserem neuen
Sommerhäuschen hat es schon einen Ehrenplatz bekommen und auch den Film
werde ich mir bald wieder anschauen.

Wenn Du nichts dagegen hast, würde ich Dein kleines Mig-Modell (mit dem
mitgeschickten Bild von Dir und dem Museumsführer) als Geschenk von Dir als
begeistertem Besucher des Flugzeugmuseums Rothenburg dem Museum übergeben?
Wie denkst Du darüber?
______________________________
Well i have a idea for the next gift i make him...A T34, which was the last
to roll into Germany, and is now mounted as a monument.
I forgot i had this foto, the DDR museum gives a link to the page on my site

Can anyone tell me which T34 it is....and which would be a good cheapish kit
in 48th or 35th..
http://www.julianhales.co.uk/niesky_06.htm
Pat Flannery - 16 Oct 2007 05:58 GMT
> Well i have a idea for the next gift i make him...A T34, which was the last
> to roll into Germany, and is now mounted as a monument.
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> http://www.julianhales.co.uk/niesky_06.htm
>  

I've never seen a Starfighter in that camouflage scheme before; is the
bottom of the aircraft camouflaged too?
The tank is a T-34/85, details of how to identify the exact sub-type are
here: http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/t3485bg_2.html
There are quite a few models available of T-34/85s in many scales.

Pat
Jules - 16 Oct 2007 23:44 GMT
> > Well i have a idea for the next gift i make him...A T34, which was the last
> > to roll into Germany, and is now mounted as a monument.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> I've never seen a Starfighter in that camouflage scheme before; is the
> bottom of the aircraft camouflaged too?

im sure it is, but thats from memory, so i could be wrong....im not into the
startfighter, or the bronco, and only took fotos cos i was stood next to
them.

> The tank is a T-34/85, details of how to identify the exact sub-type are
> here: http://www.clubhyper.com/reference/t3485bg_2.html
> There are quite a few models available of T-34/85s in many scales.
>
> Pat

thanks, will take a look
Mad-Modeller - 17 Oct 2007 04:26 GMT
> > Well i have a idea for the next gift i make him...A T34, which was the last
> > to roll into Germany, and is now mounted as a monument.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Pat

I think I've seen that on some F-4Fs and Tornadoes.  It's probably
'official' in that the Luftwaffe ground crews painted it with those
colours.

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
Pat Flannery - 15 Oct 2007 09:48 GMT
> I just had a email, from a Museum in deepest E Germany.
>
> I made a Revell 72nd Mig21 a couple of years ago, for the father of my ex,
> then last year i made him the 32nd Trumpeter kit.
>  

Did somebody _finally_ get the fact that the wings have anhedral on them
right, and tell you to position them that way on the model?
Because, if they don't, 9 out of 10 modelers are going to stick them on
at a 90 degree angle to the fuselage and start filling in the gap at the
bottom inside edge.

Pat
 
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