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Model Forum / General / Models / October 2007Microscale Micro Coat Flat
I am puzzled. I bought this to produce a flat hard cover on my model. But the cover is not flat at all! It kinda satin-gloss - very similar to unpainted smooth plastic. What is your experience using this product? So far I'm very disappointed :( Maciek > I am puzzled. > I bought this to produce a flat hard cover on my model. But the cover is not [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Maciek Assuming this is the same kind of coating as Testor's dull coat, I had this problem too. I resolved it accidentally when I shook the bottle before applying and all the 'dull' came up from the bottom. Try giving it a good 30 seconds of shaking. > Assuming this is the same kind of coating as Testor's dull coat, I had > this problem too. I resolved it accidentally when I shook the bottle > before applying and all the 'dull' came up from the bottom. Try giving > it a good 30 seconds of shaking. I gave it even more shaking :( It didn't help. Besides there was nothing on the bottom. Maciek I tried that stuff once and had the same result. I was disappointed since it had such a reputation. Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. > I am puzzled. > I bought this to produce a flat hard cover on my model. But the cover > is not flat at all! > It kinda satin-gloss - very similar to unpainted smooth plastic. > What is your experience using this product? > So far I'm very disappointed :( I had a similar problem. I used to use it twenty-odd years ago when I first started modelling and it was fine, providing a very flat finish which was exactly what I wanted. When I came back to modelling about three years ago I started to use Micro Coat Flat but found exactly what you have found - it provides a satin finish these days. Now I use Xtracrylix Matt. It requires and awful lot of shaking and stirring to incorporate the flatting agent correctly, but it gives an excellent flat finish.  SignatureEnzo I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. > > I am puzzled. > > I bought this to produce a flat hard cover on my model. But the cover [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. I use Polly Scale clear flat - it's an acrylic flat and I've had pretty good luck with it (knock on wood). I too had some disasters with Micro Flat, so I tossed out the bottles I had and vowed to never use it again. If you can get it, I recommend Humbrol MattCote. It needs to be shaken up a little but gives an excellent dead matt finish. I brush it on. Gordon McLaughlin >I am puzzled. > I bought this to produce a flat hard cover on my model. But the cover is [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Maciek > If you can get it, I recommend Humbrol MattCote. It needs to be shaken up a > little but gives an excellent dead matt finish. I brush it on. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > > Maciek So far nobody has mentioned Testors Dullcote or Floquil Flat Finish. Bith give a very nice and flat finish. Peteski >> If you can get it, I recommend Humbrol MattCote. It needs to be shaken up a >> little but gives an excellent dead matt finish. I brush it on. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >Peteski i thin dullcote 1/2 and 1/2 and love the true flat. it's reasonably priced as well. best of all, i have 30+ year old kits without any fade or color change. it even seems to keep decals from uv'ing yellow. it's one of those products that just works and they don't f.ck with. on 10/18/2007 12:46 AM Peter W. said the following: > >> If you can get it, I recommend Humbrol MattCote. It needs to be shaken up a [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > So far nobody has mentioned Testors Dullcote Testor's Dullcoat spray is more semi-gloss than flat. > or Floquil Flat Finish. > Bith give a very nice and flat finish. > > Peteski > > SignatureBill In Hamptonburgh, NY To email, remove the double zeroes after @ > on 10/18/2007 12:46 AM Peter W. said the following: > Testor's Dullcoat spray is more semi-gloss than flat. You have to shake the living sh.t out of it. I took an old orbital sander, mounted it upside down into my vise and strapped a can on with bungees. The turn the sander on for a couple of minutes (I generally do 5, but once got called away to the phone for about 15). The finish is totally flat. Of course if you have access to a ~real~ paint shaker, so much the better. I use Gunze Clear Flat Acrylic thinned with Metholated Spritits and hold the airbrush as far away from the model as possible and achieve a good matt finish. regards JimboD >> on 10/18/2007 12:46 AM Peter W. said the following: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > is totally flat. Of course if you have access to a ~real~ paint > shaker, so much the better. >> If you can get it, I recommend Humbrol MattCote. It needs to be shaken up a >> little but gives an excellent dead matt finish. I brush it on. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Peteski If you want an acrylic flat that does what Micro Coat Flat is supposed to do, I recommend Polly Scale Flat (available in both military and railroad lines). Unlike Testors Dullcote, it has no tint; and it's flatter than Floquil. Pip Moss Thank you everyone for your kind recommendations. I will try different product if I can get them in Poland. (already search for Floquil with no success) Maciek > Thank you everyone for your kind recommendations. I will try different > product if I can get them in Poland. > (already search for Floquil with no success) Test it out on a painted sheet of plastic using the same application order and drying times first, and let it sit for a couple days before doing your model with it; flat finishes over semi-glossy undercoats can shrink and cause cracking as they dry, or react with other overcoats and cause them to crinkle. Pat > Maciek > I am puzzled. > I bought this to produce a flat hard cover on my model. But the cover is not [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Maciek A couple things others didn't suggest are Floquil's Figure Flat. It is a spray can not bottle. It is the deadest flat I've seen. Or you could do a mix of Future and Tamiya's Flat Base. A 50/50 mix is a good starting point. SignatureChuck Ryan Springfield OH> |
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