I'm ready to start painting my two Yak-11s and I could use some advice
from y'all.
The leading edges of the prop blades, front of the engine cowling,
panels under and behind the exhausts, canopy frame and landing gear
doors are chromed. The rest of the aircraft is polished gloss black.
Two questions:
1. What is the best and/or easiest system for a polished chrome?
2. As the undercoat for the chrome is black, is there a black that can
also be used for the rest of the aircraft?
TIA,
Tom
Maciek - 17 Oct 2007 07:36 GMT
The best silvers I came across are:
Vallejo super silver - alcohol bases acrylic.
Agama silver metallic paste - you rub it on model.
And you probably need to give this a glossy varnish finish.
Maciek
Kevin(Bluey) - 17 Oct 2007 10:32 GMT
> I'm ready to start painting my two Yak-11s and I could use some advice
> from y'all.
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> Tom
Alclad II

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Maciek - 17 Oct 2007 10:49 GMT
> Alclad II
Have you compared it to anything else?
It's quite expensive - about 2 times the price of vallejo.
(well Vallejo can be bought for 10-20zl and Alclad is 30zl )
It suggests better quality but ....
Peter W. - 17 Oct 2007 10:58 GMT
On Oct 17, 2:35 am, "maies...@netscape.com" <maies...@netscape.com>
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> I'm ready to start painting my two Yak-11s and I could use some advice
> from y'all.
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> 1. What is the best and/or easiest system for a polished chrome?
Without a doubt Alclad II "Chrome" is the best chrome imitation I've
seen.
> 2. As the undercoat for the chrome is black, is there a black that can
> also be used for the rest of the aircraft?
Well, Alclad II requires a high gloss black (or dark blue). If other
parts of the aircraft are to be that color then you could use it on
the rest of the aircraft. Dullcote or other dulling mediums could be
used in satin or flat finish is required. Just don't apply the flat
finish over the chrome or you'll end up with s satin silver color.
Peteski
> TIA,
>
> Tom
Maciek - 17 Oct 2007 10:55 GMT
>> 2. As the undercoat for the chrome is black, is there a black that can
>> also be used for the rest of the aircraft?
>
> Well, Alclad II requires a high gloss black (or dark blue). I
What do you mean?
What happens when you use Alclad II on non-block or non-gloss undercoat?
Say white flat?
Maciek
Peter W. - 18 Oct 2007 05:54 GMT
> >> 2. As the undercoat for the chrome is black, is there a black that can
> >> also be used for the rest of the aircraft?
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> Maciek
Well then - you end up with a flat sliver (chrome) finish.
Think about it, why are chromed surfaces mirror-like shiny and
reflective? Because they are glossy. That is why Alclad II chrome
required a glossy undercoat.
And the dark color is to deepen the reflection. Have you even noticed
that glossy dark colored surfaces make better mirrors than light
colored glossy surfaces? Just look at your own reflection in a black
car vs. a white car. Alclad Chrome uses the same principal. The
chrome paint layer is very thin so if some undercoat shows thtough,
being dark it'll not be as visible as a light colored undercoat.
Peteski
The Old Man - 17 Oct 2007 11:55 GMT
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> from y'all.
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> Tom
I've recently had real good results with that Testor's Paint Stick
(looks like a Magic Marker). I squish the tip a couple of times to get
the silver paint flowing and daub it off with a brush (gives better
application control that way). Of course, Testors also makes a Chrome.
For bigger jobs, I spray some of this into a disposable plastic cup
(Solo Cups that restaurants use for salad dressing work great!) and
brush it onto appropriate areas.
willshak - 17 Oct 2007 14:11 GMT
on 10/17/2007 2:35 AM maiesm72@netscape.com said the following:
> I'm ready to start painting my two Yak-11s and I could use some advice
> from y'all.
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Chromed?
Perhaps bare aluminum?
Go into any arts and crafts store, like Michaels or AC Moore (US), pick
up some Rub 'n Buff (small 1/2 oz. tube) or Treasure Gold (small round
plastic tub). Both come in silver and is a paste wax material that is
buffed to a shine.

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Kevin(Bluey) - 18 Oct 2007 08:32 GMT
> on 10/17/2007 2:35 AM maiesm72@netscape.com said the following:
>> I'm ready to start painting my two Yak-11s and I could use some advice
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> plastic tub). Both come in silver and is a paste wax material that is
> buffed to a shine.
Plumb forgot about Rub N Buff.It works well ,two colours of silver I
think one is pewter and the other silver leaf.
Comes in a few other colors as well .

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eyeball - 17 Oct 2007 21:19 GMT
I usually use either Tamiya chrome silver,or on really small areas,a
silver sharpie pen.
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> from y'all.
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> Tom
maiesm72@netscape.com - 17 Oct 2007 22:58 GMT
> I usually use either Tamiya chrome silver,or on really small areas,a
> silver sharpie pen.
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Thank, guys.
I'll try a couple of these and see how things come out.
Tom
Bert-Jan - 18 Oct 2007 02:48 GMT
>> I usually use either Tamiya chrome silver,or on really small areas,a
>> silver sharpie pen.
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> Tom
What about Bare Metal Foil?
I think that will give you a very nice and shiny metal finish.

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Peter W. - 18 Oct 2007 05:56 GMT
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> Bert-Jan
Yes, that is an excellent idea. And it will be easier to apply to his
model than masking and painting.
Peteski
maiesm72@netscape.com - 18 Oct 2007 08:44 GMT
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I'm thinking about using Bare Metal Foil for some of the Yaks. I don't
think that I'm talented enough to use it for the cowlng front, though.
Canopy frame (pale grey inside), landing gear doors (flat alluminum
inside), especially the area under and behind the exhausts (with
suitable exhaust stains). As the cowlng ring is a seperate piece I
think that I'll try the Alclad 2.
What gloss black would be most appropriate to use with it?
Thanks for the help. It's really getting me going again on this
project.
Tom