have a Fw-190-D-9 1/32 kit dated 1990 that has a Revell c. 1990
imprint on the outside of the stabilizer. What the heck is this
about? Putting this stuff on the outside? Is this kit a lot
older than 1990? I ask because it has the huge slot behind the cockpit
so the canopy can be slid open or closed. Were they still thinking of
this kit as a toy?
Am I safe to assume that this slot is not accurate?
Craig
> have a Fw-190-D-9 1/32 kit dated 1990 that has a Revell c. 1990
> imprint on the outside of the stabilizer. What the heck is this
> about? Putting this stuff on the outside?
> Is this kit a lot
> older than 1990? I ask because it has the huge slot behind the cockpit
> so the canopy can be slid open or closed. Were they still thinking of
> this kit as a toy?
>
I assume that's the FW-190D-9 kit.
That goes back to sometime in the mid to late 70's...they were making a
whole lot of 1/32 scale model kits in a hurry back then, and they did a
pretty poor job on a lot of them as far as detail goes because they were
in a hurry. I think they saw that the Hasegawa ones were selling, and so
wanted to get back into that market big time ASAP.
The bit with the external copyright info came in sometime in the 1980s,
and was very unpopular with modelers. IIRC, it had something to do with
a change in copyright law that required that the copyright be visible on
the exterior of the product.
> Am I safe to assume that this slot is not accurate?
>
That's the least of the problems with the kit... it's a odd hodge-podge
of a FW-190D-9 and a early Ta-152, with some features found on neither
aircraft - http://modelingmadness.com/reviews/axis/luft/brownlee190d.htm
Unfortunately, the rear canopy area falls into the latter category, it's
basically the sliding rear section of a radial engined FW-190, not the
D-9 variant which had a bulged glazing and redesigned headrest support
on it. About the only D variant that had that was the FW-190D-0
pre-production conversions of FW-190A-7, and that wouldn't explain where
the Ta-152 features were coming from.
The early radial variants did indeed have a slot under the rear canopy;
you can see some info on it here-
http://ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2006/02/tech_aircraft_in_a_day_01.htm
Pat
crw59@earthlink.net - 05 Nov 2007 03:31 GMT
> cr...@earthlink.net wrote:
> > have a Fw-190-D-9 1/32 kit dated 1990 that has a Revell c. 1990
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>
> Pat
thx for the info. an interesting weekend build. does look like a 190
so it will for work for me. Anyone know if there should be a gap
after the prop blades? The set up the kit asks for makes the prop
just wobble around, the pin is not long enough to hold it all in
place.
Craig
Pat Flannery - 05 Nov 2007 04:41 GMT
> thx for the info. an interesting weekend build. does look like a 190
> so it will for work for me. Anyone know if there should be a gap
> after the prop blades? The set up the kit asks for makes the prop
> just wobble around, the pin is not long enough to hold it all in
> place.
>
I just noticed something odd over here -
http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/portland/971/Reviews/luftwaffe/fw-190d-9_32.htm
...the box art shows the correct style headrest, although it's not
included in the kit.
as far as details go, it might be wise to look over the Hasegawa
FW-190D-9 and emulate its details, because it's a well thought of kit;
here's four reviews of it -
http://modelingmadness.com/scotts/axis/luft/fw/190/32190d9.htm
That right there shows the canopy problem... it should either be the
early type with the early headrest and non-bulged glazing, or the later
bulged type with the late type headrest...the Revell one has the late
bulged glazing with the early type headrest.
http://modelingmadness.com/reviews/axis/luft/cleaver32190d.htm
http://modelingmadness.com/reviews/axis/luft/laskodi32190d9.htm
That one has the correct style headrest to match the Revell canopy.
http://modelingmadness.com/reviews/axis/luft/cleaver190d.htm
Pat
PaPaPeng - 05 Nov 2007 07:11 GMT
>I assume that's the FW-190D-9 kit.
>That goes back to sometime in the mid to late 70's...they were making a
>whole lot of 1/32 scale model kits in a hurry back then, and they did a
>pretty poor job on a lot of them as far as detail goes because they were
>in a hurry.
I love the Fw 190-D9 and other variants. When Revell reissued it in
the 90s I grabbed three, cost less than $20 each. I wasn't too
concerned about accuracy. My view of modelling is that it should
look right as compared to the view of the real thing at 10 yards, aka
I am not into rivet counting. One model finish had that red underside
with white stripes identification markings for local (German) airbase
defense. The box art had it sickly pink. I didn't have other
references and matched it to the box art. It turned out that the box
dyes had bleached from red. Aaah well. Someday I may correct that
but its unlikely. I still have a basement full of kits to go through.
Pat Flannery - 05 Nov 2007 07:43 GMT
>
>> I assume that's the FW-190D-9 kit.
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> I am not into rivet counting.
>
The Dora is one of my faves also; I've had ones in 1/72, 1/48, and 1/32
scale.
I had the original issue when it came out. 'Scale Modeler' magazine tore
Revell a a-hole over the model in their review at the time, pointing
out basic things on it that weren't right, and saying it was a odd
hybrid of a FW-190D of some sub-type and a short-winged Ta-152.
Another thing I'd forgotten about the kit is that the vertical fin is
closer to a Ta-152 than a FW-190D-9.
They weren't very fond of the Me-110G night fighter either, but they
liked it better than the FW.
This guy took the Revell kit on as a challenge -
http://modelingmadness.com/reviews/axis/luft/brownlee190d.htm
Pat
On Nov 4, 4:07 pm, "cr...@earthlink.net" <cr...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> have a Fw-190-D-9 1/32 kit dated 1990 that has a Revell c. 1990
> imprint on the outside of the stabilizer. What the heck is this
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>
> Craig
I noticed that when Revell released the old Renwal 1/32 scale armor
kits (Mace w/Terracrusier, M41, M50 Ontos, etc.), they removed the
Renwal logo from the inside of the hull and replaced it with a simple
Revell 1982 marking on the outside of the bottom of the hull.
Pat Flannery - 05 Nov 2007 04:05 GMT
> I noticed that when Revell released the old Renwal 1/32 scale armor
> kits (Mace w/Terracrusier, M41, M50 Ontos, etc.), they removed the
> Renwal logo from the inside of the hull and replaced it with a simple
> Revell 1982 marking on the outside of the bottom of the hull.
>
Now that you mention that, I remember that odd move on their part.
I'd been trying to get one of those Mace kits ever since I was a kid, so
when the History Maker reissue came out I pounced.
It was a ball to build it finally.
Pat
RobG - 05 Nov 2007 22:18 GMT
> > I noticed that when Revell released the old Renwal 1/32 scale armor
> > kits (Mace w/Terracrusier, M41, M50 Ontos, etc.), they removed the
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>
> Pat
Same here, as a kid, the Aurora armor kits were the only ones I could
afford. All the big kids had the Renwal kits with cool moving parts,
lots of large detail and action. I built the Mace when it came out in
the 80s too. I still have the Revell Ontos I bought when I got to
college in 1982 and the History Makers M55 SPG too.