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Model Forum / General / Models / November 2007WWI aircraft colours
Hi Can anyone recommend a good wide-ranging book illustrating WWI aircraft in colour? It's for some 1/300 wargaming miniatures so... it should be cheap (up to £20 or $40) it should cover as many air forces & aircraft as possible it should be readily available it should be full of pretty COLOUR pictures (preferably plan & profile) As you can tell, I don't need painstaking detail, just something simple to get some nice, authentic LOOKING minis on the table. Thanks in advance folks. Wulf on 11/5/2007 6:54 PM Wulf Corbett said the following: > Hi > Can anyone recommend a good wide-ranging book illustrating WWI [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Wulf > Google 'WWI aircraft colors'  SignatureBill In Hamptonburgh, NY To email, remove the double zeroes after @ >Google 'WWI aircraft colors' I tried, I get hundreds of results, most on specific aircraft types, very few with any idea of whether there are useful (to me) illustrations in the books. There are online resources, but I've yet to find more than a few in the same place. Wulf > >Google 'WWI aircraft colors' > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Wulf Unfortunately, there were no standards similar to those in WW2. Even with the same type aircraft, planes from different production runs were finished differently. Once they reached the front, the squadrons could "customize" them to local fads. While this was also done in WW2, it was more tightly controlled than in WW1. One problem is that there were no real volume aircraft manufacturers prior to the war. So the designs were job-shopped to a lot of subcontractors, and finish was apparently not a contract item. > Hi > Can anyone recommend a good wide-ranging book illustrating WWI [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Wulf Here's some inspirational stuff, but you want to double check (googling is pretty good) how recent research shows these planes to be. Wings Palette... they mine the internet for profiles and some are pretty good. Others are... well ..crap. But it's a start, and it's free. http://wp.scn.ru/ If you're really into modeling, there are a number of books I'd recommend. If you're just doing 1:300 war gaming pieces, that ought to be just fine. Have fun! --- Stephen >Here's some inspirational stuff, but you want to double check (googling >is pretty good) how recent research shows these planes to be. Wings >Palette... they mine the internet for profiles and some are pretty good. >Others are... well ..crap. But it's a start, and it's free. This looks great, but it seems to be all profiles - so, no idea what was on top of the wings! >If you're really into modeling, there are a number of books I'd >recommend. If you're just doing 1:300 war gaming pieces, that ought to >be just fine. Have fun! It does seem like the lack of standardisation is going to force me to look at a few individuals for inspiration, then... wing it... Wulf on 11/6/2007 1:48 PM Wulf Corbett said the following: > >> Here's some inspirational stuff, but you want to double check (googling [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Wulf > At 1/300, you're not going to get a lot of detail, especially if you try that German lozenge pattern. :-) SignatureBill In Hamptonburgh, NY To email, remove the double zeroes after @ >At 1/300, you're not going to get a lot of detail, especially if you try >that German lozenge pattern. :-) I have considered that... I have a few Roden WW1 kits with colour plates & decals. A little light daubing, while no doubt overscale, will look the business! I once attempted to paint a 1/144 Viggen in that Sweedish splinter camo, you know... Wulf > >At 1/300, you're not going to get a lot of detail, especially if you try > >that German lozenge pattern. :-) [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Wulf And you survived. Who says modellers aren't made of tough stuff? Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. ;) Wulf Corbett said the following on 06/11/2007 18:48: >> Here's some inspirational stuff, but you want to double check (googling >> is pretty good) how recent research shows these planes to be. Wings [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Wulf Camouflage '14-18 Aircraft by O.G. Thetford might be helpful. It has some colour plates, top, bottom and side, if that's of any help to you? >Camouflage '14-18 Aircraft by O.G. Thetford might be helpful. It has >some colour plates, top, bottom and side, if that's of any help to you? Could be - published 1943 too! Thanks to everyone, I now have some good ideas - primarily I have the idea that what I was looking for (abundantly available for WW2 aircraft) just isn't around for WW1 aircraft. However, I have also discovered just how incredibly cheap some of the Osprey 'Aces' books are on Amazon Used & New! I've always assumed those were good colour & painting reference guides, but too specific - but at these prices, I could buy a half-dozen! Would anyone care to comment on their suitability? Especially specific volumes with lots of pretty colour drawings... Wulf Wulf Corbett said the following on 06/11/2007 20:07: >> Camouflage '14-18 Aircraft by O.G. Thetford might be helpful. It has >> some colour plates, top, bottom and side, if that's of any help to you? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Wulf If you need a couple of scans that should be okay. The booklet is not full of them so it wouldn't be too much of a problem. >> However, I have also discovered just how incredibly cheap some of the >> Osprey 'Aces' books are on Amazon Used & New! I've always assumed >> those were good colour & painting reference guides, but too specific - >> but at these prices, I could buy a half-dozen! Would anyone care to >> comment on their suitability? Especially specific volumes with lots of >> pretty colour drawings... >If you need a couple of scans that should be okay. The booklet is not >full of them so it wouldn't be too much of a problem. I wasn't talking about scanning them, I was thinking of buying a few - they're under a fiver, mostly. Thereafter I'll have them as reference material, and inspiration... Wulf >>Camouflage '14-18 Aircraft by O.G. Thetford might be helpful. It has >>some colour plates, top, bottom and side, if that's of any help to you? [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Wulf Usually no top view, just lots of profiles. There is a nook called Flying Colors which is basically war planes from WWI to 70s or 80s. Mine is hardcover, large format. Many of the aircraft have plan views as well as profiles. I think for your purposes this might be a really good start. Amazon.com is your friend. Frank > >Here's some inspirational stuff, but you want to double check (googling > >is pretty good) how recent research shows these planes to be. Wings [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Wulf Yep.... you gotta dig to find more stuff. Here's another inspirational site.. artwork of Shigeo Koike (illustrator extraordinaire for Hasegawa): http://www.ne.jp/asahi/airplane/museum/Ecl-pln2.html ==== Stephen > Hi > Can anyone recommend a good wide-ranging book illustrating WWI [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Wulf Harleyford published a book back in the day that has what you want. I've seen them numerous times on ePay for amounts well within your limits. Coax out "Harleyford Book" and you should get one or two hits almost any time. Wulf: A really good introduction to WWI schemes is a book called "Color Profiles Of World War 1 Combat Planes" by Giorgio-Apostolo and Giorgio Begnozzi with a foreword by William Green. Check Amazon.com for a used copy - or do a search on the Alibris search site. You should be able to locate a copy for less than $25 which is still a good price for an excellent, albeit out-of-print resource. ~Rick |
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