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Model Forum / General / Models / November 2007Pre War 1930's Airplanes - What Subjects Are a "Must Have" for a collection?
I just recently required the four Hasegawa 1/32 plane series. Are there other important aircraft of the 1930's that one shoud have in a collection? I cannot recall the name of one, but it has been painted with talons on the wheel spats. USA primarily. thx all - Craig On Nov 8, 8:02?pm, "cr...@earthlink.net" <cr...@earthlink.net> wrote: > I just recently required the four Hasegawa 1/32 plane series. Are > there other important aircraft of the 1930's that one shoud have in a > collection? I cannot recall the name of one, but it has been painted > with talons on the wheel spats. USA primarily. > > thx all - Craig The Curtiss P-6E Hawk is the one you're thinking of. Lots of others such as the Boeing F4B/P-12, the Vought Corsairs, Curtiss Helldivers, and later on the Boeing P-26 if you just want to count US fighters. Cookie Sewell On Nov 8, 5:15 pm, AMPS...@aol.com wrote: > On Nov 8, 8:02?pm, "cr...@earthlink.net" <cr...@earthlink.net> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Cookie Sewell the Corsair? I have an old airplane book of my dads, I think from 1940 that had a Corsair with yellow wings, Also showed a P-38 with yellow wings. Was that artistic license or for real? I have the 1/32 Peashooter from Hasegawa. Are the planes you listed available from any mainstream companies? Not sure I can deal with a 1/48 or 1/72 kit with PE and/or vacuform anymore... thx much - Craig > On Nov 8, 5:15 pm, AMPS...@aol.com wrote: >> On Nov 8, 8:02?pm, "cr...@earthlink.net" <cr...@earthlink.net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > thx much - Craig I think he meant the 1930s era biplane scout float plane. Frank > On Nov 8, 5:15 pm, AMPS...@aol.com wrote: > > On Nov 8, 8:02?pm, "cr...@earthlink.net" <cr...@earthlink.net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > thx much - Craig 'Corsair' was applied to several designs from Vought, the F4U being just one of them. That said, I believe the XF4U may have had yellow wings but remember that it also had a cockpit farther forward than the production types. OTOH I don't think I've ever seen a yellow-winged P-38 except as an artist's rendering. I'm sure that you do have a Martin B-10 in your collection. That was the quintessential prewar US bomber. And they're mon-kee approved. ;) Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. > "cr...@earthlink.net" wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. I did have the Willaims Bros. B-10 way back around 1975 when I was 16 yrs old. And as everyone has bought the thing, it never got finished. I think it met its doom with paint thinner, a match and the good ol' Daisy. Craig >> "cr...@earthlink.net" wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > >Craig i saw an actual build in a magazine. seemed real. > I'm sure that you do have a Martin B-10 in your collection. That was > the quintessential prewar US bomber. And they're mon-kee approved. ;) > > Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. Has to be the most unfinished kit of all time! (I tried 2 - slow learner I guess) Jack G. > "cr...@earthlink.net" wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > - Show quoted text - I've seen colorized photos in old "Air Trails" magazines that showed the earliest Corsairs with yellow wings, a grey fuselage, and as you said, the cockpit much further forward than later production models. Also the earliest P-39 and P-38, although these might have been flight test vehicles. >> "cr...@earthlink.net" wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > Also the earliest P-39 and P-38, although these might have been flight > test vehicles. There may have been many pictures, but I'm certain they were of only one plane - the original XF4U-1. IIRC, only the prototype lacked the familiar long nose Corsair layout. WmB > >> "cr...@earthlink.net" wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Prolly right, and don't forget that other Vought prototype, (173? - looked kinda like a Curtiss P-36 Hawk) that was lost early in the flight testig phase when it flew out over the Pacific and was never seen again. Colorized photos that I've seen of that one show a grey fuselage with chrome yellow wings. Then there are those planes that were important pre-war designs that soldiered on in WWII. Macchi Cr32 and Cr42, Gloster Gladiator, Bristol Bulldog, Poliparkov I-16, I-153...etc etc. These are just single engine types... In short, there are a LOT of must-haves. ---Stephen The Inpact/Pyro/Lindberg big four (eight): Bulldog, Flycatcher, Fury and Gladiator--great kits cast before you were born. The decals? Eh, but the SMER/Merit Bulldog has a great set for the Inpact Bulldog, and the kit & decals cost less than most aftermarket sheets. > The Inpact/Pyro/Lindberg big four (eight): Bulldog, Flycatcher, Fury > and Gladiator--great kits cast before you were born. The decals? Eh, > but the SMER/Merit Bulldog has a great set for the Inpact Bulldog, and > the kit & decals cost less than most aftermarket sheets. Had a friend who converted the Gladiator into a Gauntlet, the Fury into a Nimrod and was looking into conversions for the other two as well when I last talked to him. Kitbashing can be fun (if it doesn't drive you crazy)..... On Nov 8, 7:02 pm, "cr...@earthlink.net" <cr...@earthlink.net> wrote: > I just recently required the four Hasegawa 1/32 plane series. Are > there other important aircraft of the 1930's that one shoud have in a > collection? I cannot recall the name of one, but it has been painted > with talons on the wheel spats. USA primarily. > > thx all - Craig Well, they would be awful big for 1:32 scale, but any thirties collection should include the DC-3, the Lockheed Electra, and the Beech D-18/C-45. Also, how about Stinson Reliant, a beautiful airplane with a big round engine. Piper cub is also an important airplane of the thirties. Don't get the idea that the only important planes of the thirties are military- there are any number of interesting civil planes. I have started a collection of commercial flying boats- the Boeing 314 and the Martin clipper. Would like to see a nice kit of the big Sikorski boat. On Nov 9, 11:40 am, Don Stauffer in Minnesota <stauf...@usfamily.net> wrote: > On Nov 8, 7:02 pm, "cr...@earthlink.net" <cr...@earthlink.net> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > the Martin clipper. Would like to see a nice kit of the big Sikorski > boat. thx for the other names. I'm open to just about everything. Some of the lines on planes of the 30's were just beautiful. Craig > On Nov 9, 11:40 am, Don Stauffer in Minnesota <stauf...@usfamily.net> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Craig Williams also had a 1/72 Northrop Delta(?), Boeing 247 and the 1/32 GeeBees and other racers. In 1/48, Hawk had more racing planes - simple, but not much repeated elsewhere. Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. > "cr...@earthlink.net" wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Speaking of 1:48 racers and civies, don't forget the ones from Lindberg back in the day. Peguso has repoped them and they go nicely against the Hawk models, especially the Howard "Pete" (forerunner of the "Ike"), the Vernon Payne "Knight Twister", the Velie "Monocoupe" (get two and undo the clipped wings) and the Ercoupe Club- Aire - they're all from the 1930s. On Nov 9, 3:31?pm, "cr...@earthlink.net" <cr...@earthlink.net> wrote: > thx for the other names. I'm open to just about everything. Some of > the lines on planes of the 30's were just beautiful. Flew that way too. A lot of the old timers regretted the day that canopies were put on fighters. BTW, check HLJ for some interesting new kits of Japanese 30's fighters. On Nov 9, 2:31 pm, "cr...@earthlink.net" <cr...@earthlink.net> wrote: > On Nov 9, 11:40 am, Don Stauffer in Minnesota <stauf...@usfamily.net> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Craig That is why so many people refer to it as the Golden Age. Several books (photo, coffee table type) of Golden Age aircraft exist. > That is why so many people refer to it as the Golden Age. Several > books (photo, coffee table type) of Golden Age aircraft exist. > You'd be hard pressed to ever beat the lines of the Hughes H-1 racer: http://www.wrightools.com/hughes/ Pat |
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