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Fokker DR1 questions

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Don Stauffer in Minnesota - 13 Nov 2007 14:20 GMT
I am building the Roden 1:32 DR1.  Got a couple of questions. I have a
French mag, Replic, that shows shoulder harnesses in both the kit
buildup and a real DR1 in a museum.  Did they really use shoulder
harnesses in WW1?  I thought those came in the twenties and thirties.
Were they added to the museum plane later, or were they original
equipment.

The green over green brushed finish- was this some sort of
camoulflage, or just a protective finish.  Why is it applied in a
diagonal pattern on the wing- camoulflage, or just brushing with a
covering bias?
Pat Flannery - 13 Nov 2007 18:28 GMT
> I am building the Roden 1:32 DR1.  Got a couple of questions. I have a
> French mag, Replic, that shows shoulder harnesses in both the kit
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> equipment.
>  

Well, in this case, I can get you some pretty good evidence that they
were on the original aircraft during the war, via Rosebud's WW I
aviation photo collection:
http://www.earlyaviator.com/archive/w/images/FokkerDR1_115A.jpg
That's Heinrich Gontermann's crashed DR1 showing the shoulder harness.
Rosebud's is a great source for reference photos of WWI aircraft for
modelers: http://www.earlyaviator.com/archive1.htm

Pat
Don Stauffer in Minnesota - 14 Nov 2007 17:07 GMT
> > I am building the Roden 1:32 DR1.  Got a couple of questions. I have a
> > French mag, Replic, that shows shoulder harnesses in both the kit
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>
> Pat

Wow, that second web site is really a dandy.
Pat Flannery - 14 Nov 2007 20:48 GMT
>> Well, in this case, I can get you some pretty good evidence that they
>> were on the original aircraft during the war, via Rosebud's WW I
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>
>  

Check out the postcards section for fun stuff:
http://www.earlyaviator.com/archive/images7/Flirtations2.jpg
http://www.earlyaviator.com/archive/a/images/death_raid.jpg
And here's what happens when a aeroplane falls out of the sky onto a
horse and car:
http://www.earlyaviator.com/archive/images9/Plane.Horse.Car.Crash.jpg

Pat
eyeball - 13 Nov 2007 21:33 GMT
Interesting,since I always heard no DR1s survive.
On Nov 13, 9:20 am, Don Stauffer in Minnesota <stauf...@usfamily.net>
wrote:
> I am building the Roden 1:32 DR1.  Got a couple of questions. I have a
> French mag, Replic, that shows shoulder harnesses in both the kit
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> diagonal pattern on the wing- camoulflage, or just brushing with a
> covering bias?
Mad-Modeller - 15 Nov 2007 06:40 GMT
> I am building the Roden 1:32 DR1.  Got a couple of questions. I have a
> French mag, Replic, that shows shoulder harnesses in both the kit
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> diagonal pattern on the wing- camoulflage, or just brushing with a
> covering bias?

IIRC, the top of the fuselage should also show diagonal brush strokes.
I don't know the reason why but camouflage might be a good answer since
all horizontal surfaces seem to be brushed the same.

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
The Keeper - 17 Nov 2007 03:15 GMT
> > I am building the Roden 1:32 DR1. �Got a couple of questions. I have a
> > French mag, Replic, that shows shoulder harnesses in both the kit
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.

Several books on the DR.1 outline the painting procedure at the
factory. It was painted overall light blue. Then some poor schlub had
to pick up a wide brush, dip it in green paint, and apply brushstrokes
in a vertical pattern on vertical surfaces and diagonal on horizontal
surfaces. Depending on how often he reloaded his brush, you could get
an almost solid green fading to almost blue creating a somewhat
"barber pole" effect.
hth
The Keeper
Mad-Modeller - 17 Nov 2007 06:39 GMT
> > > I am building the Roden 1:32 DR1. �Got a couple of questions. I have a
> > > French mag, Replic, that shows shoulder harnesses in both the kit
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> hth
> The Keeper

Hey, it kept him away from the Front.

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
The Keeper - 17 Nov 2007 15:15 GMT
> > > > I am building the Roden 1:32 DR1. �Got a couple of questions. I have a
> > > > French mag, Replic, that shows shoulder harnesses in both the kit
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>
> - Show quoted text -

LOL! Can't go wrong there! Of course at the front another schlub with
a brush painted some more markings on it obscuring the fine
camouflage.
Cheers,
The Keeper
 
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