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Kits Presently Available Priced through the Ceiling

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Albert - 18 Nov 2007 22:17 GMT
Has anyone noticed with the auction places or old kit stores( mostly
on the internet) That there holdings fall into three types. There are
geninuely hard to get things such as old science fiction. Kits that
still represent the best model of the type. Kits where one must decide
if they are worth breaking the piggy bank.

Then there are the kits for which superior models now exist. Where one
would either be saving a kit surpassed like a wine that will never be
opened or there is a lack of knowledge to obscure the fact that a
better kit exists. I concede there are a few that will pay eighty
dollars to build a jet that cost me .75 cents in 1969 for nostalgic
reasons.

My favorite finding I will split in two parts. One can find a marked
up kit at the sites I mentioned possibly not realizing it is in
production. It is in the hobby store much cheaper from the same
company, or a rebox from a company that acquired the rights such as
Revell germany has done with many Matchbox types.

For me, since I only get what I plan to build, such companies and
auction sites might have something such as an old Italian seaplane or
flying boat not in production that is still the best thing going. Yet
at the high prices I see more and more the resin market is stepping in
with a better product.

Sincerely,

AC
Mad-Modeller - 19 Nov 2007 02:17 GMT
My favourite is one fellow who bought a bunch of my half-finished stuff
which I sold him at the price I paid for the kits when I bought them.
He has finished them and is now listing them at prices I would never
have the cajones to ask.  
I really don't think I would have sold the stuff had I known it wasn't
for his personal collection.  Oh well, live and learn.

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
Ray S. & Nayda Katzaman - 19 Nov 2007 17:59 GMT
> My favourite is one fellow who bought a bunch of my half-finished stuff
> which I sold him at the price I paid for the kits when I bought them.
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>
> Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.

Bill,
At the risk of sounding like the grammar police, cajones (as you spelled
above) translates in Spanish to boxes.  On the other hand COJONES refer to
testicles, family jewels, mountain oysters, balls, those that are carried
in the scrotum, etc.

Cheers,

Ray
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Mad-Modeller - 20 Nov 2007 03:31 GMT
> > My favourite is one fellow who bought a bunch of my half-finished stuff
> > which I sold him at the price I paid for the kits when I bought them.
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> Ray
> ===

Uh, thanks Ray.  I should stick with words I know so that I don't put my
typing fingers in my mouth thusly.

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
Count DeMoney - 19 Nov 2007 19:30 GMT
It always comes down to one thing, an item is worth what someone is
willing to pay for it, too high or too low is only a subjective point
of view by the individual.
dancho - 19 Nov 2007 21:05 GMT
> It always comes down to one thing, an item is worth what someone is
> willing to pay for it, too high or too low is only a subjective point
> of view by the individual.
Before bidding on an eBay item, check to make SURE that it hasn't been
re-released.  A HUGE number of old, old kits are being re-released now.
Count DeMoney - 19 Nov 2007 21:33 GMT
> > It always comes down to one thing, an item is worth what someone is
> > willing to pay for it, too high or too low is only a subjective point
> > of view by the individual.
>
> Before bidding on an eBay item, check to make SURE that it hasn't been
> re-released.  A HUGE number of old, old kits are being re-released now.

A good example of that is the Revell 1/48 Visible / Cutaway B-17.  It
is scheduled for re-release the end of December and the older kit is
selling on ebay for up to $200.
Albert - 20 Nov 2007 00:50 GMT
> > > It always comes down to one thing, an item is worth what someone is
> > > willing to pay for it, too high or too low is only a subjective point
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> is scheduled for re-release the end of December and the older kit is
> selling on ebay for up to $200.

It has been pointed out quite correctly that people will pay what
they will for an item. I have seen on Leno people buying extra long
french fries, a shoe of a photographer run over by Britney Spears. You
name it: people pay tens if not hundreds of dollars for this stuff.

I am going to divide the model builders, I do not address those who
speculate on collecting, into two types. hose who just want the best
example of a given machine and those who might want a particular kit
for nostalgia. Perhaps a project such as building all the original
Monogram 1/48 WWII fighters because they did this as a kid or always
wanted to build the series.

I was trying to focus when speaking of re-sellers on modelers who
wanted to build the best available example of a given machine. I
myself have for example a 1/72 TBY vacuform, a resin kit, and will
probably get the injection molded kit. At no point should anyone pay
more for the vacuform if construction is the intent. The vacuform is
nice, but it is surpassed by the other two kits.

I think the post pointing out to check what is in the retail stores
both shops and sites before bidding on auctions or  buying from the
resale internet stores is most important in saving your dollar.

Also I might add ask at a club or on the groups and boards if the kit
you spotted on line is the latest in the scale. I am thinking back to
some 1/50 scale Japanese fighters I thought were so cool when I was
young. I still love the planes, but I would get the 1/48 scale
Hasegawa kits ( I do have most of them) I want nostalgia and accuracy.
I would hate to pay $80.00 for an old 1/50 scale kit, only to find out
my Frank or George can be had in a modern 1/48 kit for $30.00

AC
 
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