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Visible 1/48 B-17's are Available Now

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crw59@earthlink.net - 02 Jan 2008 21:51 GMT
just in case anyone was wondering, they are out now.... two of them
rcvd today are heading to the attic for the duration .

Craig
n329df@AdiespamOL.com - 16 Jan 2008 00:16 GMT
On Jan 2, 2:51�pm, "cr...@earthlink.net" <cr...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> just in case anyone was wondering, they are out now.... two of them
> rcvd today are heading to the attic for the duration .
>
> Craig

I picked one up today from Hobbytown USA in West Phoenix. Two things I
noticed was it had Monogram on the box, and it was made in China.
Now that the B-17 molds are in China, maybe Trumpeter will upscale
them to 1/32 scale
Count DeMoney - 16 Jan 2008 00:38 GMT
On Jan 15, 5:16 pm, "n32...@AdiespamOL.com" <n32...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Jan 2, 2:51�pm, "cr...@earthlink.net" <cr...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
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> Now that the B-17 molds are in China, maybe Trumpeter will upscale
> them to 1/32 scale

Mine came over the weekend.  Has anyone done a review of any kind on
this kit?  Is it strictly a re-issue or have there been some upgrades?
someone@some.domain - 16 Jan 2008 01:11 GMT
>On Jan 15, 5:16 pm, "n32...@AdiespamOL.com" <n32...@aol.com> wrote:
>> On Jan 2, 2:51=EF=BF=BDpm, "cr...@earthlink.net" <cr...@earthlink.net> wro=
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>Mine came over the weekend.  Has anyone done a review of any kind on
>this kit?  Is it strictly a re-issue or have there been some upgrades?
how much is it going for?
n329df@AdiespamOL.com - 16 Jan 2008 17:00 GMT
On Jan 15, 6:11�pm, some...@some.domain wrote:
> In article <c5db5515-94c3-472d-864c-1261ec4eb...@e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, Count DeMoney <Ronnie...@gmail.com> wrote:
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MSRP, $31.95 US
willshak - 16 Jan 2008 15:13 GMT
on 1/15/2008 7:38 PM Count DeMoney said the following:
> On Jan 15, 5:16 pm, "n32...@AdiespamOL.com" <n32...@aol.com> wrote:
>  
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> this kit?  Is it strictly a re-issue or have there been some upgrades?
>  
Here's one:
http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/rm/kit_rm_5614.shtml
Google    1/48 visible b-17 review   for more

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Pat Flannery - 16 Jan 2008 17:30 GMT
> Here's one:
> http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/rm/kit_rm_5614.shtml
> Google    1/48 visible b-17 review   for more

This would be the perfect kit for someone to do a huge after-market
resin/photoetch superdetail set for.

Pat
crw59@earthlink.net - 16 Jan 2008 17:49 GMT
> > Here's one:
> >http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/rm/kit_rm_5614.shtml
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>
> Pat

and add a clear wing to it too.

How old is the visible B-17 kit?  were there ever plans to  try it on
other planes?

Craig
Pat Flannery - 16 Jan 2008 18:28 GMT
> How old is the visible B-17 kit?  were there ever plans to  try it on
> other planes?
>  

Monogram got the ball rolling for aircraft with their visible P-51
"Phantom Mustang" kit in 1961.
http://www.internetmodeler.com/2001/january/first-looks/mono_mustang_review.htm
They later did a visible Huey helicopter during the Vietnam war.
The inspiration was probably the AFAIK original visible kit, the
Strombecker Disney Satellite rocket from 1955:
http://fantastic-plastic.com/DISNEY%20SATELLITE%20LAUNCHER%20PAGE.htm
After that Renwal started making all sort of visible kits of things
(engines, people, and animals) and the craze caught on with other
manufactures.
I had a visible Tamiya X-1 in 1/72 scale a few years back.

Pat
Pat Flannery - 16 Jan 2008 19:25 GMT
> The inspiration was probably the AFAIK original visible kit, the
> Strombecker Disney Satellite rocket from 1955:
> http://fantastic-plastic.com/DISNEY%20SATELLITE%20LAUNCHER%20PAGE.htm

I guess that should be 1956.
This must have stayed in production for several years as my older
brother had one of these around 1960 or 61 that I remember him building.
Scott Lowther is going to have a model of the original von Braun
passenger rocket out shortly; this is where the whole Space Shuttle
concept first got rolling:
http://www.fantastic-plastic.com/VonBraunOrbitalRocketCataloguePage.htm
Meanwhile, Sharkit of France is also bringing out one of the orbital
stage in 1/72: http://renax.club.fr/sharkit/ferryrocket/ferryrocket.htm

Pat
crw59@earthlink.net - 16 Jan 2008 19:27 GMT
> > The inspiration was probably the AFAIK original visible kit, the
> > Strombecker Disney Satellite rocket from 1955:
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>
> Pat

googled for b-36 pics and found this blog. about halfway down there
is  small pic with cutaway views of the
B-10, B-17, B-29 and B-36. sure wish the image was larger but what the
heck...

probably too much $$$ to get someone to make clear fuselages for those
planes.

we really need a decent B-10, in 1/48 or larger..   Craig

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/usa/bomber/
b-36-DFSC8408873_JPG.jpg&imgrefurl=http://blogarticles.blogspot.com/2005_08_01_a
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id=A-6iqiyDwp5OWM:&tbnh=93&tbnw=148&ei=dlmOR8LOEoqoiAHc783fBw&prev=/images%3Fq%3
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n329df@AdiespamOL.com - 17 Jan 2008 01:55 GMT
On Jan 16, 12:27�pm, "cr...@earthlink.net" <cr...@earthlink.net>
wrote:

> > > The inspiration was probably the AFAIK original visible kit, the
> > > Strombecker Disney Satellite rocket from 1955:
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Not really, same mold, just clear plastic, I would gladly pay a extra
couple of bucks for a clear fuselage.
Pat Flannery - 17 Jan 2008 14:56 GMT
> googled for b-36 pics and found this blog. about halfway down there
> is  small pic with cutaway views of the
> B-10, B-17, B-29 and B-36. sure wish the image was larger

What that painting doesn't show because the jet pod is in the way is
that between those two huge first-generation H-bombs in the B-36's bomb
bay a modified "Fat Man" type A- bomb could also be carried.
I assume this was to deal with any small Soviet city the bomber happened
to fly over on the way home after removing Moscow and Leningrad from the
map.

Pat
someone@some.domain - 17 Jan 2008 00:19 GMT
>> The inspiration was probably the AFAIK original visible kit, the
>> Strombecker Disney Satellite rocket from 1955:
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>
>Pat

oh no, another miss lunch for a year kits. where's the penny rolls?
frank - 17 Jan 2008 13:49 GMT
Let's see, some Japanese company made a 1/72 clear P-51D.
Sort of a 'mini-Monogram' one. Don't recall the mfr. There have been
several airliner models with a clear fuselage half, haven't there? I
think Revell had 1 or 2, & I'm thinking the Bandai or whatever YS-11
had a clear fuselage half at some point. I think there was a Japanese-
made WWII Japanese bomber made with clear parts too. I had Jeff
Roberts of Combat Models make me a clear 1/32 F4U-5 for my 'some day
stash', I'd like to do it in the same manner as the Monogram Phantom
Mustang. It is a shame that many of these models with highly detailed
interiors don't have clear fuselages. I guess cut-aways & maybe custom
vac clear fuselges are the only other options.

> cr...@earthlink.net wrote:
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> Pat
Pat Flannery - 17 Jan 2008 16:44 GMT
> I think there was a Japanese-
> made WWII Japanese bomber made with clear parts too.

Tamiya did a C6N1 Saiun "Myrt"  recon aircraft with a transparent port
fuselage side in 1/50 scale back in the late 1960s.

Pat
n329df@AdiespamOL.com - 17 Jan 2008 01:49 GMT
On Jan 16, 10:49�am, "cr...@earthlink.net" <cr...@earthlink.net>
wrote:

> > > Here's one:
> > >http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/rm/kit_rm_5614.shtml
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>
> Craig

I wish Monogram would do a fuselage half in clear for all of thier
large planes, ie, the B-25, B-26, A-26, B-24, B-29, seems a shame that
they have a nice interior that can't be seen once it is built.
someone@some.domain - 17 Jan 2008 03:05 GMT
>On Jan 16, 10:49=EF=BF=BDam, "cr...@earthlink.net" <cr...@earthlink.net>
>wrote:
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>large planes, ie, the B-25, B-26, A-26, B-24, B-29, seems a shame that
>they have a nice interior that can't be seen once it is built.

the 29 with it's trolley and gunner positions would be cool.
someone@some.domain - 17 Jan 2008 05:13 GMT
>>On Jan 16, 10:49=EF=BF=BDam, "cr...@earthlink.net" <cr...@earthlink.net>
>>wrote:
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>the 29 with it's trolley and gunner positions would be cool.
ok, i cracked. squadron is sending me the visible 17.
oh human frailties.
Pat Flannery - 17 Jan 2008 15:39 GMT
>> I wish Monogram would do a fuselage half in clear for all of thier
>> large planes, ie, the B-25, B-26, A-26, B-24, B-29, seems a shame that
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> the 29 with it's trolley and gunner positions would be cool.
>  

The B-36 had a trolley, on the B-29 you just crawled through the tube IIRC.

Pat
Count DeMoney - 16 Jan 2008 17:51 GMT
> > Here's one:
> >http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/rm/kit_rm_5614.shtml
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>
> Pat

Laugh ........... When I ordered this kit (I actually ordered 2 of
them)  in July, knowing it wouldn't be released until early 08, I had
a plan.  Over the last 6 months, I bought every piece of aftermarket
PE, Resin, Canopies, Masks, and decals I could find.  We took a short
vacation to Tucson and I spent a day at PIMA Air Museum and shot about
200 photos of their B-17 on display.  I also bought several of the
walk around's and books.  I'm very prepared.  It's going to be an
interesting build (:>
someone@some.domain - 17 Jan 2008 00:20 GMT
>> > Here's one:
>> >http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/rm/kit_rm_5614.shtml
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>walk around's and books.  I'm very prepared.  It's going to be an
>interesting build (:>
please share some pics with us.
someone@some.domain - 16 Jan 2008 01:11 GMT
>On Jan 2, 2:51=EF=BF=BDpm, "cr...@earthlink.net" <cr...@earthlink.net> wrote=
>:
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>Now that the B-17 molds are in China, maybe Trumpeter will upscale
>them to 1/32 scale

i heard that kits are run out of generic plastic plants, owned by pols or
military shmucks.
 
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