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Enzo Matrix - 10 Jan 2008 11:50 GMT
"Spitfire: Portrait of a Legend" by Leo McKinstry.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Spitfire-Portrait-Legend-Leo-McKinstry/dp/0719568749

I was bought this book for Christmas and I thoroughly enjoyed.  It has a
very interesting account of the rivalry between Dowding and Park on the one
hand and Leigh-Mallory and Bader on the other. That rivalry led to the
Battle of Britain being much more of a close-run thing than it actually
needed to be.

This book is a very easy read, but has been researched very well indeed. The
only problems that I can see with it is the dreadful cover. The synopsis
sounds like it was written by a teenage fanboy. There must be literally
thousands of dramatic photographs of Spitfires that could have been used for
the cover. Instead they have used a very badly Photoshopped photograph of a
badly-built 1/48 Hasegawa Mk IX.

Ignore the cover.  Read the book!

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Enzo

I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota - 10 Jan 2008 15:42 GMT
> "Spitfire: Portrait of a Legend" by Leo McKinstry.
>
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>
> I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.

Changing the subject slightly, I am a big flying boat fan. I saw in
the latest Historic Aviation catalog a new book on the PanAm clippers.
It is a fifty buck book- a little pricey for me to buy sight unseen.
I went to my local library yesterday to pick up a book, and lo and
behold they had the clipper book in their "new book" display. I
checked it out but have barely started. I'll let folks know later
whether it is as good as it appears at first glance.
kim - 10 Jan 2008 22:10 GMT
> "Spitfire: Portrait of a Legend" by Leo McKinstry.
>
> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Spitfire-Portrait-Legend-Leo-McKinstry/dp/0719568749
>
> I was bought this book for Christmas and I thoroughly enjoyed.

How did the person who bought you the book guess you were interested in
Spitfires, Enzo? Did you perhaps leave a hint or two lying around the house?

(kim)
Enzo Matrix - 10 Jan 2008 22:12 GMT
>> "Spitfire: Portrait of a Legend" by Leo McKinstry.
>>
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> in Spitfires, Enzo? Did you perhaps leave a hint or two lying around
> the house?

It was my brother.  I've been emailing him about the Spitfire models I've
been building.  His present also included four bottles of Spitfire ale!  LOL

http://www.spitfireale.co.uk/

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Enzo

I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.

Pat Flannery - 10 Jan 2008 22:31 GMT
> It was my brother.  I've been emailing him about the Spitfire models I've
> been building.  His present also included four bottles of Spitfire ale!  LOL
>
> http://www.spitfireale.co.uk/
>  

My favorite of their ads is still this one:
http://www.spitfireale.co.uk/advertising/wallpaper/downed.gif
Followed closely by this:
http://www.spitfireale.co.uk/advertising/wallpaper/TARGET.gif

Pat
Pat Flannery - 10 Jan 2008 22:25 GMT
> How did the person who bought you the book guess you were interested in
> Spitfires, Enzo? Did you perhaps leave a hint or two lying around the house?
>  

(Cut to image of twelve unbuilt Spitfire models tucked in a corner, a
DVD copy of the movie "Spitfire" playing on a TV with a 21st Century
Toys 1/18th scale Spitfire suspended over it, and Enzo watching it while
wearing a RAF pilot's helmet and goggles and making Merlin engine
noises.) :-D

Pat
Enzo Matrix - 10 Jan 2008 22:37 GMT
>> How did the person who bought you the book guess you were interested
>> in Spitfires, Enzo? Did you perhaps leave a hint or two lying around
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> while wearing a RAF pilot's helmet and goggles and making Merlin
> engine noises.) :-D

You've hidden a webcam in my house, haven't you?!?!?

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Enzo

I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.

Pat Flannery - 11 Jan 2008 01:38 GMT
> You've hidden a webcam in my house, haven't you?!?!?
>  
(Enzo looks up to see 1/700 scale Ar-234 circling ceiling light.) ;-)

Pat
someone@some.domain - 10 Jan 2008 23:42 GMT
>> How did the person who bought you the book guess you were interested in
>> Spitfires, Enzo? Did you perhaps leave a hint or two lying around the house?
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>
>Pat

did that movie have david niven and leslie howard?
Pat Flannery - 11 Jan 2008 01:46 GMT
>> (Cut to image of twelve unbuilt Spitfire models tucked in a corner, a
>> DVD copy of the movie "Spitfire" playing on a TV with a 21st Century
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> did that movie have david niven and leslie howard?
>  

Yup, also known as "The First Of The Few":
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0034734/
Keep an eye peeled for it on VHS or DVD sales tables - it's public
domain so can be had on the cheap.
One VHS version I saw came with the movie "Dambusters" on the same tape.
The films of the Supermarine seaplane racers in it are very interesting;
boy, were those things streamlined.

Pat
kim - 11 Jan 2008 01:54 GMT
>>> (Cut to image of twelve unbuilt Spitfire models tucked in a corner,
>>> a DVD copy of the movie "Spitfire" playing on a TV with a 21st
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> tape. The films of the Supermarine seaplane racers in it are very
> interesting; boy, were those things streamlined.

They were effectively flying radiators with most of the interior being
devoted to removing excess heat from the engine. That's why it took so long
to incorporate the technology into a production fighter.

(kim)
someone@some.domain - 11 Jan 2008 03:45 GMT
>>> (Cut to image of twelve unbuilt Spitfire models tucked in a corner, a
>>> DVD copy of the movie "Spitfire" playing on a TV with a 21st Century
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
>Pat
i actually have a vhs of the spitfire movie somewhere in the pile.
i love dambusters, especially the high tech, big money flak tracers they did
by making scratches on the film. and that classy pencil thick outline
superimposition of plane-upon-background. they must have spent MANY thousands
of pennies on those special effects.
my revell dambuster kit would have been more realistic, but outside of the
buck ninety eight they spent on production vlaues, it was pretty accurate. the
story line, i mean
maiesm72@netscape.com - 11 Jan 2008 07:40 GMT
On Jan 10, 7:45 pm, some...@some.domain wrote:> In article
<13odilhck9nc...@corp.supernews.com>, flan...@daktel.com wrote:> >
>some...@some.domain wrote:> >>> (Cut to image of twelve unbuilt
Spitfire models tucked in a corner, a> >>> DVD copy of the movie
"Spitfire" playing on a TV with a 21st Century> >>> Toys 1/18th scale
Spitfire suspended over it, and Enzo watching it while> >>> wearing a
RAF pilot's helmet and goggles and making Merlin engine> >>>
noises.) :-D> > >>> Pat> > >> did that movie have david niven and
leslie howard?> > >Yup, also known as "The First Of The Few":> >http://
www.imdb.com/title/tt0034734/> >Keep an eye peeled for it on VHS or
DVD sales tables - it's public> >domain so can be had on the cheap.>
>One VHS version I saw came with the movie "Dambusters" on the same
tape.> >The films of the Supermarine seaplane racers in it are very
interesting;> >boy, were those things streamlined.> > >Pat> > i
actually have a vhs of the spitfire movie somewhere in the pile.> i
love dambusters, especially the high tech, big money flak tracers they
did> by making scratches on the film. and that classy pencil thick
outline> superimposition of plane-upon-background. they must have
spent MANY thousands> of pennies on those special effects.> my revell
dambuster kit would have been more realistic, but outside of the> buck
ninety eight they spent on production vlaues, it was pretty accurate.
the> story line, i mean- Hide quoted text -> > - Show quoted text -
Slightly OT: Don't have any Spitfire Ale, but I have a bottle of Rare
Beer! Can't have alcohol, so it stays unopened.The home brewer was
named Tom Young, so you know it must be great beer!  :-)Tom
Pat Flannery - 11 Jan 2008 11:15 GMT
> i actually have a vhs of the spitfire movie somewhere in the pile.
> i love dambusters, especially the high tech, big money flak tracers they did
> by making scratches on the film. and that classy pencil thick outline
> superimposition of plane-upon-background. they must have spent MANY thousands
> of pennies on those special effects.
>  

That was the state-of-the-art at the time.
BTW, that movie and 633 Squadron became the basis for the attack on the
Death Star in  the original Star Wars.
They took the flying down the fjord aspect of 633 Squadron and turned it
into flying down the Death Star trench, and added the AA guns shooting
at the attacking planes from Dambusters and turned the guns into
turbolasers.
In 633 squadron they had to hit a specific spot on a mountainside with
their earthquake bombs; in SW they had to hit a specific point on the
Death Star's surface with their proton torpedoes.
In Dambusters, you knew you were at the right distance from the dam when
it filled the distance between the two vertical nails on the
bombardier's sighting stick; in SW you were ready to fire when the
display in the sighting device in the X-Wings lined up right and the two
vertical lines joined.
Rumor had it that Peter Jackson (who is a major early military aircraft
fan) was going to redo Dambusters, but he says that's not the case. If
they ever do  film it again, they will have to avoid mentioning the real
name of squadron commander Guy Gibson's dog, which is the dread "N"
word. The dog died before the raid, but its name lived on as the radio
codeword for the successful destruction of the Mohne dam.

> my revell dambuster kit would have been more realistic, but outside of the
> buck ninety eight they spent on production vlaues, it was pretty accurate. the
> story line, i mean
>  

Sink The Bismarck is also a well done film.

Pat
kim - 11 Jan 2008 13:02 GMT
>>>> (Cut to image of twelve unbuilt Spitfire models tucked in a
>>>> corner, a DVD copy of the movie "Spitfire" playing on a TV with a
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> of the buck ninety eight they spent on production vlaues, it was
> pretty accurate. the story line, i mean

You've gotta love that line:

Is there any reason the Air Ministry would lend *you* a Wellington?

Barnes Wallis: Well, you might try telling them I designed it!

(kim)
 
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