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Model Forum / General / Models / January 2008lindberg ju 87
ok, three more comments and i'll shut up. the fit is amazing. little to no putty will be needed. the directions show how to place the swastikas. none are included. no dates on the instructions. i broke down and bought aftermarket. the eduard's ju 87 detail kit for the hasegawa was cheap. i'll see if i can mod it. total cost for kit and details has now hit $21! i think i have some swastickers. > ok, three more comments and i'll shut up. > the fit is amazing. little to no putty will be needed. > the directions show how to place the swastikas. none are included. no dates on > the instructions. > It's a very old kit. Late 1950's-early 1960's. Originally there was a electric motor in the cowling. > i broke down and bought aftermarket. the eduard's ju 87 detail kit for the > hasegawa was cheap. i'll see if i can mod it. total cost for kit and details > has now hit $21! > Now, a piece of advice. Buy the Hasegawa Ju-87 and use the Eduard parts on that, as their fit will be far better and the finished model will look right. Back when I was posting about new Lindberg subs and the old Lindberg aircraft kits, I almost mentioned the POS Stuka kit which I had as a teenager, and in retrospect should have mentioned it as a warning to all. It may be the most inaccurate of all their model aircraft. Pat >> ok, three more comments and i'll shut up. >> the fit is amazing. little to no putty will be needed. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > >Pat you're missing my points, pat. so i will explain better than i did before. this is a nostalgia build. with a chance to check out current lindberg practices. it's also an experimant in a budget build. doing it for $21 is part of the fun. i have the trop version of the hasegawa and it is as nice as you say. i also believe the nose was reworked. it's a different size and shape than my 80's oldie. if not, correction on the kit is no big deal. putty and putty. same with the wings. i believe i can, with moderate skills, make this the ju87 version i want and i will make it look good. i believe they were aware of the old versions problems. the fit between the two is vastly different. i appreciate your insights, but they aren't really my reality. >>> ok, three more comments and i'll shut up. >>> the fit is amazing. little to no putty will be needed. [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] >two is vastly different. >i appreciate your insights, but they aren't really my reality. oops, should say i believe the lindberg nose was reworked. i wasn't clear. As for the original date I want to say prior to 1956 'cause that's when I built one! Cookie Sewell >As for the original date I want to say prior to 1956 'cause that's >when I built one! > >Cookie Sewell damn cookie, that must have been one of their earliest kits. i'm even more impressed that they have reworked it as much as they have. but pat is right about the wings. the nose is good for a b but the wings are good for nothing. i'm going to see if a basic cut and realign works. the flaps will need corrected connection points and the drive brakes are suspect. a lot of people would bale for a shake and bake kit, but this won't be that hard and will challenge my skills. got to love william greens 10 volume aircraft of ww2. it has good line drawings that can easily be scaled up. > damn cookie, that must have been one of their earliest kits. i'm even more > impressed that they have reworked it as much as they have. > This brings up a interesting question - when was Lindberg models founded? Paul Lindberg used to be in charge of the model section at Popular Aviation magazine: http://tinyurl.com/2ojvw7 That's from 1935. Did they ever make balsa and tissue aircraft? They were in the plastic model business by 1952, when they brought out their Flying Saucer model, which was the first sci-fi model:http://www.fantastic-plastic.com/Lindberg%20Flying%20Saucer%20Page.htm Considering how primitive that model was, it must have been one of their first efforts. Pat > > damn cookie, that must have been one of their earliest kits. i'm even more > > impressed that they have reworked it as much as they have. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Pat The first kit was the F-80 and it came out under the O-lin name. It was quite simple and consisted of less than 20 parts including pilot figure. Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. >> They were in the plastic model business by 1952, when they brought out >> their Flying Saucer model, which was the first sci-fi [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > figure. > Do you know what year that one came out? Pat > This brings up a interesting question - when was Lindberg models founded? > Paul Lindberg used to be in charge of the model section at Popular [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Considering how primitive that model was, it must have been one of their > first efforts. Pat - I don't know for sure about tissue and balsa, but I DO know that before Paul Lindberg kits, he had an interest in O-Lin kits, in fact many of the earliest Lindberg kits were O-Lin repops, like the Stinson Station Wagon, the Cub and the Ercoupe. I have seen O-Lin advertisments in old Air Trails magazines dating back to 1946. Now it I could find their "General" locomotive..... I had always been under the impression that the "lin" in O-lin had to do with Lindberg's name...weren't his first kits a sub and a UFO? > Pat - I don't know for sure about tissue and balsa, but I DO know that > before Paul Lindberg kits, he had an interest in O-Lin kits, in fact > many of the earliest Lindberg kits were O-Lin repops, like the Stinson > Station Wagon, the Cub and the Ercoupe. I have seen O-Lin > advertisments in old Air Trails magazines dating back to 1946. Now it > I could find their "General" locomotive..... > I had always been under the impression that the "lin" in O-lin had to > do with Lindberg's name...weren't his first kits a sub and a UFO? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > - Show quoted text - The submarine was Varney.... >> This brings up a interesting question - when was Lindberg models founded? >> Paul Lindberg used to be in charge of the model section at Popular [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >advertisments in old Air Trails magazines dating back to 1946. Now it >I could find their "General" locomotive..... i remember the ads for that kit. i would build one, too. On Jan 18, 11:29 am, some...@some.domain wrote: > >Pat - I don't know for sure about tissue and balsa, but I DO know that > >before Paul Lindberg kits, he had an interest in O-Lin kits, in fact > >many of the earliest Lindberg kits were O-Lin repops, like the Stinson > >Station Wagon, the Cub and the Ercoupe. I have seen O-Lin > >advertisments in old Air Trails magazines dating back to 1946. Now it > >I could find their "General" locomotive..... > i remember the ads for that kit. i would build one, too. I found one from a company called Northwestern (aka Nor-West) that made one in about 1:48 (O guage) scale. They made an engine/tender set and a complete Civil War-era train. The former is on my to-do list as a Civil War Armored Train (okay, it's fantasy), the latter as a standard mixed passenger/freight train of the 1870s. They show up on ePay from time to time and aren't too expensive as they're generally overlooked. However, I DON'T know if they're the molds as the O-Lin. >On Jan 18, 11:29=A0am, some...@some.domain wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >they're generally overlooked. >However, I DON'T know if they're the molds as the O-Lin. tanks On Jan 18, 10:08 am, some...@some.domain wrote: > In article <0cc15b73-66f3-47c4-a402-80245e678...@f10g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, The Old Man <Braung...@verizon.net> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Lindberg started with balsa kits in 1933. O-Lin was named for the owners, Olson and Lindberg and hit the market with six plastic 1/48 racing aircraft in 1948. Their Stinson was first produced by Empire Plastics, who also did a 1/40 F-84F, some of the very first plastic kits ever produced in the U.S. The first plastic airplane "kits" in the U.S. were two Renwal toy airplanes, a 1/130th Y1B-17 and a Martin Mars in 1/289th. The only reason that these were considered kits was the need to put the props and wheels onto the uper and lower halves of the models. The wing floats for the Mars were also seperate. I have them both and they are, indeed, toys, but toys with a history and actually quite attractive. The Mars is in an attractive metalic green with gold props and (vroom- vroom) roll on the floor wheels. The B-17 is in a streaky OD with hints of red, white and black. Anybody else miss John Burns and his KCC? Tom > As for the original date I want to say prior to 1956 'cause that's > when I built one! > > Cookie Sewell Me, too! Remember the bomb crutch, that would work sometimes, if you didn't glue it? Don H. > As for the original date I want to say prior to 1956 'cause that's > when I built one! > > Cookie Sewell > Remember those gawdawful build-it-yourself electric motors? Did you ever get one of those to work? I never did. They even had one or more jets with those in them to make a "jet" sound, a odd idea Monogram brought back on the original release of their B-52 in 1/72 scale. Pat Glad I'm not the only one that never had any luck with the damn things.Still were fun kits. > Remember those gawdawful build-it-yourself electric motors? > Did you ever get one of those to work? I never did. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Pat >Glad I'm not the only one that never had any luck with the damn >things.Still were fun kits. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> >> Pat that feature remains but is unmentioned in the rerelease. i'll glue it tight.... > >>> ok, three more comments and i'll shut up. > >>> the fit is amazing. little to no putty will be needed. [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > >i appreciate your insights, but they aren't really my reality. > oops, should say i believe the lindberg nose was reworked. i wasn't clear. I can say that the trunklid of a '66 Comet reworked my nose once. Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. ;) >> In article <1lMjj.15406$392.2908@fe09.news.easynews.com>, someone@some.domain > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] >Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. >;) indeed. the misfire of a bsa goldstar whilst kickstarting it introduced me to powerless flight. i was lucky, they can break legs. hence the golden rule, tune your thumper! |
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