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Model Forum / General / Models / February 2008A new low: 11 messages
Wow, there were only 11 new messages on the group today. I wonder if this is a new low. I can remember when rms had 200=300 new messages a day. There was a lull in the summer, but everyone said that was merely the season, and traffic would pick up in the winter. Are modelers a dying breed, or is it just that everyone has deserted rms for genre-specific web discussion groups? Building all genres, I always opposed moves to split rms. Now, even though it has not split, the effect seems to be the same :-( on 2/2/2008 9:13 AM Don Stauffer in Minnesota said the following: > Wow, there were only 11 new messages on the group today. I wonder if > this is a new low. I can remember when rms had 200=300 new messages a [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > I have 13 for the 1st, and you're the 6th today.  SignatureBill In Hamptonburgh, NY To email, remove the double zeroes after @ > on 2/2/2008 9:13 AM Don Stauffer in Minnesota said the following: >> Wow, there were only 11 new messages on the group today. I wonder if [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> > I have 13 for the 1st, and you're the 6th today. The really bad news is about 50% of them are mine. ;-) Everyone must be busy loading shot for the groundhog. You mean your not supposed to kill 'em? Hell that's why I trick them with a shadow! If ya hadn't heard, the little fat rat Phil saw his today. Bastard. Of course I'm seeing mine too - it's going to hit 60 here today. Joy. WmB >Wow, there were only 11 new messages on the group today. I wonder if >this is a new low. I can remember when rms had 200=300 new messages a [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Building all genres, I always opposed moves to split rms. Now, even >though it has not split, the effect seems to be the same :-( Ah, the good old days. :-) I almost never post here anymore, but I do still read it everyday. Heck, I haven't even built anything in over a year. Can't even afford to buy more than one or two car models a year right now, and my real stash is still out in Phoenix. The last model I actually completed was a biplane, and that wasn't even painted.My wife was always saying I never built anything I bought, so I bought and built that one(was only like $3 on clearance) just to prove I could. I spent a lot of money getting my 1:1 1969 Mustang kit (still missing pieces) moved here to Akron a year ago, and it is just sitting in the garage(an unheated un-electified garage, not the best thing to have in Ohio in winter) I do think you are right about people going to more specific sites. This has become almost completely an aircraft group. Not that it wasn't the majority before, but of the people still posting here regularly it seems that those are the ones left. There used to be a decent mix of all types, even figures. I haven't gone to the car sites yet much. Don't even know of many. Haven't felt the need to look for them. I will read the ScaleAuto site when I get the monthly email from them, but I seem to forget about them otherwise. I always liked the group here, with the TPC, Dan's Mon-Key, people selling boxes of left over parts cheap, and all the stuff we used to have fun with. I guess I just stick around for nostalgia, and hoping that something fun happens. Kind of like going to an old neighborhood and hoping you run into a friend. Even if you don't, you still get a good feeling. russ >>Wow, there were only 11 new messages on the group today. I wonder if >>this is a new low. I can remember when rms had 200=300 new messages a [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > russ Amen. WmB Although the number of messages has dropped, I still regard this as the best of the groups that I subscribe to. If I need information that my references can't provide, this is the first place that I think of as a source of well informed help. I'd hate to be without it; good friends are worth keeping. Gordon McLaughlin >>>Wow, there were only 11 new messages on the group today. I wonder if >>>this is a new low. I can remember when rms had 200=300 new messages a [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > > WmB > Although the number of messages has dropped, I still regard this as the best > of the groups that I subscribe to. If I need information that my references [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > " WmB" <HELLinh...@earthlink.net> wrote in message I went to the "Hope it Doesn't Snow" show in Rochester, MN yesterday. Rode with two friends. I asked about rms. Both used to subscribe but both have moved away. They seem to prefer genre-specific web discussion groups. Of course, that means they each have to check several other sites a day. If you are looking for stuff on airbrushes, glue, or other general stuff, you need to hunt around a lot. I'm sticking here. One group, many subtopics. I'll stay till it gets to one or zero messages per day. But, with the low number of posts, it is not as great a resource as it used to be. I still talk it up at club meetings and such, though. > Wow, there were only 11 new messages on the group today. I wonder if > this is a new low. I can remember when rms had 200=300 new messages a [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Building all genres, I always opposed moves to split rms. Now, even > though it has not split, the effect seems to be the same :-( Whre else can you get tips, questions answered, cat stories, wife stories, updates on stuff happening around the world, and (unfortunately) the troll crap? All with humor and civility - mostly (grinning) Many never found their way back here when AOL, MSN, etc. ended their support for newsgroups. That is a real shame. As indicated above this is a nice little community. I will continue to support it until it goes away (:> >Many never found their way back here when AOL, MSN, etc. ended their >support for newsgroups. That is a real shame. As indicated above >this is a nice little community. I will continue to support it until >it goes away (:> and i will continue to rant, post off and on topic and be a gadfly. sos. > >Many never found their way back here when AOL, MSN, etc. ended their > >support for newsgroups. That is a real shame. As indicated above > >this is a nice little community. I will continue to support it until > >it goes away (:> > > > and i will continue to rant, post off and on topic and be a gadfly. sos. "Dang, I bought a Lindberg kit of a guitar!" Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. >> In article >> <32f9e084-e14d-4a10-90c4-64ee3d16f035@c23g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. And you think you got troubles... I just bought a kit of a Lindberg guitar... RobG (the Aussie one) >>> In article >>> <32f9e084-e14d-4a10-90c4-64ee3d16f035@c23g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >RobG >(the Aussie one) ship it over! > ship it over! Not a chance - it's my nightmare, I paid for it and by crikey I'm gonna suffer for it! RobG (the Aussie one) >> In article > <32f9e084-e14d-4a10-90c4-64ee3d16f035@c23g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>, Count [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. ha! i bought three of those and eleben 234's, twenty 335's, and a buttload of lindberg stuff i can;t even name. more! > Wow, there were only 11 new messages on the group today. I wonder if > this is a new low. I can remember when rms had 200=300 new messages a [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Building all genres, I always opposed moves to split rms. Now, even > though it has not split, the effect seems to be the same :-( Funny, I have about 35 messages here. As far as specific sites, I know of them but I don't go there much and don't enjoy myself as much there as I do here. We have picked up one or two new people here. I don't think we're going to wither away completely. We'll probably maintain this level of hardcore wackos. :) Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. > > Wow, there were only 11 new messages on the group today. I wonder if > > this is a new low. I can remember when rms had 200=300 new messages a [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. Hmmm. I stopped using my ISP and a newsreader because I found I was not getting all the messages. I am now using the Google Group interface. Looks like GG is ALSO not getting all the messages. I tried several other third party servers, none of which worked very well. I am at a loss now on how to get to Usenet and get all the messages! >> > Wow, there were only 11 new messages on the group today. I wonder if >> > this is a new low. I can remember when rms had 200=300 new messages a [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >well. I am at a loss now on how to get to Usenet and get all the >messages! quite simple, pay the 10 lousy bucks a month for a real news server. you are getting what you pay for. usenet isn't free anymore. i reccomend easy news because they have an online server if you want tunes or movies. and they get the mesages. On Feb 3, 10:52 am, some...@some.domain wrote: > In article <0ae99608-ea65-4d72-9832-55d0fb27e...@v29g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, Don Stauffer in Minnesota <stauf...@usfamily.net> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > movies. > and they get the mesages. Google groups works just fine for me and it's FREE!!!! >On Feb 3, 10:52 am, some...@some.domain wrote: >> In article [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > >Google groups works just fine for me and it's FREE!!!! today. On Feb 2, 6:13 am, Don Stauffer in Minnesota <stauf...@usfamily.net> wrote: > Wow, there were only 11 new messages on the group today. I wonder if > this is a new low. I can remember when rms had 200=300 new messages a [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Building all genres, I always opposed moves to split rms. Now, even > though it has not split, the effect seems to be the same :-( I think the OT political crap last time around pretty much killed the group. Well, that and a prominent member having the extreme discourtesy of dying. :( E.P. > On Feb 2, 6:13 am, Don Stauffer in Minnesota <stauf...@usfamily.net> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > I think the OT political crap last time around pretty much killed the > group. Killfiles are great, I pity those poor soulless ones who have to read Usenet on non-compliant readers for one reason or other. If you have such a reader, drop me an email so I can at least suggest you a replacement that will make Usenet more enjoyable. The fact is, for mainly-text information, Usenet is still king for speed and simplicity. Cheers, Gernot SignatureBOFH excuse #90: Budget cuts > > On Feb 2, 6:13 am, Don Stauffer in Minnesota <stauf...@usfamily.net> > > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > mainly-text information, Usenet is still king for speed and > simplicity. Will a good reader add more quality posts to the group? No? People left and didn't come back. Hell, I left for a while myself. When the group was flooded with OT crap, no amount of killfiles would have increased the signal. E.P. >> > On Feb 2, 6:13 am, Don Stauffer in Minnesota <stauf...@usfamily.net> >> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > When the group was flooded with OT crap, no amount of killfiles would > have increased the signal. I think you mistakenly attribute low posts solely to those who left. I never left but simply did not post because it was a hassle to wade through tons of OT crap at a time when my newsreader did not allow me the luxury of a working killfile, or I was even denied the luxury of direct Usenet access and had to read via Google Groups <blech>. As far as increasing the signal, no, but I would most certainly have posted more had I been able to find decent threads within seconds. SignatureBOFH excuse #401: Sales staff sold a product we don't offer. > >> > On Feb 2, 6:13 am, Don Stauffer in Minnesota <stauf...@usfamily.net> > >> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > I think you mistakenly attribute low posts solely to those who left. I never assumed that, nor have I even implied that. I know for a fact that at least three people left and never came back, due completely to the low signal:noise. Now I know of two people who left, and then came back. I don't post much any more, because I don't view r.m.s. as a resource any more. Mostly I come back to see how folks are doing. I share my talents in other fora now. > As far as increasing the signal, no, but I would most certainly have > posted more had I been able to find decent threads within seconds. The folks that I talked with who left felt that the "regulars" of the ng, the ones who had lots of info to share, were tied up in the OT threads, which made the ng worthless at the time. Frankly, I agreed with their POV, and agree today. No newsreader or killfile can add content. After a while, if you see no activity in a certain ng, you simply stop going. Killfile or not. I have never needed a killfile to make a group easier to read or post to. All it takes is self-discipline. E.P. >> >> > On Feb 2, 6:13 am, Don Stauffer in Minnesota <stauf...@usfamily.net> >> >> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > any more. Mostly I come back to see how folks are doing. I share my > talents in other fora now. Fair enough. No criticism from my side. >> As far as increasing the signal, no, but I would most certainly have >> posted more had I been able to find decent threads within seconds. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > I have never needed a killfile to make a group easier to read or post > to. All it takes is self-discipline. How is this? I don't read threads I am not interested in, but if you don't use a kill file, that is like not having a spam filter---you simply cannot find what you need. Nothing to do with self-discipline I think. SignatureBOFH excuse #189: SCSI's too wide. In article <4dd6851a-d01d-412d-be49-3c25acf05d07@c4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>, > Wow, there were only 11 new messages on the group today. I wonder if > this is a new low. I can remember when rms had 200=300 new messages a [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Building all genres, I always opposed moves to split rms. Now, even > though it has not split, the effect seems to be the same :-( I think that RMS has just gotten to be the same old stuff over and over. Except for the guys wearing tinfoil on their heads that make period cameos here. The thread about Jewish last names is particularly creepy. Stephen |
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