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Model Forum / General / Models / February 2008pzk4
is there a kit with the skirts? > is there a kit with the skirts? > The ones on the sides and around the turret? Yeah, quite a few of those. Pat >> is there a kit with the skirts? >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Pat which? mins just has the turret. > >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > which? mins just has the turret. > That's odd; most of the time they had both mounted. I did find a photo from around the time of the Battle Of The Bulge with just the turret set mounted though: http://www.panzernet.net/panzernet/fotky/tanky/pz4/048.jpg Here's some pictures of what one looked like with the side armor: http://www.waffenhq.de/panzer/pz4-05.jpg http://www.geocities.com/pentagon/quarters/4635/tanks/pz4/pz4h.jpg http://germandressdaggers.com/Panzer%20mk4%20h.jpg What they are supposed to do is cause bazooka rounds to detonate before they hit the hull of the tank. IIRC on some of the last Panzer IVs the side screens were made of wire screen, not solid metal sheet. Pat on 2/4/2008 5:17 PM Pat Flannery said the following: >> >>> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > set mounted though: > http://www.panzernet.net/panzernet/fotky/tanky/pz4/048.jpg The reason there are no side skirts on that one is because the tank has the track extenders for snow and soft ground, and the side skirts cannot be mounted. > Here's some pictures of what one looked like with the side armor: > http://www.waffenhq.de/panzer/pz4-05.jpg [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Pat  SignatureBill In Hamptonburgh, NY To email, remove the double zeroes after @ >on 2/4/2008 5:17 PM Pat Flannery said the following: >> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >> >> Pat thanks, bill. on 2/5/2008 12:10 PM someone@some.domain said the following: > >> on 2/4/2008 5:17 PM Pat Flannery said the following: [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > thanks, bill. > The widened track on the Mk 4, and others, was called 'Winterketten' (winter track). It may have also been called 'Ostketten' (east(ern) track) which was used on the eastern front and also all Tiger tracks. I don't know if there is a definitive difference between the two, although they look different. SignatureBill In Hamptonburgh, NY To email, remove the double zeroes after @ on 2/3/2008 11:15 PM someone@some.domain said the following: > is there a kit with the skirts? > Yes. I have one. It's an Italaerie (old spelling) 1/35 Pz.Kpfw.IV Ausf. (H). Kit # 218. Shurzen (shields) around the hull and turret. It's at least 25 years old. http://www.willshak.com/Scale_Models/index.html About halfway down the page. SignatureBill In Hamptonburgh, NY To email, remove the double zeroes after @ >on 2/3/2008 11:15 PM someone@some.domain said the following: >> is there a kit with the skirts? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > http://www.willshak.com/Scale_Models/index.html >About halfway down the page. thanks >> Yes. I have one. It's an Italaerie (old spelling) 1/35 Pz.Kpfw.IV Ausf. >> (H). Kit # 218. Shurzen (shields) around the hull and turret. It's at [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > thanks > Here's the Tamiya one: https://www.unitoyzone.com/images/Tam-35209.jpg Here's the perforated mesh side armor plates I mentioned: http://www.combatmission.com/mods/Vehicles/axis/Gordon/PzIVMeshPreview.jpg Some also had these for the armor around the turret. Pat >>> Yes. I have one. It's an Italaerie (old spelling) 1/35 Pz.Kpfw.IV Ausf. >>> (H). Kit # 218. Shurzen (shields) around the hull and turret. It's at [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >Pat same box i have for the tamy, but no skirts for the side. > same box i have for the tamy, but no skirts for the side. > Did you buy it new in a sealed box? Pat >> same box i have for the tamy, but no skirts for the side. >> > >Did you buy it new in a sealed box? > >Pat yep. only thing i can figure is if they were on a solo sprue. but all the turret stuff was there. i want to do a more candid with some damaged and one missing with the rails bolluxed, too. > on 2/3/2008 11:15 PM someone@some.domain said the following: >> is there a kit with the skirts? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > http://www.willshak.com/Scale_Models/index.html > About halfway down the page. I'm pretty sure Tamiya did one also. Monogram had one in 1/32nd scale back in the early 1970s, and DML almost has to have one considering their plethora of Panzer IV kits. Pat >> on 2/3/2008 11:15 PM someone@some.domain said the following: >>> is there a kit with the skirts? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >Pat no skirts on the tamy i have. just the mounts. that's why i'm looking. > no skirts on the tamy i have. just the mounts. > that's why i'm looking. > Eduard had both standard and mesh Shurzen: http://sandlehobbies.com/photoetch/eduard/35/military/eduard35.html http://sandlehobbies.com/photoetch/eduard/35/military/ed35310.html http://sandlehobbies.com/photoetch/eduard/35/military/ed35311.html All sorts of info on the plates over here: http://cs.finescale.com/forums/631170/PrintPost.aspx In a pinch, the side plates could be made out of sheet styrene fairly easily. Pat >> no skirts on the tamy i have. just the mounts. >> that's why i'm looking. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Pat i want to build another that comes with skirts for definite. |
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