A model in a weekend
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Enzo Matrix - 17 Feb 2008 17:59 GMT I know that Eduard have a "Weekend" series, which are simplified kits that can be completed in a couple of days. Has anyone actually completed any kit in a weeked?
Well, I have! *strutt* :-D
Revell 1/72 Hunter F6, using a Quickboost rear fuselage and Xtradecal X72-063 to produce a Republic of Singapore Air Force Hunter FGA.74B. I started it yesterday at about 10am and I've just put the finishing touches to it. I particularly like the way it is in USAF SEA-style camouflage but using British Standard colours. It looks significantly different to other SEA cam aircraft.
The Revell Hunter is ideal as a "weekend" kit.
What's your weekend kit?
 Signature Enzo
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skotnjudi@aol.com - 17 Feb 2008 18:45 GMT > I know that Eduard have a "Weekend" series, which are simplified kits that > can be completed in a couple of days. Has anyone actually completed any kit [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. Takes me a weekend to clear the stuff off my modeling table.
Jules - 17 Feb 2008 21:33 GMT On Feb 17, 9:59?am, "Enzo Matrix" <enz...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I know that Eduard have a "Weekend" series, which are simplified kits that > can be completed in a couple of days. Has anyone actually completed any kit [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. i dont belive you, your a big fat liar.....unless you can prove it with fotos :-)
Enzo Matrix - 17 Feb 2008 21:51 GMT > On Feb 17, 9:59?am, "Enzo Matrix" <enz...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> I know that Eduard have a "Weekend" series, which are simplified [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > i dont belive you, your a big fat liar.....unless you can prove it > with fotos :-) 'cos you can *never* fake digital photos... can you? ;-)
Mind you, I'm starting to wonder what other models could be completed in a weekend. I wonder if an F-15A in Air Superiority Blue would be a candidate.
 Signature Enzo
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Mad-Modeller - 18 Feb 2008 06:20 GMT > > On Feb 17, 9:59?am, "Enzo Matrix" <enz...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> I know that Eduard have a "Weekend" series, which are simplified [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. Not if you have to modify the wingtips to prototype configuration.
Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
Pat Flannery - 18 Feb 2008 11:40 GMT >> Mind you, I'm starting to wonder what other models could be completed in a >> weekend. I wonder if an F-15A in Air Superiority Blue would be a candidate. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. > I saw a F-15 in ASB being transported through our town with the wings detached, probably heading somewhere to be a gate guardian. The camouflage may not have panned out operationally, but it sure looked great.
Pat
Enzo Matrix - 18 Feb 2008 18:42 GMT >> Mind you, I'm starting to wonder what other models could be >> completed in a weekend. I wonder if an F-15A in Air Superiority Blue >> would be a candidate. > > Not if you have to modify the wingtips to prototype configuration. It won't be a prototype. It will be one of the initial deliveries to the 555TFTS. See my post about WolfPak decals.
 Signature Enzo
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crw59@earthlink.net - 18 Feb 2008 04:04 GMT > I know that Eduard have a "Weekend" series, which are simplified kits that > can be completed in a couple of days. Has anyone actually completed any kit [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. best I did was 3 Tamiya Shermans and Stuarts. No paint fully assembled. Those kits are easy. But I do not recommend modeling at 2am to do so. Fingers into x-xacto knives, etc...
Craig
Craig
kim - 18 Feb 2008 04:52 GMT > I know that Eduard have a "Weekend" series, which are simplified kits > that can be completed in a couple of days. Two *days* ?
It's taken me two *years* to buy the superglue to stick the steps back on a Stanier 2-6-2t and I still haven't done it yet!
(kim)
Mad-Modeller - 18 Feb 2008 06:20 GMT > I know that Eduard have a "Weekend" series, which are simplified kits that > can be completed in a couple of days. Has anyone actually completed any kit [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. Last one has to have been sometime in the '60s when I could whip them out, still wet, in an afternoon.
Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
Enzo Matrix - 24 Feb 2008 18:27 GMT I did it again! I completed another model in a weekend.
This time it was a Revell 1/72 Hunter FGA9 - essentially the same kit as last weekend. I used the Quickboost conversion nose and completed it as a Hunter FR10 of IV(AC) Sqn. That is a subject that has been on my "to do" list for a very long time.
Okay... to be honest I started the model late on Friday afternoon and I've only just attached the canopy. I've worked on it over three days but I'm still claiming it as a weekend model. :-D
I think the Revell 1/72 Hunter is an ideal short-term project. If you find yourself in the modelling doldrums, maybe bogged down in a big project, then grab one of these and see if you can knock it out in a weekend. I've completed three of these kits in a month, doubling my Hunter collection. The problem I have now is that I have decals for about another two dozen models and I could very easily get obsessed! :-D
 Signature Enzo
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Gordon McLaughlin - 24 Feb 2008 21:48 GMT Enzo,
Which camera nose did you use? The Quickboost nose that I nearly bought turned out not to be for the FR10. It was for a few FGA9s that had a single nose camera installed for some training purpose late in life. Is there another for the FR10 or did you use the Mk11 nose as originally planned?
Gordon McLaughlin
>I did it again! I completed another model in a weekend. > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > The problem I have now is that I have decals for about another two dozen > models and I could very easily get obsessed! :-D Enzo Matrix - 24 Feb 2008 22:03 GMT > Enzo, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > late in life. Is there another for the FR10 or did you use the Mk11 > nose as originally planned? I used the Quickboost QB 72129 part. It's a clear resin part. It has two etched windows - one either side of the nose - and it certainly looks right when installed.
 Signature Enzo
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Jules - 25 Feb 2008 00:35 GMT > > Enzo, > > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > etched windows - one either side of the nose - and it certainly looks right > when installed. next time (for the first time....i aint finnished a Mbox 2 seater after 5 years) im doing the hunter with a FRS1 nose...
Enzo Matrix - 26 Feb 2008 18:56 GMT >>> Enzo, >>> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > next time (for the first time....i aint finnished a Mbox 2 seater > after 5 years) im doing the hunter with a FRS1 nose... I'm surprised that no one has released a conversion kit of the Hunter T-bird. There are a number of interesting schemes for that one.
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Gordon McLaughlin - 25 Feb 2008 22:37 GMT Thanks, Enzo, I'll give that a try. I'm fighting my way through the Xtrakit Meteor F8 at the moment. Somehow, I've managed to get something out of kilter and I have a lot of rubbing down to do. My fault, I reckon.
Gordon McLaughlin
>> Enzo, >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > etched windows - one either side of the nose - and it certainly looks > right when installed. Enzo Matrix - 26 Feb 2008 18:52 GMT > Thanks, Enzo, I'll give that a try. I'm fighting my way through the > Xtrakit Meteor F8 at the moment. Somehow, I've managed to get > something out of kilter and I have a lot of rubbing down to do. My > fault, I reckon. Well... seeing as it's an MPM kit, it doesn't have any locating pins.
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kim - 26 Feb 2008 01:55 GMT > I did it again! I completed another model in a weekend. > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > project, then grab one of these and see if you can knock it out in a > weekend. Does that include detailing the ejector seat which I've read is pretty bland?
(kim)
Enzo Matrix - 26 Feb 2008 18:55 GMT >> I did it again! I completed another model in a weekend. >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Does that include detailing the ejector seat which I've read is pretty > bland? Seat belts made from tin foil. The cockpit is small so there isn't very much to be seen anyway, especially if you build it with the canopy open, in which case the canopy frame obscures most of the seat.
 Signature Enzo
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kim - 26 Feb 2008 21:59 GMT >>> I did it again! I completed another model in a weekend. >>> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > very much to be seen anyway, especially if you build it with the > canopy open, in which case the canopy frame obscures most of the seat. Have you done a GA11 yet?
http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal5/4301-4400/gal4393_Hunter_Vickers/gal4 393.htm
(kim)
Enzo Matrix - 27 Feb 2008 08:01 GMT > Have you done a GA11 yet? I have the Model Alliance decal sheet http://www.hannants.co.uk/search/?FULL=ML72136
and the conversion kit from FAA models
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FAA-MODELS-HUNTER-PR10-OR-GA11-CONVERSION-FOR-REVELL_W0QQi temZ290167216709QQihZ019QQcategoryZ1189QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQ_trksidZp1638.m1 18.l1247QQcmdZViewItem
or
http://tinyurl.com/38eft2
http://faamodels.co.uk/
So it's only a matter of time! :-D
 Signature Enzo
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Pat Flannery - 28 Feb 2008 01:45 GMT > Have you done a GA11 yet? > > http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal5/4301-4400/gal4393_Hunter_Vickers/gal4 393.htm > Every time I see a photo of a Hunter, I can't get over just how attractive of a aircraft that is. That's one of the best looking aircraft ever made.
Pat
Enzo Matrix - 28 Feb 2008 12:45 GMT >> Have you done a GA11 yet? >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > attractive of a aircraft that is. That's one of the best looking > aircraft ever made. You're right, but that very quality makes it quite a difficult aircraft to model, especially in the smaller scales.
I've found that models of sleek, streamlined aircraft can very easily start to look very toy-like. The eye is drawn to detail and lumpy bits. Long, unbroken curves tend to make the model quite boring. On the other hand, something as ugly as an F-4 almost always looks interesting and convincing as a model.
With aircraft such as the Hunter and Spitfire, it is important to try and break up the clean lines of the aircraft. The later marks of both aircraft work better as models. Griffon Spitfires are nowhere near as sleek as the early versions, while the Hunter FGA9 has all sorts of underwing stores, an odd bump on the rear fuselage and fairings and aerials sprouting herr, there and everywhere. Those can look quite interesting.
But try modelling a Spitfire I or a Hunter Mk1. You have to drop the flaps on the Hunter and model the airbrake slightly drooped. Those early Hunters had a high-gloss finish which also helps to make the finished model look very toy-like. You really need to make a totally flat finish and then *very* carefully introduce a slight eggshell finish. You also need to highlight the panel lines and carry out some subtle weathering. It *is* possible to build a Hunter Mk1 in 1/72 without having it look like a toy, but it's not easy. Likewise with a Spitfire I. You need to droop the elevators, deflect the rudder and show the canopy and cockpit entry hatch open, just to break up the lines a bit.
Another thing that tends to cause a model to look like a toy is a light, uniform colour scheme. Say, a pale grey uppersurface. US Navy jets are very popular, but the classic USN scheme is very difficult to portray convincingly. I've lost count of the number of publicity photos I've seen for the next re-pop of the Hasegawa F-4 (whether in 1/72 or 1/48) that looks like a toy because of the lack of contrast on the uppersurfaces and the gloss finish. You can't just spray the light gull grey on in a single coat and leave it at that. You need to mask off various panels and spray them in a subtly different grey - sometimes two or three shades. Then you need to highlight the panel lines. It takes a lot of work. I've lost count of the number of USN subjects that I built, only to be disappointed with how bland the scheme looked. I eventually gave up on USN subjects and it's only in the past couple of years that I've tried them again. It takes a lot of work but I'm finally starting to produce results that I can be satisfied with.
Oh... and panel lines. What about that F-22? There doesn't seem to *be* any panel lines on the real thing. Even photographs of the real aircraft look like wooden mock-ups. What are the chances of building a convincing small scale model of that?
 Signature Enzo
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Pat Flannery - 28 Feb 2008 19:46 GMT > Oh... and panel lines. What about that F-22? There doesn't seem to *be* > any panel lines on the real thing. Even photographs of the real aircraft > look like wooden mock-ups. What are the chances of building a convincing > small scale model of that? > Ever seen a F-117 close up? It looks like its made out of plywood sheet, like some cheap movie prop. The RAM tape over the junctions of the facets doesn't help either, as that makes it look like its held together with black duct tape. One thing about those super-smooth stealth surfaces like on the F-22 and B-2...it they ever get damaged, they are going to be a bitch to repair.
Pat
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