Navy Aircraft Paint Scheme Question

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William R. Mattil - 21 Feb 2008 23:14 GMT

All,

Can someone shed some light on the following Navy paint scheme

http://www.cybermodeler.net/aircraft/a-4/images/ta-4j_158512-1.jpg

What is/was it called specifically ? I think the other branches, Marines
and Airforce used a very similar scheme as well. Various aircraft have
appeared in this livery and I'm trying to put together list of potential
modeling subjects.

T-28's used this, A-4's and TA-4's, and T-35's as well. Any other
interesting candidates ?

Pretty certain that this was a scheme used for training squadrons. Correct ?

Thanks !

Bill

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Rufus - 22 Feb 2008 00:29 GMT

> All,
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> Bill

T-45, T-34, F9F-8T, NP-3D, after a quick Google search...and I think
I've also seen a variation on it on a TPS DeHavilland Otter at NAS Pax.

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William R. Mattil - 22 Feb 2008 00:36 GMT

> T-45, T-34, F9F-8T, NP-3D, after a quick Google search...and I think
> I've also seen a variation on it on a TPS DeHavilland Otter at NAS Pax.

Rufus,

Thanks a million ..... can you elaborate on the criteria that you used
for your google search ? I actually did try that but came largely blank.

Was this scheme known by a particular name ?

Best Regards

Bill

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Rufus - 22 Feb 2008 01:01 GMT

>> T-45, T-34, F9F-8T, NP-3D, after a quick Google search...and I think
>> I've also seen a variation on it on a TPS DeHavilland Otter at NAS Pax.
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> Bill

I just Googled "USN training aircraft", and did an image search.

I'm not sure the scheme has a particular name, other than commonly being
known as "hi-viz", and used during primary/secondary flight training.
Sometimes variations are also used for arctic/antarctic transit, or
during flight test - usually orange tips over some sort of grey. It's
used on just about every USN aircraft assigned to Training duties from
helos to fixed wing - I also seem to recall seeing some civil twins like
Beech turboprops painted thus up around NAS Corpus Christi, Tx.

Something else you can do is Google photos from USN air stations
assigned to the Training Command - TRAWINGTWO is at NAS Kingsville, NAS
Beeville hosted TRAWING-3, but was closed while I was at Navy Kings, and
NAS Meridian, MS are other jet schools. Try NAS Pensacola as well for
primary trainers, and NAS Corpus for helos/multi-engine.

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CCBlack - 22 Feb 2008 00:51 GMT

> Bill wrote:
> Can someone shed some light on the following Navy paint scheme
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> interesting candidates ?
> Pretty certain that this was a scheme used for training squadrons. Correct ?

Don't forget the T-2 Buckeye's and T-39 Sabreliner's. I don't think
there was a particular name for the paint scheme. It's just a high
visibility arctic red on white scheme favored by training squadrons in
the U.S. Navy. For a little while in the early 1960's, USAF T-38
Talons were painted that way as well. Then they went for an overall
white paint job.

Chris

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John - 24 Feb 2008 01:38 GMT

>> Bill wrote:
>> Can someone shed some light on the following Navy paint scheme
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>Talons were painted that way as well. Then they went for an overall
>white paint job.

Not quite correct. The colors are Insignia White (FS17875) and
International Orange FS12197). The Navy stopped using the red-orange
in the 60's because it faded too fast.

This is the standard scheme on all USN training aircraft from at least
1965 through today. T-34B, T-34C, T-44, TS-2, TF-9J, T-2A/B/C,
T-28B/C, T-39, T-29, F-11A, TH-1L, TH-57 all carried this scheme.
Exceptions being the bi-centennial schemes in the mid 70's and in the
later 80's and 90's due to a shortage of parts and airframes, the
training command used some standard painted single seat A-4's.

John Alger USN(ret)
1972-1997 // 1310,1320
TA-4J, A-7E, EC-130Q, P-3B

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