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Model Forum / General / Models / March 2008Annoying ebay issue
so I sell a kit on 1/1/08. after no contact from "buyer" except for one message saying that he will pay after going thru all the unpaid auction stuff with ebay... so today I get a check with a hard to read ebay # on it with no explanation. I emailed him back that I had already relisted the kit and have mailed it off already. so tell me, is roughly two months of no contact long enough to wait to assume that the buyer has blown off the auction? I don't play the feedback game with deadbeats anymore. I told him that I was going to destroy his check and that was the end of it. I swear in the past 3 months I have encountered more deadbeats than I ever have in my 9 years with ebay.. Craig > so I sell a kit on 1/1/08. after no contact from "buyer" except for > one message saying that he will pay after going thru all the unpaid [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Craig Take it out on the mat :-)  SignatureBOFH excuse #415: Maintenance window broken "Gernot Hassenpflug" wrote in message ... >> I swear in the past 3 months I have encountered more deadbeats than I >> ever have in my 9 years with ebay.. >> >> Craig > > Take it out on the mat :-) Haven't you heard - the only problem on Ebay are sellers, not buyers. ;-) I experienced the same thing before I folded the tent. Early last year it seemed like a real cavalcade of clowns started blowing thru. Time consuming, time wasting - everything from answering the stupidest of questions to hours coaching and hand holding while they tried to process the simplest of brain functions. Thankfully, only a few deadbeats. Better them than scammers. Finally, on the weak assumption that there just might be a corollary between brains and money, I doubled my prices and posted draconian terms. Result? Same clueless quotient as before - 'cept less traffic, less aggravation and better paid to boot. Total sales actually increased - that was nice. I'm convinced (by more than just Ebay) that if people had to pass a test to breed, the human race would die off in 30 years. And that's not counting the guys whose last words are "What's this button do?". 15 if it says "Buy It Now". WmB >> so I sell a kit on 1/1/08. after no contact from "buyer" except for >> one message saying that he will pay after going thru all the unpaid [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >Take it out on the mat :-) beat the reaper! 2 MONTHS???? Hell, I give buyers no more than 2 WEEKS! On Mar 6, 7:16 pm, aikido...@gmail.com wrote: > so I sell a kit on 1/1/08. after no contact from "buyer" except for > one message saying that he will pay after going thru all the unpaid [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Craig > 2 MONTHS???? Hell, I give buyers no more than 2 WEEKS! yeah, that's why I thought that this pain in the a.s was over...kinda like getting a call from an old friend you had hoped you would never see again.... Craig >> =A0 =A0 =A02 MONTHS???? Hell, I give buyers no more than 2 WEEKS! > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Craig i was SURE i went to his funeral! honest. > 2 MONTHS???? Hell, I give buyers no more than 2 WEEKS! Surely if the buyer was that keen on the item that he would bid for it on eBay, then two *minutes* after the auction ended is a reasonable time for payment. I've never sold stuff on eBay, but I have bought lots of stuff. Believe me, I've been there as the auction got into it final few minutes, clicking "refresh" every ten seconds or so... as soon (or if... ) as I win, I pay for the item. So far, I've only had one item that required a cheque and that was in the post the morning after the auction ended. It's the only fair way to deal with people. SignatureEnzo I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. > so I sell a kit on 1/1/08. after no contact from "buyer" except for > one message saying that he will pay after going thru all the unpaid [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Craig Try my site www.modelersswapmeet.com it is very easy and free for a limited time when we do charge the cost will be 10% of what Ebay charges and so far no dead beats cheers John Geigle On Mar 6, 5:16 pm, aikido...@gmail.com wrote: > so I sell a kit on 1/1/08. after no contact from "buyer" except for > one message saying that he will pay after going thru all the unpaid [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Craig ...and you can't even leave them negative feedbacks anymore! Isn't eBay great?! What is this world coming to?! Peteski >On Mar 6, 5:16 pm, aikido...@gmail.com wrote: >> so I sell a kit on 1/1/08. after no contact from "buyer" except for [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > >Peteski ebay isn't worth dealing with. > >On Mar 6, 5:16 pm, aikido...@gmail.com wrote: > >> so I sell a kit on 1/1/08. after no contact from "buyer" except for [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > ebay isn't worth dealing with. Amen. I quit selling there. Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. >> In article > <2a8467b9-8cc9-4a56-aad8-4e51a1a5160c@d62g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, "Peter [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > >Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. me too. and buying there. On Mar 8, 2:00 am, some...@some.domain wrote: > In article <47D235FC.240B7...@nextline.com>, vze3z...@verizon.net wrote: > >some...@some.domain wrote: [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > - Show quoted text - The new category breakdown makes it harder to browse subject matter. Great deals are still there, but they are getting harder and harder to find. RobG > On Mar 8, 2:00 am, some...@some.domain wrote: > > In article <47D235FC.240B7...@nextline.com>, vze3z...@verizon.net wrote: [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > RobG At one point they asked me to look at their new set-up for an opinion. I told them it was very cluttered and hard to see what I was looking at. I like to simplicate and add lightness. They apparently didn't hear what they wanted and File 13'd my opinion. Eh. Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. Never bought or sold on e-bay. I post here when I want to sell or trade something. If it does not sell I put it aside for local IPMS getogethers. I also trade with a couple of trusted guys, one in Scotland, one in Italy. Now I need one in Japan. My son, Noel, is getting married there in May, so I may be able to work some connections.BTW, is there a source for easy to deal with shops in Japan? I'm looking especially for Disney-themed airliners and some odds and ends.Once I know exactly where I'll be for the wedding I can start searching.TomOn Mar 8, 11:03 pm, Mad-Modeller <checkrepl...@nextline.com> wrote:> - Hide quoted text -> > - Show quoted text -> > RobG wrote:> > > On Mar 8, 2:00 am, some...@some.domain wrote:> > > In article <47D235FC. 240B7...@nextline.com>, vze3z...@verizon.net wrote:> > > >some...@some.domain wrote:> > > > >> In article> > > > <2a8467b9-8cc9-4a56-aad8-4e51a1a51...@d62g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, "Peter> > > > W." <pete...@my-deja.com> wrote:> > > >> >On Mar 6, 5:16 pm, aikido...@gmail.com wrote:> > > >> >> so I sell a kit on 1/1/08. after no contact from "buyer" except for> > > >> >> one message saying that he will pay after going thru all the unpaid> > > >> >> auction stuff with ebay...> > > > >> >> so today I get a check with a hard to read ebay # on it with no> > > >> >> explanation. I emailed him back that I had already relisted the kit> > > >> >> and have mailed it off already.> > > > >> >> so tell me, is roughly two months of no contact long enough to wait to> > > >> >> assume that the buyer has blown off the auction? I don't play the> > > >> >> feedback game with deadbeats anymore. I told him that I was going to> > > >> >> destroy his check and that was the end of it.> > > > >> >> I swear in the past 3 months I have encountered more deadbeats than I> > > >> >> ever have in my 9 years with ebay..> > > > >> >> Craig> > > > >> >....and you can't even leave them negative feedbacks anymore! Isn't> > > >> >eBay great?! What is this world coming to?!> > > > >> >Peteski> > > > >> ebay isn't worth dealing with.> > > > >Amen. I quit selling there.> > > > >Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.> > > > me too. and buying there.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -> > > The new category breakdown makes it harder to browse subject matter.> > Great deals are still there, but they are getting harder and harder to> > find.> > > RobG> > At one point they asked me to look at their new set-up for an opinion.> I told them it was very cluttered and hard to see what I was looking at.> I like to simplicate and add lightness. They apparently didn't hear> what they wanted and File 13'd my opinion. Eh.> > Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. I say in my auction description that payment must be received within 10-days. I only take Money Order or Cashiers Check. Do buyers abide by that? Well, most of them do, but I get people every once in a while that I have to pester with reminders, threats of negative feedback, etc. It won't kill me if someone doesn't pay on time, but it starts to get pretty annoying when there is no response from people who need to pay. Two months is VERY generous! I might go three weeks max before relisting. And, yeah, like other people are saying here, the rules changes lately are a pisser. There is just such a large audience to sell to, and such a large choice of stuff to buy, it's hard to leave. (maybe I need an intervention) :-) > so I sell a kit on 1/1/08. after no contact from "buyer" except for [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Craig > I say in my auction description that payment must be received within > 10-days. I only take Money Order or Cashiers Check. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > starts to get pretty annoying when there is no response from people who need > to pay. Regarding money order, cashier's check... why not require paypal? If they don't have an address to mail to, they can't rightly send anything but paypal. If they don't want to play by that rule, they don't have to play at all. > Two months is VERY generous! I might go three weeks max before relisting. Yeah it is. I just had a seller disappear into thin air. I had paid via paypal and they were able to recover the funds for me. Had I paid by check or whatever, it'd be just gone. How long? He was supposed to get box to me by Jan 8, 2008, and I started emailing him about it about a week after the package didn't show up. Since I never got a single response, I used the paypal resolution center. Sent multiple emails to him via paypal so they had a record of it, and after the resolution period was over, paypal decided in my favor. The seller never replied to any emails. It took until middle of February for the funds to be back at my credit card. ---- Stephen > so I sell a kit on 1/1/08. after no contact from "buyer" except for > one message saying that he will pay after going thru all the unpaid [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Craig Just had a similar problem myself. I tried to contact him direct a few times, then thru eBay and filed a complaint with eBay. Nothing. So I left negative feedback, relisted the kit and sold it at a slightly lower price. Then he e-mails and wants to pay for they kit. I politely told him what I did; for all I know he had been hospitalized. The SOB then left negative feedback on me! Said I never tried to contact him, etc. So from now on, since I can't leave negative feedback on buyers, I'll just ignore the ones who don't pay. If they send a check, as this guy did with you, I'll tear it up but still not contact him. Let HIM try and figure out what's going on. Or maybe just hang on to the check; if he leaves negative feedback cash the check and donate it to charity! Curt >> so I sell a kit on 1/1/08. after no contact from "buyer" except for >> one message saying that he will pay after going thru all the unpaid [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Curt zoobs_01 He claimed "not given the benefit of the doubt. lack of comm. attempted to contact thru ebay" He never claimed he was hospitalized; I was just giving an example. What torques me off is that this is my first permanent negative in well over 1000 transactions. My eBay name is 10fe; I think can still look up the exchange in my feedback. I've had a few good ones. One guy finally e-mailed and said his house was in the middle of an Arizona wildfire and simply could not send payment. I checked; it was. Curt KVPS |
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