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A-24 Dauntless/Banshee

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Greg Heilers - 17 Mar 2008 05:04 GMT
I am in the mood to build Accurate Miniature's
Dauntless, as a USAAF A-24.  Is there a good online
resource for showing the specific detail differences
from the USN/USMC version - such as the tailwheel,
the area where the arrestor hook "was no longer" and
etc?  How about colors?  Was the interior of the dive
brakes painted red on the Army versions?  And was the
A-24 ever deployed to Europe and/or North Africa
(i.e., any possible color schemes besides OD and Gray?)

Thanks

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Bill Shatzer - 17 Mar 2008 05:54 GMT
> I am in the mood to build Accurate Miniature's
> Dauntless, as a USAAF A-24.  Is there a good online
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> A-24 ever deployed to Europe and/or North Africa
> (i.e., any possible color schemes besides OD and Gray?)

The A-24s alternated with the SBD-3s on the El Segundo production line
so I can't imagine that the internal colors differed between the two.

And I think you're pretty much stuck with OD and Gray.  42-54322 was
natural metal but that was an A-24B which had a different cowling than
the A-24s.

Although for something really different, you could build one of the
A-24s used by Multnomah County as mosquito spraying aircraft postwar.
I believe Barrett Tillman's book has a photo of those a/c.

Cheers,
Greg Heilers - 22 Mar 2008 16:33 GMT
>> I am in the mood to build Accurate Miniature's
>> Dauntless, as a USAAF A-24.  Is there a good online
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>
> Cheers,

That sounds intriguing.

I read that a few A-24s were actually in AAF/USAF service
until 1950, as the F-24.  Any idea how these post-war
planes may have been painted and marked?



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Mad-Modeller - 23 Mar 2008 04:05 GMT
> >> I am in the mood to build Accurate Miniature's
> >> Dauntless, as a USAAF A-24.  Is there a good online
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> Registered Linux user #328317 - SlackWare 10.2 (2.6.13)
> AUS

I can't find any pics but the Buzz Code was 'AA'.  If it was carried on
the fuselage side it would have looked like AA-XXX, the Xs being the
last three digits of its serial number.

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
Stephen Bierce - 24 Mar 2008 01:38 GMT
>> I read that a few A-24s were actually in AAF/USAF service
>> until 1950, as the F-24.  Any idea how these post-war
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>
>Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.

Buzz Code would have been "AA" before 1948 and "FA" afterwards.  The system
came about around the time of the end of the War.

Aeroweb.brooklyn.cuny.edu indicates that the post-war Banshees were
modified into drones and drone-director planes.  Since they had post-war
serial numbers, it's likely they were built as Navy Dauntlesses, drawn from
surplus stocks, and modified to that purpose...more than likely going
through a repaint while in depot.  If it were my idea, I'd paint the drone
version in a scheme rather like the RP-63 "Pinball" Kingcobra's, bright
yellow or orange "shoot-me-I-dare-you!" colors.  Not sure if the director
planes had a special scheme of their own.  Chances they were also
high-visibility too.

Stephen "FPilot" Bierce/IPMS #35922
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Mad-Modeller - 24 Mar 2008 04:36 GMT
sbierce wrote:

> Buzz Code would have been "AA" before 1948 and "FA" afterwards.  The system
came about around the time of the end of the War.

According to Fahey, FA was used on the 'F-38' (P-38) until 1949 after
which it was assigned to the F-94 series.

Best investment of $1.50 I ever made back in '66.

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
Stanley Parker - 17 Mar 2008 13:58 GMT
Bert Kinzey's book on the SBD would cover A-24/SBD differences. The only
combat for the A-24 I know of is in the South Pacific on New Guinea. The
book "TheGrim Reapers, Story of the 3rd Bomb Group has accounts of them
flying the A-24.

tan Parker

> I am in the mood to build Accurate Miniature's
> Dauntless, as a USAAF A-24.  Is there a good online
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>
> Thanks
Matt Wiser - 18 Mar 2008 05:33 GMT
"Stanley Parker" <stanleyjohnfinanparker@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

Some made it to Java, where they were shot to pieces along with the other Allied air forces in
the NEI. An A-24 group, the 27th BG (L) was supposed to be in the Philippines, but only the
personnel had made it prior to 8 Dec 41, the planes being diverted to Australia. A few lucky
pilots from the 27th were evac'd to Australia to pick up their birds, with the hope of flying back
to the Philippines. Some made it to Java, others to New Guinea.
 
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