World War Two was not a war between Germany and the Allies
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◄ iamthewitness.com ► - 26 Mar 2008 16:43 GMT Hitler had been doing phenomenally well in turning his country around economically ever since he came to power. He did this by breaking with the Jewish international bankers, and trading by barter, thus bartering the surplus of goods Germany had, with the surplus of goods Germany needed that another country had, without debts being incurred on either side.
He, like Abraham Lincoln before him, simply issued what money was needed on the authority of the German Government, which was backed by the productivity of the German labour force, and not the empty promises of Jewish international bankers, who in a country without debt, could not function.
As a result of this policy, Germany was able to regenerate the social and spiritual life of all its citizens.
As a result of a Germany being run for the benefit of the Germans as oppose to for the benefit of Jewish bankers, the citizens of Germany were able to make Germany the most powerful and prosperous state in Europe in only a seven year period.
The Jews could not let this continue as they knew that it would spell the death of their debt driven money system and so World War 2 starts this year, in earnest. This war is about one thing, which money system would survive. This is not a war between Germany and the Allies, it is a war between Germany and the Jewish money power who are in control of the Allied leadership and use them and their media to propagandize the Allied populous into hatred of the Germans.
The Synagogue of Satan by By Andrew Carrington Hitchcock http://www.iamthewitness.com/books/Andrew.Carrington.Hitchcock/Synagogue.of.Sata n/1936-1948.htm
iamthewitness.com Radio - 26 Mar 2008 16:48 GMT Following the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, there are now only five nations on the world left without a Rothschild owned central bank: Iran; North Korea; Sudan; Cuba; and Libya. Interestingly the satellite state of Israel, more commonly known as the United States government chooses to refer to these countries as, "rogue nations."
The Synagogue of Satan by By Andrew Carrington Hitchcock http://www.iamthewitness.com/books/Andrew.Carrington.Hitchcock/Synagogue.of.Sata n/1936-1948.htm
Lie detector - 26 Mar 2008 17:24 GMT > Hitler had been doing phenomenally well in turning his country around > economically ever since he came to power. He did this by breaking [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > promises of Jewish international bankers, who in a country without > debt, could not function. Long on anti-semitism short on historical fact.
The end of hyperinflation associated with the Weimar Republic was brought about in 1924 by a scheme which was nothing to do with Hitler but was the brainchild of Hjalmar Schlact central banker. The old grossly inflated papiermark was replaced at a rate of 1 trillion to one by a new Reichsmark. The Reichsmark was pegged to a non-negotiable currency called the Rentenmark. This was backed by mortgages against land of which of course there is a limited supply. Holders of Reichmarks could hedge their holdings by converting them into Rentenmarks which they could not spend or (I believe) trade. Thus to spend their Rentenmarks holders had to reconvert them back into Reichsmarks.
In 1924 Hitler was in prison.
The Reichsmark remained in use throughout the pre-war and war period being finally replaced by the Deuschmark in 1948.
Sorry to let historical fact spoil a good propaganda exercise.
parris_k@yahoo.com - 26 Mar 2008 19:21 GMT > > Hitler had been doing phenomenally well in turning his country around > > economically ever since he came to power. He did this by breaking [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Sorry to let historical fact spoil a good propaganda exercise. Similarly, wasn't the economic turnaroud of Hitler's Germany due partly to Schacht's policy of deficit financing? This seems to belie the original post's assertion that it was all built on the productivity of German labour, with no debt in sight..
abelard - 26 Mar 2008 21:21 GMT >> "? iamthewitness.com ?" <dfgsdgt546456...@googlemail.com> wrote in messagenews:d9cc63bd-3097-430b-b287-b64c9fa5c9b8@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... >> [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] >the original post's assertion that it was all built on the >productivity of German labour, with no debt in sight.. yes...there were a slew of errors in the original post so i didn't bother...he's obviously a disturbed fool...
there is a serious analysis...from my hitler page:- http://www.abelard.org/hitler/hitler.htm Silverman, Dan P. Hitlers Economy: Nazi Work Creation Programs, 1933 1936 1998, 0674740718 (hb), $45.00 [amazon.com]
"Hitlers administration has been credited with applying Keynesian-type solutions[19] to the chaos existing in Germany prior to his being raised to Chancellor[19a]; and this is probably a reasonable assessment. Hitler started his government during a low ebb in German economic fortunes. World-wide problems were aggravated in part by the foolish behaviour of the Allies after the First World War. Hitler probably gave confidence to the masses; but some believe recovery was already under way and that statistics were widely falsified (nothing new there!). However, Hitler had a major weapon that was not available in the United States (the other economy in greatest difficulties at the time): coercion."
sweden and britain also had heavy depression difficulties...
regards...
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◄ iamthewitness.com ► - 26 Mar 2008 22:20 GMT 'Long on anti-semitism short on historical fact. '
'Sorry to let historical fact spoil a good propaganda exercise. '
'there were a slew of errors in the original post so i didn't bother...he's obviously a disturbed fool... '
Anyone who isn't a zionist shill want to reply?
abelard - 26 Mar 2008 22:25 GMT On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 14:20:21 -0700 (PDT), ? iamthewitness.com ? <dfgsdgt546456rtg@googlemail.com> wrote:
>'Long on anti-semitism short on historical fact. ' > >'Sorry to let historical fact spoil a good propaganda exercise. ' > >'there were a slew of errors in the original post so i didn't >bother...he's obviously a disturbed fool... '
>Anyone who isn't a zionist shill want to reply? obviously you mean:-
"bugger facts, anyone infected by your mad cult want to reply"
must be lonely in that attic of yours to have you going seeking support for your delusions
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FACE - 26 Mar 2008 22:53 GMT On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 14:20:21 -0700 (PDT), in uk.politics.misc, in thread Re: World War Two was not a war between Germany and the Allies, ? iamthewitness.com ? <dfgsdgt546456rtg@googlemail.com>, wrote
>'Long on anti-semitism short on historical fact. ' > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Anyone who isn't a zionist shill want to reply? I think that you realize that you are completely nuts with this approach to WWII and I think that you know that it has nothing to do with "zionist shill"ing to notice that.
I noticed your post several hours ago and wondered who/what actually believes you. That crypto-jew the pope, maybe?
Keep listening to Alex Jones and Hal Turner and watch out for the black helicopters -- the ones with a red dot on the bottom are from the Black Pope.....
FACE
parris_k@yahoo.com - 27 Mar 2008 09:26 GMT On 26 Mar, 22:20, ◄ iamthewitness.com ► <dfgsdgt546456...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> 'Long on anti-semitism short on historical fact. ' > > 'Sorry to let historical fact spoil a good propaganda exercise. ' > > 'there were a slew of errors in the original post so i didn't > bother...he's obviously a disturbed fool... ' You obviously are. HOw was an economy run on deficit finance "debt free"?
> Anyone who isn't a zionist shill want to reply? I already have, thanks.
◄ iamthewitness.com ► - 27 Mar 2008 09:40 GMT On Mar 27, 8:26 am, parri...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > Anyone who isn't a zionist shill want to reply? > > I already have, thanks. Zionists lie as instinctively and reflexively as genuine people breathe.
Lie detector - 27 Mar 2008 09:49 GMT > On Mar 27, 8:26 am, parri...@yahoo.com wrote: >> > Anyone who isn't a zionist shill want to reply? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Zionists lie as instinctively and reflexively as genuine people > breathe. Who was lying on this occasion?
parris_k@yahoo.com - 27 Mar 2008 11:06 GMT > "? iamthewitness.com ?" <dfgsdgt546456...@googlemail.com> wrote in messagenews:9b5f0a3d-248d-42ad-9176-17d963d4912a@z38g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Who was lying on this occasion? Indeed! As I have stated several times, I think the creation of Israel in 1947 was a bad idea. How this makes me a "Zionist" I really don't know....
parris_k@yahoo.com - 27 Mar 2008 11:04 GMT On 27 Mar, 09:40, ◄ iamthewitness.com ► <dfgsdgt546456...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 27, 8:26 am, parri...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Zionists lie as instinctively and reflexively as genuine people > breathe. Do they?
You appear to have avoided my question, by the way: How was an economy run on deficit finance "debt free"?
◄ iamthewitness.com ► - 27 Mar 2008 10:10 GMT Since the fall of jewish international banking in Russia in 1991 (700,000 Jews left Russia for Israel after the collapse of their communist rule), bartering has made up up to 80% of the economy in some places. You can imagine how Russia has slipped off the Christmas card list of the westrn countries still in the grip of the jewish international bankers.
The Red Pattern of World Conquest http://www.alor.org/Library/RedPatternofWorldConquest.htm It is also true that Hitler's barter trade agreements, instigated in an attempt to obtain raw materials from abroad, also provoked considerable antagonism amongst commercial and financial groups in other countries while his treatment of the Jewish people quite naturally aroused the violent opposition of World Jewry. Whether he was speaking as a financier or as a Jew is not clear, but before the outbreak of war Mr. Bernard Baruch, one of the most powerful men surrounding Roosevelt, insisted that "that fellow Hitler" was going to be "licked". He also said in a release of a report of an interview with Roosevelt in 1939, that, "If we keep our prices down, there is no reason why we shouldn't get the customers from the belligerent nations that they have had to drop because of the war. In that event Germany's barter system will he destroyed."
http://www.savethemales.ca/001707.html The Duke of Windsor: The Duke was forced off the throne, not because of his lady friend but because there were powerful people in England who viewed his pro- Hitler attitude with real anger and some fear. Crystal Night had not happened yet, but it became very obvious to Jewish groups both in England and your country, that their co-religionists in Germany were being mistreated and forced out of the country. I would imagine that this created quite a bloc of anti-Hitler persons in the British banking and finance community. Couple this unpleasant anti-Semitism with Hitler's barter system that bypassed the British banking system with its high-interest international loans, and you can understand the anger and fear directed at the new King.
http://www.bellybuttonwindow.com/1999/russia/invest_in_russia.html In Smolensk, a city near the Belarus border that dates to 863 and was overrun by the armies of Napoleon and Hitler, barter now makes up 80% of the economy, Vyrov said. Arranging trades is a complex and time- consuming business. Many companies have at least one barter specialist whose job is to find trading partners and put together swaps.
◄ iamthewitness.com ► - 27 Mar 2008 10:32 GMT "One of the fundamental causes of this war has been the unrelaxing efforts of Germany since 1918 to secure wide enough foreign markets to straighten her finances at the very time when all her competitors were forced by their own debts to adopt exactly the same course. Continuous friction was in- evitable. Germany adopted a new monetary policy ... after which Germany ceased to experience any financial difficulty."
In England the people suffer the burdens of heavy and increasing taxation, but in Germany, the Times reports:
"Nothing is ever heard of the necessity of increasing tax- ation, compulsory savings, or the issue of enormous public war loans. Quite the contrary. Recently an important tax was abolished. Public savings bank deposits touch new monthly records again and again. Money is so plentiful that the interest rate on Reich loans could recently be reduced from 4-1/2 to 4 per cent.
These changes may well call for drastic readjustments in our established conventions. A hidebound persistence in methods and doctrines which were sound fifty years ago may easily prove as costly in the financial and ecomomic field as actual war. It might not lose the war; it would certainly lose the peace." (London Times, October 11 and 12 and November 13, 1940).
"Germany was trying to break the credit ring of the money monopolists by the force of economic sanity and that was un- forgivable. She was acting like a worker who went on strike against system which deprived him of adequate food supplies though he as quite willing to exchange his labor to pay for them.
"In 1937 Hitler said:
'Germany will enter into no obligations to pay for her im- ports than she is capable of fulfilling. The German Govern- ment thus takes the standpoint of the respectable mer- chant who keeps his orders in harmony with his power to pay. We laugh at the time when our national economists held the view that the value of a currency is regulated by the gold and securities lying in the vaults of a State Bank; and more especially we laugh at the theory that its value was guaranteed thereby. We have instead come to learn that the value of a cur- rency lies in the productive capacity of a nation.
"The world financial monopoly stood aghast. If Germany succeeded in her plan of economic penetration, other nations might follow per example. The whole world would then exchange goods for goods in a basis of equality and good fellowship. No one would want to borrow and the financial pyramid of debt, from the apex of which Almighty Finance ruled the world, would collapse. Humanity would be well fed, but the financiers would lose their power.
"If the German monetary experiment had been allowed to develop on the basis of a friendly exchange of goods it would have provided the world with useful information to assist it in solving its commercial problems.
What was a laudable effort on the part of Germany has become a world war -- a war of ideas in which Hitler strives to form a European economic monopoly opposed to the financial monopolies of the world.
"Statesmen began to prepare the public mind for war. No mention was made of the real causes of the crisis -- the bitter scramble for world markets, the trickery and inhuman methods used to obtain spheres of influence for surplus investments and for increasing the burden of world debt. Statesmen again were preparing to sacrifice the youth of their country on the bloody alter of Mammon.
As in peace, so in war. Humanity must be sacrificed to save a worthless economic system. .
"Once again the peoples were told that if they destroyed the leader of the German nation all would be well with the world. Ger- nany worshipped its leader. Britain trusted its Government. Both peoples believed their leaders would save the world. It was a tragedy of faith in men. One nation has to fight for a new economic and political system the other to preserve the old ones.
Source: AMERICAN MANIFEST DESTINY AND THE HOLOCAUSTS, BY CONRAD GRIEB (Liberty Bell, 1978), pp 233-236
It is a dangerous game to place people above profits. Like Abe Lincoln and President John F. Kennedy, not long after he defied the interests of international finance Adolf Hitler was dead.
The death of Twenty to Fifty Million gentiles is nothing to the jewish criminal bakers when it comes to protecting thier rackets.
parris_k@yahoo.com - 27 Mar 2008 11:05 GMT On 27 Mar, 10:10, ◄ iamthewitness.com ► <dfgsdgt546456...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Since the fall of jewish international banking in Russia in 1991 How does that answer my question: How was an economy run on deficit finance "debt free"?
z - 28 Mar 2008 18:57 GMT On Mar 26, 5:20 pm, ◄ iamthewitness.com ► <dfgsdgt546456...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> 'Long on anti-semitism short on historical fact. ' > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Anyone who isn't a zionist shill want to reply? well, i've been waiting for the check of my cut of the proceeds of the robbery of prewar Germany by the Jews for years. I'm afraid the International Cabal has lost my forwarding address. I'll have to send it my Elder of Zion.
Michael Ceglar - 26 Mar 2008 17:32 GMT On 26 Mrz., 16:43, ◄ iamthewitness.com ► <dfgsdgt546456...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hitler had been doing phenomenally well in turning his country around > economically ever since he came to power. That's simply wrong. 1939 his Reich was almost bankrupt. 1942 half of the german budget was made by robbery in Russia.
Producing nothing but weapons is always economical bullshit.
Michael
Andrew - 27 Mar 2008 15:03 GMT << Heaps of turgid rubbish cut>>
Guys, it's rec.models.scale - how 'bout you take it where it belongs, like 'alt.conspiracy.morons' or 'alt.drugsfuckupmysenseofreality' or 'alt.the.real.world.is.too.hard.so.i.believe.sh.t'.
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willshak - 27 Mar 2008 15:14 GMT on 3/27/2008 10:03 AM Andrew said the following:
> << Heaps of turgid rubbish cut>> > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Everyone forgot to remove the rec.models.scale from the list of groups in the header.
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eyeball - 27 Mar 2008 16:30 GMT > on 3/27/2008 10:03 AM Andrew said the following:> << Heaps of turgid rubbish cut>> > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > In Hamptonburgh, NY > To email, remove the double zeroes after @ Obviously the poster knows the power that modelers have to change the world!
Pat Flannery - 28 Mar 2008 05:44 GMT > Obviously the poster knows the power that modelers have to change the > world! > We don't change it; we _convert_ it! :-)
Pat
The Old Man - 28 Mar 2008 11:06 GMT > > Obviously the poster knows the power that modelers have to change the > > world! > > We don't change it; we _convert_ it! :-) > > Pat I thought that we assimilate.... "We are modelers; resistance is futile....."
someone@some.domain - 28 Mar 2008 15:49 GMT >> Obviously the poster knows the power that modelers have to change the >> world! [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Pat check out my earth mk3! no fat chicks, ;lots of bio fuel and i'm the only guy!
parris_k@yahoo.com - 28 Mar 2008 17:35 GMT On 28 Mar, 15:49, some...@some.domain wrote:
> In article <13uotpvk2r64...@corp.supernews.com>, flan...@daktel.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > check out my earth mk3! no fat chicks, ;lots of bio fuel and i'm the only guy! Are all the chicks resin aftermarket additions though? Make sure you wear a mask...
someone@some.domain - 28 Mar 2008 18:36 GMT >On 28 Mar, 15:49, some...@some.domain wrote: >> In article <13uotpvk2r64...@corp.supernews.com>, flan...@daktel.com wrote: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >Are all the chicks resin aftermarket additions though? Make sure you >wear a mask... no, flesh and flesh.
Mad-Modeller - 31 Mar 2008 04:35 GMT > >> Obviously the poster knows the power that modelers have to change the > >> world! [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > check out my earth mk3! no fat chicks, ;lots of bio fuel and i'm the only guy! And they are all enamoured of each other...;)
Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
iam@the.computer - 27 Mar 2008 18:16 GMT Sounds like someone has his tin-foil hat on too tight. Either that got confused on what the modeling glue is used for. Hint: not for sniffing...
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jaf - 28 Mar 2008 22:32 GMT And FDR brought the US out of the WORLD WIDE depression in the same time frame. Without murdering 6 million Jews. Without murdering 12 million Russians, Poles, Gypsies.
But the really big difference was when it was over. The People of United States of America could hold their heads up and be proud of what they did. The People of United States of America became the worlds first superpower.
And 60 years after, We the People are the only superpower left.
Where are the nazis now? In delusion. Still.
John Free, English speaking, Citizen of The United States of America. Live free or die!
Kurt Knoll - 29 Mar 2008 00:09 GMT There you go goy you are either a blind American or a naive a.shole. Tell us how many wars did America instigate or were involved in since 1945. their excuse hake always been the same and this is for democratize. How many time did the Americans befriend deserve with smaller countries that gave the an excuse to get involved. Don't Kidd yourself is very calculated when it make this decisions. The latest scup I have is the American have rocket bases in Kosovo or was it real planet that way. As one young American said to me in 1945 " America needs wars to keep their economy going. Kurt Knoll.
> And FDR brought the US out of the WORLD WIDE depression in the same time > frame. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Free, English speaking, Citizen of The United States of America. > Live free or die! Kenneth McVay OBC - 29 Mar 2008 02:40 GMT In article <AUeHj.3409$rd2.2286@pd7urf3no>, The Intellectual Leader of Holocaust Revisionism, Kurt Knoll, the reigning Village Idiot of Kitimat, <kknoll3@yahoo.com> wrote:
>There you go goy you are either a blind American or a naive a.shole. Tell us >how many wars did America instigate or were involved in since 1945. their [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Kosovo or was it real planet that way. As one young American said to me in >1945 " America needs wars to keep their economy going. 61 Statements Demonstrating Leading Revisionist Scholar Kurt Knoll's strict adherence to the high intellectual standards of Holocaust denial:
(See http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/k/knoll-kurt/ for the first 56)
57. "Zundel was an rye sore for the Jews nobody else ever did get treated like him. America Canada and Germany are Jewish collaborators but I think the have no other choice." <bvOFj.113560$pM4.36323@pd7urf1no>, March 24, 2008
58. "What evidence ?. THe only evidens we have is the one sold to us by you and the people you represent. You are metally under edjucatet" <fVUFj.113097$w94.2544@pd7urf2no>, March 24, 2008
59. "And how can anyone document anything if they are not getting close enough to the dough." <4tbGj.120093$pM4.8522@pd7urf1no>, Mar. 25, 2008
60. "Replying to his posting shows you how responsive you are. Could it be somebody did step on your does." <H6XGj.709$Cj7.633@pd7urf2no>, March 28, 2008
61. "Only a brain can tell you. Maybe you can tell us who did have sex with the wholly marry I am curious." <CufHj.3469$rd2.986@pd7urf3no>, March 28, 2008
 Signature "By refinishion you i mean you on their side definetly you opinons are." (Kurt Knoll, Kitimat, B.C.'s Leading Revisionist Scholar) The Nizkor Project: http://www.nizkor.org/
Pat Flannery - 29 Mar 2008 09:45 GMT For God's, Allah's, or YHWH's sake guys... this has nothing to do with scale modeling building - so could you _please_ remove the rec.models.scale newsgroup from replies on this thread from all future postings regarding this particular thread? If you want to know how to do a diorama of the Angel Of Death hitting Egypt in 1,500 BC,or the UAR getting hit by the Israeli Air Force in 1967 AD, it's one thing - but shooting the breeze about the Israelis vs the Arabs in a philosophical sense frankly doesn't interest us unless you have detailed info on the camouflage of markings on the aircraft and tanks on both sides during any conflict that you might supply. You get us the straight poop on Syrian MiG-17 camouflage in 1967, and indeed we are interested. Or Egyptian T-54 tank camouflage details from the 1973 war, same thing goes. Other than that, just please cut us out of your replies.
Pat
Kharsis - 29 Mar 2008 02:13 GMT > And FDR brought the US out of the WORLD WIDE depression in the same time > frame. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > And 60 years after, We the People are the only superpower left. Not really correct. The British Empire was the world's first modern superpower.
In ancient/medieeval times it would have been the Persians, then the Greeks, then the Romans, then the Mongols
> Where are the nazis now? > In delusion. Still. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > message > news:d9cc63bd-3097-430b-b287-b64c9fa5c9b8@m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... Kharsis
Bisquik - 29 Mar 2008 17:52 GMT > Hitler had been doing phenomenally well in turning his country around > economically ever since he came to power. He did this by breaking [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > The Synagogue of Satan by By Andrew Carrington Hitchcock > http://www.iamthewitness.com/books/Andrew.Carrington.Hitchcock/Synagogue.of.Sata n/1936-1948.htm What a dumb a.s!
Sincerely, A proud Catholic supporter of Israel! ;)
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