on 3/29/2008 6:20 AM The Old Man said the following:
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>> some...@some.domain wrote:
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> movies. Maybe with Sky Captain going up against them.
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or "Don Winslow of the Navy"

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Pat Flannery - 30 Mar 2008 05:59 GMT
>> These two aircraft really belonged in a Saturday morning serial at the
>> movies. Maybe with Sky Captain going up against them.
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> or "Don Winslow of the Navy"
These are still the cool-looking "Air Adventures" period aircraft it
would be fun to model:
http://home.att.net/~dannysoar4/BillBarnes.htm
Funny someone hasn't done some resin kits of them.
Pat
> Which makes me wonder sometimes....
> That Poll Giant Triplane, the First World War "Amerika Bomber"; was it
> a reality-based project, or some engineer's wet dream to keep himself
> well away from the Western Front? There ~is~ that photo of the
> supposed wheel being held up by the two British officers.
From the Bowers and McDowell book, "Triplanes":
Mannesmann (Poll) Triplane
This giant triplane seems to have been a dying gasp of the
German Air Force. It was meant to carry leaflets across
the Atlantic Ocean to drop on New York City. While the
designer's name seems to be a bit of a mystery, it is believed
that it was the work of Villehad Forssman who had worked
previously for Siemens-Schuckert. The unfinished aircraft
was discovered in a hanger after the Armistance by the
Allied Control Commissions inspection team.
A section of the plane and a wheel 8 feet in diameter where
sent back to England for study. The span of the center wing
was 165 ft (50.3 m); the top and bottom wing were of equal
span but quite a bit smaller. It was to have tandem mounted
engines - eight on the center wing and a pair on the lower
wing. The fuselage was long and slender, mounted between the
center wing directly above the engines on the lower wing.
The fuselage was 150 ft (45.7 m) long.
An eighty-hour flight endurance was planned (editorial
comment: Wow!), and provision was made to carry such a load
of fuel. The overall structure was heavy but extremely
weak. No interal bracing cable was installed, and while it
was covered with two layers of three-ply wood which made it
as heavy as a boat, these did little to add strength. In
addition, the ailerons were too small, the center of gravity
way aft, and the elevators would have been ineffective. So,
it is doubtful it would have flown if it had been completed.
That's all they wrote:
Cheers,
willshak - 29 Mar 2008 19:12 GMT
on 3/29/2008 2:08 PM Bill Shatzer said the following:
>> Which makes me wonder sometimes....
>> That Poll Giant Triplane, the First World War "Amerika Bomber"; was it
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> Cheers,
And the whole thing was to drop leaflets on NYC?
Didn't they know about email? :-)

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Pat Flannery - 30 Mar 2008 06:27 GMT
> And the whole thing was to drop leaflets on NYC?
> Didn't they know about email? :-)
That always sounded odd to me also.
If they wanted to screw things up, they should have loaded it up with
top quality counterfeit money and start dropping that on New York City
in a attempt to collapse the dollar via massive inflation.
Pat
Pat Flannery - 30 Mar 2008 06:22 GMT
>> Which makes me wonder sometimes....
>> That Poll Giant Triplane, the First World War "Amerika Bomber"; was it
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> This giant triplane seems to have been a dying gasp of the
> German Air Force.
It was actually funded by the Brüning und Sohn in concert with the
Deutschebank, with more funds initially coming from the German Navy
according to Gunston's book.
If you want to see it in action, watch "Young Indiana Jones And The
Attack Of The Hawkmen" sometime.
They give it odd looking bat-like wings, but it's really something to
see when it comes in for a landing.
This one is pretty impressive in its own right:
http://wroclaw.hydral.com.pl/foto/111/111069.jpg
That's the Linke-Hofmann R.II.
It looks like a large two-seat recon bomber, but it helps to know that
the prop is 23 feet from tip-to-tip and being driven by four 260 hp
engines mounted inside the fuselage.
Span was 138'.
Pat
> Which makes me wonder sometimes....
> That Poll Giant Triplane, the First World War "Amerika Bomber"; was it
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> movies. Maybe with Sky Captain going up against them.
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In his book "GIANTS Of The Sky" Bill Gunston seems to think it was a
real project, and that it was well-advanced in construction at the end
of the war.
The surviving wheel is stored in The Imperial War Museum... it has a
diameter of 93.5 ". The aircraft's main gear consisted of two-dual wheel
units.
The real mystery planes from the war were the Adlershof Giants... plans
for immense aircraft were found among data from the Zeppelin Company
that was taken to Wright Field after the war.
The biggest of these would make the Poll aircraft look puny... twenty
500 hp engines drive ten propellers (six ahead of the wing and four
pushers) on a twin-fuselaged aircraft boasting a _479'_ wingspan, with
each of the two fuselages being 290' 8" long.
Gunston thinks the design may have actually have been doable, although
the landing gear units were 161 across from outer end to outer end,
making a airfield capable of handling it pretty hard to come by. ;-)
Pat