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Model Forum / General / Models / April 2008Getting old!
I've had a lot of fun putting the stencils on my F-15A. I've done things the way they are done in real life - stencils first, squadron markings after. I'm using the Hasegawa Streak Eagle kit and so the stencils on the kit sheet are suitable for a very early F-15A. The key numbers on the decal sheet are perfectly legible as well. As for the Luftwaffe RF-4E - all the main markings are on. I'm ready to apply the stencils using the Airdoc sheet ADS173003. Therein lies the problem. The instructions are perfectly legible. So are the key numbers on the decal sheet - for a man much younger than me who doesn't have to use bifocal spectacles! So... on Monday morning, I'm going to have to go out in search of a magnifying glass. I bet George Clooney doesn't have these problems!  SignatureEnzo I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. > I've had a lot of fun putting the stencils on my F-15A. I've done things > the way they are done in real life - stencils first, squadron markings [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > So... on Monday morning, I'm going to have to go out in search of a > magnifying glass. I bet George Clooney doesn't have these problems! Good to hear you've nearly finished your projects Enzo. Also if it saves you time you could always take a picture of the instructions with a digital camera & print at a scale that is acceptable for your vision. My own eyesight is fine at present for small items but I did recently get a magnyfing light that is useful. Cheers, Stephen >> I've had a lot of fun putting the stencils on my F-15A. I've done >> things the way they are done in real life - stencils first, squadron [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > instructions with a digital camera & print at a scale that is > acceptable for your vision. The instructions are fine. It's just that the equivalent key numbers on the decals sheet itself are tiny. Too tiny for my poor eyesight! I've photocopied the decal placement instructions. That way, when I place a decal, I can cross it off on the photocopied sheet. Not so green as I'm cabbage-looking, y'know! :-D SignatureEnzo I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. >>> I've had a lot of fun putting the stencils on my F-15A. I've done >>> things the way they are done in real life - stencils first, squadron [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > a decal, I can cross it off on the photocopied sheet. Not so green as I'm > cabbage-looking, y'know! :-D Possibly time to upscale to 32nd?? I'd definitely recommend lamp with inbuilt magnifier as that was certainly useful for decal placement on the recent 1/48 Henschel 129 I built. I obviously picked you up wrongly (watching boxing fight - Amir Khan, one to look out for in the near future for world title). Cheers, Stephen. >>> I've had a lot of fun putting the stencils on my F-15A. I've done >>> things the way they are done in real life - stencils first, squadron [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >decal, I can cross it off on the photocopied sheet. Not so green as I'm >cabbage-looking, y'know! :-D those fuselage numbers that step up on the side of a 1/72 me110 are very hard for me. >I've had a lot of fun putting the stencils on my F-15A. I've done things >the way they are done in real life - stencils first, squadron markings [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >So... on Monday morning, I'm going to have to go out in search of a >magnifying glass. I bet George Clooney doesn't have these problems! he wears reading glasses and doesn't build, enzo. so you are cooler. plus you know a lot more about the faa, so you win on collness points. but i woulf take his cash and conquests..... >> I've had a lot of fun putting the stencils on my F-15A. I've done >> things the way they are done in real life - stencils first, squadron [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > plus you know a lot more about the faa, so you win on collness points. > but i woulf take his cash and conquests..... George Clooney and I are *exactly* the same age. I must admit that I'm quite envious of his fame and fortune, but he's equally envious of my good looks and boyish charm. SignatureEnzo I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. >>> I've had a lot of fun putting the stencils on my F-15A. I've done >>> things the way they are done in real life - stencils first, squadron [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >envious of his fame and fortune, but he's equally envious of my good looks >and boyish charm. i bet you are the more homest on age. dr who and i are the same age, but he has better press, i think. >>>> I've had a lot of fun putting the stencils on my F-15A. I've done >>>> things the way they are done in real life - stencils first, [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > i bet you are the more homest on age. > dr who and i are the same age, You are 903 years old? SignatureEnzo I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. >>>>> I've had a lot of fun putting the stencils on my F-15A. I've done >>>>> things the way they are done in real life - stencils first, [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > >You are 903 years old? i thought it was 931? On Apr 6, 8:25 pm, some...@some.domain wrote: > In article <QIednZfX3PwDAGXanZ2dnUVZ8saon...@giganews.com>, "Enzo Matrix" <enz...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >some...@some.domain wrote: [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Hey, I am too! But it's spelled Dr. Hu and he's my accupuncturist..... >On Apr 6, 8:25=A0pm, some...@some.domain wrote: >> In article <QIednZfX3PwDAGXanZ2dnUVZ8saon...@giganews.com>, "Enzo Matrix" = [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > >Hey, I am too! But it's spelled Dr. Hu and he's my accupuncturist..... that story has holes in it no matter which way you look. > >On Apr 6, 8:25=A0pm, some...@some.domain wrote: > >> In article <QIednZfX3PwDAGXanZ2dnUVZ8saon...@giganews.com>, "Enzo Matrix" = [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > > > that story has holes in it no matter which way you look. You obviously missed the point... Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. >> In article >> <a80ff0e5-99ba-46a0-8f8f-18a8ce8f8bb1@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > > Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. Will you guys quit needling each other... (groan) RobG (The Aussie one) Enzo Matrix said the following on 05/04/2008 21:52: > I've had a lot of fun putting the stencils on my F-15A. I've done things > the way they are done in real life - stencils first, squadron markings [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > So... on Monday morning, I'm going to have to go out in search of a > magnifying glass. I bet George Clooney doesn't have these problems! Yeah but he's got lack of good looks to contend with. Don't be hard on the fellah! :-) Maybe something from the lower shelf, sir? <http://www.magnifyingglasses.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Hands_Free_Magnifie rs_and_Stands_12.html> > Enzo Matrix said the following on 05/04/2008 21:52: >> I've had a lot of fun putting the stencils on my F-15A. I've done things [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > <http://www.magnifyingglasses.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Hands_Free_Magnifie rs_and_Stands_12.html> Enzo, I've been using a graphic designer's type magnfier for months now. Guess I admitted my weaknesses;). Amazing how much you can pick out with a decent sable spotter on something like a resin cockpit. Decals wise, I also prefer stencils first, feels more.... correct? It's about time some of you guys admit that time is marching on - and having its effect upon us as it does so. I feel it every time I read a post about someone building one of those "prehistoric" aircraft or ships from the '40's or '50's. There was one recently, for example, that asked about the color scheme for that ancient plane, the Panther. Someone recommended that the builder look into the archives for some photos. Archives hell!!!! That aircraft was state of the art when I was in my early teens. I must be reeeeeelly old!! While there are some drawbacks to our advancing age - like having to use a 500-watt light and a 20x magnifier to work on a model - there are also some benefits, like not hearing my wife when she hollers, "Are you going to work on that boxcar all afternoon?" It all evens out in the end..... Andy > > Enzo Matrix said the following on 05/04/2008 21:52: > >> I've had a lot of fun putting the stencils on my F-15A. I've done things [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > decent sable spotter on something like a resin cockpit. Decals wise, I also > prefer stencils first, feels more.... correct? > It's about time some of you guys admit that time is marching on - and > having its effect upon us as it does so. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > are also some benefits, like not hearing my wife when she hollers, > "Are you going to work on that boxcar all afternoon?" Boxcar? Are you building a C-119? Or are you are railway (railroad) modeller? There's a few of us about... SignatureEnzo I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. I'm doing the REAL boxcars - primarily B&M, MEC, and BAR. Actually, I'm not making them so much as simply weathering a batch of them. Andy > > It's about time some of you guys admit that time is marching on - and > > having its effect upon us as it does so. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. > > It's about time some of you guys admit that time is marching on - and > > having its effect upon us as it does so. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > -- > Enzo OK, Enzo, explain the use of brake vans to me. Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. >>> It's about time some of you guys admit that time is marching on - >>> and having its effect upon us as it does so. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > OK, Enzo, explain the use of brake vans to me. Not much to explain really. They provide braking support for the engine on unfitted freight trains. An unfitted freight is one that does not have a vacuum braking system. There is therefore no way of individually braking the wagons in the train. In some cases the momentum of the train can overcome the braking effect of the engine, especially on a falling grade or in an emergency stop. Therefore a brake van is added to the train, usually at the rear end. The van has a very efficient manual braking system and in some cases is loaded with concrete blocks to provide a greater braking force. The brake man rides in the van and he is required to be as familiar with the route as are the engine crew, so he knows where the falling grades and potential stops are. He can therefore apply the brakes at the requisite time and help prevent the momentum of the train from over-running the engine brakes. On heavier trains there could be additional manned brake vans located within the train itself. Although not strictly needed on fitted freight trains, brake vans were still used to provide accommodation for a third crew member who was required by railway safety regulations. You may also see brake vans included in passenger trains, especially on small branch lines. In such cases, the brake van was simply acting as non-passenger utility stock to provide extra storage space on the train. SignatureEnzo I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. > >>> It's about time some of you guys admit that time is marching on - > >>> and having its effect upon us as it does so. [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > > I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. Hmm, similar to the American caboose but not exactly alike. Thanks, that was educational. Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. Andy said the following on 06/04/2008 14:55: > It's about time some of you guys admit that time is marching on - and > having its effect upon us as it does so. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > That aircraft was state of the art when I was in my early teens. I > must be reeeeeelly old!! Telling when most aircraft you flew in are now languishing in museums! >It's about time some of you guys admit that time is marching on - and >having its effect upon us as it does so. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >Andy boxcars are turning in my minds. -rem On Apr 6, 7:26 pm, some...@some.domain wrote: > In article <2eae60f1-938e-42f6-9a96-8e6f7390c...@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, Andy <Andyroo...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > boxcars are turning in my minds. > -rem I've been up close and personal with Bock's car...close enough? >On Apr 6, 7:26 pm, some...@some.domain wrote: >> In article [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > >I've been up close and personal with Bock's car...close enough? i bet you had the same whack of history and chills? ever heard the song enola gay by orchestral maneuvers in the dark? i did a 40th and 10 years later, 50th anniversary of the use of nuclear weapons radio programs, and all theses years later, hearing them again still is a traumatic iceburg looking for april 16h in my psyche. so yeah, close enough. >>On Apr 6, 7:26 pm, some...@some.domain wrote: >>> In article [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] >is a traumatic iceburg looking for april 16h in my psyche. >so yeah, close enough. oops, 12th not 16th. > >It's about time some of you guys admit that time is marching on - and > >having its effect upon us as it does so. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > boxcars are turning in my minds. > -rem Watch those nasty corners! Wouldn't want anything torn in there. Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. >> In article > <2eae60f1-938e-42f6-9a96-8e6f7390c460@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, Andy [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > >Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. i use a meliere, sp? engine. > >> In article > > <2eae60f1-938e-42f6-9a96-8e6f7390c460@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, Andy [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > >Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. > i use a meliere, sp? engine. Eh? Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. >> >> In article >> > <2eae60f1-938e-42f6-9a96-8e6f7390c460@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, Andy [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > >Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. i think it's melies. the articulated ones woth two drivers on trucks rhat turn independently for tight curves. compound engine? > i think it's melies. the articulated ones woth two drivers on trucks rhat > turn > independently for tight curves. compound engine? Isn't that a Fairlie Double, like they use on the Ffestiniog ? >> i think it's melies. the articulated ones woth two drivers on trucks rhat >> turn >> independently for tight curves. compound engine? > >Isn't that a Fairlie Double, like they use on the Ffestiniog ? used by lots of rr's and countries. but it was invented in france bu, oddly enough, frenchman. i think his name was melies or close to that. i'm sure they were built in england, they were certainly built here. i think the giants were articulated, weren't they?like the big boys, etc. > >> i think it's melies. the articulated ones woth two drivers on trucks rhat > >> turn > >> independently for tight curves. compound engine? > > > >Isn't that a Fairlie Double, like they use on the Ffestiniog ? I think those run on rigid wheelbases but I don't know that for certain. In their case there are two separate boilers and steam cylinder sets. > used by lots of rr's and countries. but it was invented in france bu, oddly > enough, frenchman. i think his name was melies or close to that. > i'm sure they were built in england, they were certainly built here. > i think the giants were articulated, weren't they?like the big boys, etc. Yes. Big Boy, Challenger, Yellowstone, and Allegheny are some of the different names of these in N. America. Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr >> In article <47fcbf06$1@news.bnb-lp.com>, "Rik Shepherd" > <RikShepherd@houseoftheSCAMPERINGorangemonkey.co.uk> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > >Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr ok, which do you think is better, big boy or challenger? i know they often worked together. > >> In article <47fcbf06$1@news.bnb-lp.com>, "Rik Shepherd" > > <RikShepherd@houseoftheSCAMPERINGorangemonkey.co.uk> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > ok, which do you think is better, big boy or challenger? > i know they often worked together. They had different jobs to do. Challengers were the speedy ones and were usually found on high priority freights. Big Boys pulled high tonnage trains over the Rockies and operated at slower speeds. Comparing them is a bit like matching a Mosquito against a B-17. Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. >> >> In article <47fcbf06$1@news.bnb-lp.com>, "Rik Shepherd" >> > <RikShepherd@houseoftheSCAMPERINGorangemonkey.co.uk> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > >Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. tanks > >> >> In article > >> > <2eae60f1-938e-42f6-9a96-8e6f7390c460@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, Andy [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > i think it's melies. the articulated ones woth two drivers on trucks rhat turn > independently for tight curves. compound engine? Mallet? The designer was French therefore the name is pronounced 'Mallay' Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr >> >> >> In article >> >> > <2eae60f1-938e-42f6-9a96-8e6f7390c460@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, Andy [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > >Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr dat's zit, dat's zit. mallet was the guy. now do i have it right, one boiler, steam drives one engine, then is reused in the second? and some even had a third engine between one set of drivers? must have been a bitch to fix. too bad they didn't use a turbine for number 3. a loco named titanic? > >> >> >> In article > >> >> > <2eae60f1-938e-42f6-9a96-8e6f7390c460@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, Andy [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > must have been a bitch to fix. too bad they didn't use a turbine for number 3. > a loco named titanic? Yes on the steam arrangements. The locomotives with 3 sets of drivers were on the Erie RR and called Triplexes. The third set of drivers were under the tender. I do believe maintenance on the locos and the track were both contributing factors in their retirement. IIRC, they were mostly used in pusher service. Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. >> >> >> In article <47F9AE47.67F8456E@nextline.com>, vze3zb2k@verizon.net > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 63 lines] > >Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. were any of them cab forward? > were any of them cab forward? If you mean the triplexes, I'm pretty sure that's a no. I haven't any Erie steam references here so I can't confirm that but I can't recall of hearing of any. SP had the cab forwards because of the tunnels over Donner Pass. Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. >> were any of them cab forward? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. i don't think they were the only ones. i remeber a train book from high school that had a lot of cf''s. seems like there were more than 20 different. wish i could remember name and author. it was like that interurban book, just crammed with obscurities for the detail nut. : were any of them cab forward? The SP cab forwards were all simple articulated engines, none of them were compound articulateds, including the early cab forwards based on the Consolidated (or was it Mikado?) Bruce Signature------------------------------------------------------------------------ "I like bad!" Bruce Burden Austin, TX. - Thuganlitha The Power and the Prophet Robert Don Hughes >: were any of them cab forward? >: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Bruce mikado sounds right. bill? > >: were any of them cab forward? > >: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > mikado sounds right. > bill? Consolidated - 2-8-0; Mikado - 2-8-2 My money's on the Consolidated. 2-8+8-2 sounds more feasible than a 2-8-2+2-8-2. The latter sounds more like a Beyer-Garratt. Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. >> In article <ftmk3g115va@enews2.newsguy.com>, brucegb@realtime.net (Bruce > Burden) wrote: [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. ok, you know a lot more about steam than i do. : Consolidated - 2-8-0; Mikado - 2-8-2 : My money's on the Consolidated. 2-8+8-2 sounds more feasible than a : 2-8-2+2-8-2. The latter sounds more like a Beyer-Garratt. I believe they were Consolidated based as well, but not for the reason stated above. Rather: 1) I believe the Consolidation design was the work of Harriman et. al., which were the western railroad cartel that owned UP, SP, CP, etc., until broken up on monopply grounds. 2) The Consolidation design predated the Mike by around 15 years, I believe? 3) The trailing truck is academic, since you are removing the firebox, cab, etc. along with the trailing truck when creating the front engine. In fact, given that the name of the last set of cab forward engines were "AC" 1 - 12, I am certain that stands for "Articulated Consolidation". However, the first cab forwards SP played with were, IIRC, "AM". Hmmmm, "Articulated Moguls"? And, so google says. Cool! However, I see I was wrong - the first cab forwards that SP played with were designated "MM", or Mallet Moguls, so, yes, they were compound engined with 23 and 38 inch cylinders. They were "simplified" and designeated "AM" in the 20's. Bruce Signature------------------------------------------------------------------------ "I like bad!" Bruce Burden Austin, TX. - Thuganlitha The Power and the Prophet Robert Don Hughes >: Consolidated - 2-8-0; Mikado - 2-8-2 >: My money's on the Consolidated. 2-8+8-2 sounds more feasible than a [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Bruce thanks. i love at that finicky detail. gimmie a book with every make, model and mod of 1000 pages and i'm happy. love warplanes of the second world war and the third reich book. :> the second? and some even had a third engine between one set of drivers? : : Yes on the steam arrangements. The locomotives with 3 sets of drivers : were on the Erie RR and called Triplexes. The third set of drivers were : under the tender. I think the Texans (?) that SP used, with the very long ?-10-? arrangement had a third cylinder mounted between the frames, just for good measure. This system was used in a earlier loco design as well, I think, that used the slide valve steam chest. Neither design was well liked by the maintenance crews, I expect. Bruce Signature------------------------------------------------------------------------ "I like bad!" Bruce Burden Austin, TX. - Thuganlitha The Power and the Prophet Robert Don Hughes >:> the second? and some even had a third engine between one set of drivers? >: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Bruce trying to work from down in the pit on super heavyweight stuff? i imagine you're right. it's a really great concept. that's why i made the joke about the turbine ala the titanic. > I've had a lot of fun putting the stencils on my F-15A. I've done > things the way they are done in real life - stencils first, squadron [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > So... on Monday morning, I'm going to have to go out in search of a > magnifying glass. I bet George Clooney doesn't have these problems! Have you found one yet of reasonable quality at reasonable cost? I broke mine after 25 years of use. I was balancing it on my knee while reading the Bachmann catalogue in the khazi and it slipped off and smashed on the floor. (kim) |
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