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I've been out of pocket for a while. when I opened up RMS tonight about half the posts were ads for knock-off sneakers, watches, etc. What's up with all this crap? Where'd it come from?  SignatureCheers: Bill Woodier In the long history of the world, only a few generations have been granted the role of defending freedom in its hour of maximum danger. I do not shrink from this responsibility -- I welcome it. My Home Page: http://www.bill-woodier.com/home.htm -- > I've been out of pocket for a while. when I opened up RMS tonight about > half the posts were ads for knock-off sneakers, watches, etc. What's up > with all this crap? Where'd it come from? All of Usenet seems to be under an attack from Chinese spammers. The best thing to do is get a news reader that allows filtering and try filtering out everything from Google, which is where about 95 percent of the Spam is coming from. : All of Usenet seems to be under an attack from Chinese spammers. It does not help any that Google seems to have its head firmly socketed in its' collective sphincter muscle when it comes to stopping these clowns, either. Bruce Signature------------------------------------------------------------------------ "I like bad!" Bruce Burden Austin, TX. - Thuganlitha The Power and the Prophet Robert Don Hughes China. > I've been out of pocket for a while. when I opened up RMS tonight about > half the posts were ads for knock-off sneakers, watches, etc. What's up > with all this crap? Where'd it come from? > I've been out of pocket for a while. when I opened up RMS tonight about > half the posts were ads for knock-off sneakers, watches, etc. What's up [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > My Home Page: http://www.bill-woodier.com/home.htm > -- When there is no moderator there is no control over content. The problem will continue until a moderator is appointed. A moderator need judge the appropriateness of posts, more be there to delete this spam crap. RW When there is no moderator there is no control over content. The problem will continue until a moderator is appointed. A moderator need not judge the appropriateness of posts, more be there to delete this spam crap. RW > > I've been out of pocket for a while. when I opened up RMS tonight about > > half the posts were ads for knock-off sneakers, watches, etc. What's up [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > RW Sorry, a correction needs to be made to my previous post. When there is no moderator there is no control over content. The problem will continue until a moderator is appointed. A moderator need NOT judge the appropriateness of posts, more be there to delete this spam crap. RW on 4/21/2008 12:13 AM Ship Modeler said the following: > >> [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Filters will take care of most of the spam. Some people just don't know how to use the filters available in their newsreader. My filters delete about 90% of the spam. Being a moderator is a full time job. Would you like to be a moderator? How many hours daily could you put into moderating the content? What happens when there is no moderator available? Would the posts just be piled into a moderator's inbox until he/she gets around to reading them all and selecting which posts are to be forwarded to the group? SignatureBill In Hamptonburgh, NY To email, remove the double zeroes after @ > on 4/21/2008 12:13 AM Ship Modeler said the following: > [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > In Hamptonburgh, NY > To email, remove the double zeroes after @ Bill, What do you use for filtering software? I'm using Firefox on an OS X Mac and accessing the newsgroup thru Google. Any cheap (ie, free) places I can go to or (free) downloads I can use to filter this crap out to see a spamless RMS? on 4/21/2008 9:19 AM Don McIntyre said the following: > >> on 4/21/2008 12:13 AM Ship Modeler said the following: [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > out to see a spamless RMS? > Firefox is a browser. My newsreader is Thunderbird (also free open source from Mozilla). Mozilla ceased providing software for Mac in 2002. If you can run Windows software on your Mac, you can probably use the Windows version. http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/ . SignatureBill In Hamptonburgh, NY To email, remove the double zeroes after @ >> Bill, >> What do you use for filtering software? I'm using Firefox on an OS X [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Windows software on your Mac, you can probably use the Windows version. > http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/ . I second that. I read my newsgroups with Thunderbird, just like emails (Comcast account) and filter out at least 90+% of the garbage. Works great! Grandpa John On Apr 21, 9:15 am, MySelf <TurkeyLips.com> wrote:> willshak wrote:> > >> Bill,> >> What do you use for filtering software? I'm using Firefox on an OS X> >> Mac and accessing the newsgroup thru Google. Any cheap (ie, free)> >> places I can go to or (free) downloads I can use to filter this crap> >> out to see a spamless RMS?> > > Firefox is a browser.> > My newsreader is Thunderbird (also free open source from Mozilla).> > Mozilla ceased providing software for Mac in 2002. If you can run> > Windows software on your Mac, you can probably use the Windows version.> >http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/.> > I second that. I read my newsgroups with Thunderbird, just like emails> (Comcast account) and filter out at least 90+% of the garbage. Works great!> Grandpa JohnI think that we should split the group. There are so many....Oh, wait a minnute. Wrong thread.SorryTom Yeah......I said I used Firefox but I was mistaken. I use Firefox as an alternate Internet browser. I used Thunderbird as a ng reader for a while before going back to Outlook exp. SignatureCheers: Bill Woodier In the long history of the world, only a few generations have been granted the role of defending freedom in its hour of maximum danger. I do not shrink from this responsibility -- I welcome it. My Home Page: http://www.bill-woodier.com/home.htm -- > on 4/21/2008 9:19 AM Don McIntyre said the following: >> [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] > on your Mac, you can probably use the Windows version. > http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/ . > on 4/21/2008 9:19 AM DonMcIntyresaid the following: > [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > In Hamptonburgh, NY > To email, remove the double zeroes after @ Actually, Mozilla still produces software for the Mac. I just downloaded Firefox 2 last week. If Thunderbird is available for OS X I'll download it and try that. I may need some help setting it up for filtering. If I do, I'll be back… 8-) I'm using Outlook Express currently. I have used Firefox in the past but went back to Outlook Express. SignatureCheers: Bill Woodier In the long history of the world, only a few generations have been granted the role of defending freedom in its hour of maximum danger. I do not shrink from this responsibility -- I welcome it. My Home Page: http://www.bill-woodier.com/home.htm -- >> on 4/21/2008 12:13 AM Ship Modeler said the following: >> [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > places I can go to or (free) downloads I can use to filter this crap > out to see a spamless RMS? > on 4/21/2008 12:13 AM Ship Modeler said the following: > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > > RW > Being a moderator is a full time job. Would you like to be a moderator? > How many hours daily could you put into moderating the content? What [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > In Hamptonburgh, NY > To email, remove the double zeroes after @ I would think, but do not know that all the email will be posted until the moderator deletes it. If the moderator can't be on line for some reason the crap would just get through until they can find time. As I said, I have no idea how it really works. Personally I wouldn't have problem dropping in once a day to inspect the posts. I'm sure there are many out there who have the same amount of time I do. RW You know something-it's been bugging me for a long time: Flattened tires on USN aircraft. I was on the flight deck as an Aviation Ordnanceman for 27 years on about eleven different carriers. I never saw flattened tires on any aircraft, even loaded with bombs, fuel, or electronics. If the tires were flattened it was so miniscule as to go unseen, certainly not enough to be modeled in any scale except maybe full scale. If flattened tires exist will someone please provide photographic proof. I believe flattened tires would made taxiing and launching harder, requiring more aircraft and catapult power. Landing with "flattened (under-inflated) tires would, I believe, cause tires to fail. Richard... : You know something-it's been bugging me for a long time: Flattened tires on : USN aircraft. I assume you mean "modern" USN aircraft, but it applies to just about any modern combat aircraft, with the exception of the Jaguar and a few others. Modern high-pressure tires bulge very little. I have the same problem with "rusted" tank tracks - sure, if you are doing a museum piece/memorial that has not moved in years. But, one in service? Not so much. : If the tires were flattened it was so miniscule as to go unseen, certainly : not enough to be modeled in any scale except maybe full scale. It started out as a good idea, and was subtle. Then "True Details" decided "the more the merrier" and started producing flat tires. No, not bulged, FLAT tires. : If flattened tires exist will someone please provide photographic proof. : I believe flattened tires would made taxiing and launching harder, requiring : more aircraft and catapult power. WWII aircraft were more likely to demonstrate a bulge, but as I say above, a good idea is now taken to silly extremes. You may as well comment about panel lines, etc. while you are at it. :-) Bruce Signature------------------------------------------------------------------------ "I like bad!" Bruce Burden Austin, TX. - Thuganlitha The Power and the Prophet Robert Don Hughes > WWII aircraft were more likely to demonstrate a bulge, but as I > say above, a good idea is now taken to silly extremes. You may as well > comment about panel lines, etc. while you are at it. :-) My eyeball test is will the model look realistic when photographed? I find it jarring the overemphasized shading, wheathering, oxidation, rust. The war lasted five years. No equipment that begun with the war lasted more than a year whatever the reason including instant obsolence. They didn't have the time to get rusted or weathered, Intense use would have created a lot of scruff marks and dents but not excessive weathering. The "hung on" accessories that have no visible means of securing them would have fallen off the moment the vehicle moved. Overloading that would have broken the axle at the first bump on the road................ Take a digital photo and see if you can believe your own work. > > WWII aircraft were more likely to demonstrate a bulge, but as I > > say above, a good idea is now taken to silly extremes. You may as well [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > on the road................ Take a digital photo and see if you can > believe your own work. WW2 airplanes did not show much rust because most of the exterior was painted or natural aluminum. However, in combat areas they DID get real grungy. Paints in that era oxidized and faded (UV effects) quite rapidly if not hangered. Exhaust stains were not cleaned off. Gunsmoke stains also showed. Paint chipped with the amount of servicing called for by heavy usage. Good photos show this. on 4/23/2008 10:04 AM Don Stauffer in Minnesota said the following: > >> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Gunsmoke stains also showed. Paint chipped with the amount of > servicing called for by heavy usage. Good photos show this. Flexing of the panels caused chips around edges. SignatureBill In Hamptonburgh, NY To email, remove the double zeroes after @ > on 4/23/2008 10:04 AM Don Stauffer in Minnesota said the following: >> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Flexing of the panels caused chips around edges. I'm always put off my by over peeled paint on Japanese aircraft. Even if the paint sucked, did they really last long enough? Frank > > I'm always put off my by over peeled paint on Japanese aircraft. Even if the > paint sucked, did they really last long enough? > > Frank Early in the war I'd say they lasted longer because the parts supply was better and the mechanics were available. Many mechanics suffered because of the lousy living conditions and attrition wasn't sufficiently addressed. The admittedly grainy pictures of Japanese aircraft that I've seen give one the impression that the paint was in that bad of a state. Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. : My eyeball test is will the model look realistic when photographed? Given some of the good photos of crap models I have seen, I can't agree with that approach. I prefer the "throw the model in a cabinet/box/etc. for a month, THEN look at it anew. If you still like it, you are done. : I find it jarring the overemphasized shading, wheathering, oxidation, : rust. It is a school, and an artistic impression, not an absolute miniature. I worry more about whether the results are consistent, but if it seems "realistic" to me, it is better. :-) : The war lasted five years. No equipment that begun with the war : lasted more than a year whatever the reason including instant : obsolence. Be careful - there are photos of very early production Shermans in post-war vehicle parks in Italy. So, it is possible some equip- ment survived. I suspect you can find Grants that survived the war in Burma, etc., and were in pretty ratty shape after spending the war going from Australia to Bornea to who knows where to end in places like Burma. : The "hung on" accessories that have no visible : means of securing them would have fallen off the moment the vehicle : moved. What, you don't believe super glue, really, really powerful magnets, duct tape and velcro existed in WWII? :-) But, more than that, pimp your models once they have been plopped on the table - make sure the tracks are straight, that they lay over the return rollers, that the road wheels are in/ over the guide teeth, and propeller is not mashed into the cowl, those finicky main gear wheels are on straight, etc. Oh - and a base is handy, too - judges can move the base, and not touch your model. Bruce Signature------------------------------------------------------------------------ "I like bad!" Bruce Burden Austin, TX. - Thuganlitha The Power and the Prophet Robert Don Hughes > You know something-it's been bugging me for a long time: Flattened tires on > USN aircraft. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Flat tires in model aircraft kits is my second biggest peeve with the model industry - right behind inaccurate ordnance loadings...I work on a shore-based flight line full USN aircraft right now, and ya know what?..the tires on the jets on my line are all round just like they were during your time afloat...and I happen to know that they run lower tire pressures ashore than afloat - 100 psi lower, in the case of a Hornet. Even the tires on the jets that belong to the foreign visitors we get on our line are round...I dunno who got this "flat-tire fashion statement" put into our kits, but I wish they'd actually go out look at a jet and learn something... Signature- Rufus > > I've been out of pocket for a while. when I opened up RMS tonight about > > half the posts were ads for knock-off sneakers, watches, etc. What's up [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > RW Unfortunately, changing a newsgroup from unmoderated to moderated is not the easiest thing in the world- quite a process that requires "voting". The other thing is that some moderated groups do not have a backup moderator. One of my favorite groups- sci.aeronautics, went dormant twice when the moderator got sick or lost internet access. The last time it is apparently permanent, and the process to get the group unmoderated won't work because there is no way to post the proposal to go unmoderated. So moderated groups are a mixed blessing. Just wondering what these walking, talking rectums are thinking. Do these spammers think that after they deluge a newsgroup with tons of this crap that someone might actually patronize one of them? SignatureCheers: Bill Woodier In the long history of the world, only a few generations have been granted the role of defending freedom in its hour of maximum danger. I do not shrink from this responsibility -- I welcome it. My Home Page: http://www.bill-woodier.com/home.htm -- : Just wondering what these walking, talking rectums are thinking. Do these : spammers think that after they deluge a newsgroup with tons of this crap : that someone might actually patronize one of them? What leads you to conclude that these assholds "think"? It is just like deep sea trawling - create a 20 mile diameter net and see what it contains when you reel it in. You might actually get something. If not, well, try again. And for those who get caught in the net, but are of no interest? Oh well. Comes with the territory. And for those of you who want a moderator, quit "wanting" and look up the proceedures to change a group from unmoderated to moderated. I believe the proceedures are in news.news or there abouts. Hint - it is a non-trivial proceedure, and for good reason. It has also been floated in this group previously, and you can see the results for yourselves. Just something to think about... Bruce Signature------------------------------------------------------------------------ "I like bad!" Bruce Burden Austin, TX. - Thuganlitha The Power and the Prophet Robert Don Hughes Yeah, they do. They're depending on the P.T. Barnum factor. > Just wondering what these walking, talking rectums are thinking. Do these > spammers think that after they deluge a newsgroup with tons of this crap > that someone might actually patronize one of them? > I've been out of pocket for a while. when I opened up RMS tonight about > half the posts were ads for knock-off sneakers, watches, etc. What's up > with all this crap? Where'd it come from? This also comes from kowtowing to China's demands that access to "undesirables sites" be limited or banned! 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