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Pat Flannery - 05 May 2008 00:29 GMT
Another one to baffle the IPMS judges with:
http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/05/04/new-all-metal-helicopter-has-eighteen-
foot-wing-props/


Pat
kim - 05 May 2008 00:39 GMT
> Another one to baffle the IPMS judges with:
> http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/05/04/new-all-metal-helicopter-has-eighteen-
foot-wing-props/

Wouldn't the wings block the downward flow of air to the propellors and
wouldn't the latter generate more lift if they were aligned perpendicular to
the upper wing surface?

(kim)
Pat Flannery - 05 May 2008 07:14 GMT
>  
>> Another one to baffle the IPMS judges with:
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> the upper wing surface?
>  

Now you know why you never heard of the Hamilton Metalplane
Company....but actually you did, as this becomes Hamilton Standard, the
propeller manufacturer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_F._Hamilton
I imagine this particular design was politely excised from the company
history. :-)
The Hamilton H-47 did get built and used though.
(This may be related also: http://aerofiles.com/hamiltonhelo.jpg Kamov
was going to make good use of that rotor concept in the years to come.)
The VTOL is a really bad design, and with no lift rotor back by the tail
to control its pitch attitude once airborne, it's going to go out of
control right after lift-off....assuming it could actually leave the ground.
I wondered if they actually tried to fly it?

Pat
The Old Man - 05 May 2008 11:29 GMT
> Now you know why you never heard of the Hamilton Metalplane
> Company....but actually you did, as this becomes Hamilton Standard, the
> propeller manufacturer:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_F._Hamilton
> I imagine this particular design was politely excised from the company
> history. :-)

No, no, no. Read the article again. One Jesse Johnson of Delray
Florida took the Metalplane and converted it into this contraption.
The Metalplane itself was a very good aircraft that served as a cargo
aircraft and feederline transport for years and was flown by bush
pilots (see Wien Alaska Airways) in Alaska.
Pat Flannery - 05 May 2008 20:02 GMT
> No, no, no. Read the article again. One Jesse Johnson of Delray
> Florida took the Metalplane and converted it into this contraption.
> The Metalplane itself was a very good aircraft that served as a cargo
> aircraft and feederline transport for years and was flown by bush
> pilots (see Wien Alaska Airways) in Alaska.
>  

The VTOL one in the photo doesn't look like the H-45 or H-47, which were
used up in Alaska; they had rectangular bodies in cross section and
enclosed cockpits:
Here's a H-45:
http://www.edcoatescollection.com/ac3/Airline/Wien%20Alaska%20Metalplane.jpg
And a H-47:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Northwest-Airlines/Hamilton-H-47-Metalplane/1321816/M/
The one in the photo is ovoid in cross section, appears to have a open
cockpit, and has a lot thicker wings on it.
This the is the first aircraft Hamilton Metalplane produced, the H-18:
http://www.earlyaviators.com/ehamilto.htm
Anyway, you are right; the oddity probably can't be laid at Hamilton
Metalplane's door, and one wonders what they thought when they saw what
he had done to the aircraft.
I never expected to find this connection for Thomas F. Hamilton...he was
in with "the Leonardo da Vinci of kooks", Alfred Lawson, and his airline
schemes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Lawson
http://www.pacifier.com/~dkossy/lawsonomy.html
Here's the plane:
http://www.aviationhalloffamewisconsin.com/images/lawson_airliner_1919.jpg
And if you want the straight poop on how everything works, then go to
the wellspring of knowledge itself:
http://www.lawsonomy.org/Lawsonomy100.html

Pat
Don Stauffer in Minnesota - 05 May 2008 14:20 GMT
> >> Another one to baffle the IPMS judges with:
> >>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/05/04/new-all-metal-helicopter-ha...
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> Pat

Actually, Hamilton as an aircraft manufacturer is well known to early
airliner buffs.  They made some neat looking small airliners. Featured
all-metal construction, sort of single engined Ford Tri-motors.
 
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