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Airco\De Havilland D.H.2

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Nigel Heather - 07 May 2008 17:12 GMT
I'm making one of these little planes in 1\72 and have a question about the
painting instructions.

It says that the top and front of the fuz, the interplane struts and the
rear strutwork that the tail feathers are attached to should all be painted
grey.

This sort of agrees with colour illustrations that I have seen.

My question is whether this really is grey paint or bare metal.

Can anyone shed any light on this?

Cheers,

Nigel
The Old Man - 07 May 2008 20:17 GMT
On May 7, 12:12 pm, "Nigel Heather" <nigel@<NO_SPAM>the-
heathers.co.uk> wrote:
> I'm making one of these little planes in 1\72 and have a question about the
> painting instructions.
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>
> Nigel

As they were wooden, grey makes more sense. Maybe metal fittings at
the joins, but the main length of the struts would be painted.
Don Stauffer in Minnesota - 08 May 2008 15:13 GMT
On May 7, 11:12 am, "Nigel Heather" <nigel@<NO_SPAM>the-
heathers.co.uk> wrote:
> I'm making one of these little planes in 1\72 and have a question about the
> painting instructions.
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>
> Nigel

That is going to be a tough one.  Museum planes would very likely be
painted now, even if originally they were bare.  And rather than bare
unpainted metal, they would likely have had some sort of surface
treatment, like a "baked oil" or a gunmetal finish. But the only way
to know for sure today is to find the process specs used in
manufacture.  Those kind of questions are getting VERY hard to answer
today, as those who actually built them are few and far between, and
getting fewer each year.

In later years there were more standard specifications and standards
that addressed these issues.  But in WW1 and before it was each
company for itself :-(

Again the caution about using museum planes as examples- even for
later eras where standards were available, and when color photography
was more common and can be found, I see museum planes with finishes
that were certainly not what originally were found on the planes, so I
assume the situation is even worse for WW1 craft.

On the other hand, hard for anyone to prove you wrong :-)
The Old Man - 08 May 2008 19:04 GMT
On May 8, 10:13 am, Don Stauffer in Minnesota <stauf...@usfamily.net>
wrote:
> On May 7, 11:12 am, "Nigel Heather" <nigel@<NO_SPAM>the-
>
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Back in the day, when I was in the service, we protected the wood on
our training rifles with linseed oil. If that was used by the RFC, the
wood would look varnised and the metal shiney.
someone@some.domain - 08 May 2008 21:09 GMT
>On May 8, 10:13=A0am, Don Stauffer in Minnesota <stauf...@usfamily.net>
>wrote:
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>our training rifles with linseed oil. If that was used by the RFC, the
>wood would look varnised and the metal shiney.
we used neat's foot oil to make leather soft, clean and somewhat waterproof.
i love that stuff. an old biker bud found his 60's chopper left in a shed. we
got it cleaned and running except the beautifull leather bags were ready to
crack. they were rock hard. when i told him we could restore them, he called
me a crazy bastard. he said if i could restore them, he would paint my hot rod
thumper.
he is an expert painter and charges major cash. so i jumped on it.
i brushed on a good coat of neat's foot, repeated everyday for a week and at
the end, they made a baby's butt feel like sandpaper.
just call me glossy.....
Mad-Modeller - 09 May 2008 01:47 GMT
> >On May 8, 10:13=A0am, Don Stauffer in Minnesota <stauf...@usfamily.net>
> >wrote:
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> the end, they made a baby's butt feel like sandpaper.
> just call me glossy.....

Oh that's slick.
I might try that on my old boots.

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
someone@some.domain - 09 May 2008 02:26 GMT
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> <c70ece50-9117-40c7-8409-e3851f982a97@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, The Old
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>Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.

sure, and it will do major cleaning. i thought you old guy's knew everything?
Mad-Modeller - 09 May 2008 03:23 GMT
> >> In article
> > <c70ece50-9117-40c7-8409-e3851f982a97@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, The Old
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> sure, and it will do major cleaning. i thought you old guy's knew everything?

Apparently so.  You just told me. ;)

So, when is your birthday?

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
someone@some.domain - 09 May 2008 03:32 GMT
>> >> In article
>> > <c70ece50-9117-40c7-8409-e3851f982a97@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, The
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>Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
july....damn, you're cruel!
Ian Maw - 09 May 2008 05:33 GMT
> On May 7, 11:12 am, "Nigel Heather" <nigel@<NO_SPAM>the-
> heathers.co.uk> wrote:

>> I'm making one of these little planes in 1\72 and have a question about
>> the
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>> Nigel
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Before this thread gets too far away from the original question,

All wood and metal parts of the DH.2 were painted light grey.
An ideal publication to borrow, or buy if you can, is Windsock Datafile 48,
Airco DH2 by BJ Gray, and published by Albatros
http://www.windsockdatafilespecials.co.uk/
The Old Man - 09 May 2008 11:22 GMT
> > On May 7, 11:12 am, "Nigel Heather" <nigel@<NO_SPAM>the-
> > heathers.co.uk> wrote:
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> An ideal publication to borrow, or buy if you can, is Windsock Datafile 48,
> Airco DH2 by BJ Gray, and published by Albatroshttp://www.windsockdatafilespecials.co.uk/

And I remember one from the Profiles File #91 (found in book 4) that
shows the vertical struts in alternating red/white bands.
Nigel Heather - 11 May 2008 22:59 GMT
Thnaks guys - I'll stick with the painting guide - grey for the majority of
the struts and as you say the outer set are more decorative - blue and white
stripes on my example - just the outer ones though, the inners and fuz
struts are plain grey.

Cheers,

Nigel
 
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