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Model Forum / General / Models / May 2008Are we our own worst enemy?
Having looked at the Hannants site, I see that the re-issues of the Airfix Gloster Gladiator and TBD-1 Devastator are at No 5 and No 10 in the charts respectively. These moulds must be 40 years old. I doubt if they have been modified in any way whatsoever, yet here they are as some of the most popular buys. I must admit that I wouldn't mind buyng these two kits again. If Airfix simply re-pop 40 year old kits without any modification and we modellers simply go ahead and buy them, are we acting as our own worst enemy? There is no incentive for Airfix to improve the moulds or maybe make a new tool. On the other hand, if we *don't* buy these kits, in an attempt to force Airfix to re-tool them, are we in danger of sending Airfix into receivership again? Please note that I am not complaining about Airfix re-popping old kits. I'd rather have an Airfix doing that than no Airfix at all. And I'm pretty certain that I'm going to buy that TBD kit. It's a quarter of the price of the equivalent Valom kits. Okay, so it's going to need a lot of work, but I'm supposed to be a modeller...  SignatureEnzo I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. Enzo Matrix said the following on 09/05/2008 10:07: > Having looked at the Hannants site, I see that the re-issues of the Airfix > Gloster Gladiator and TBD-1 Devastator are at No 5 and No 10 in the charts [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > to force Airfix to re-tool them, are we in danger of sending Airfix into > receivership again? I agree with you there. I bet they are being watched very closely with how they manage the purse strings in a market that is a bit thinner than it used to be. Maybe they'll end up making new mobile phone covers and Wii handheld designs, to make ends meet! ;-) > Please note that I am not complaining about Airfix re-popping old kits. I'd > rather have an Airfix doing that than no Airfix at all. And I'm pretty > certain that I'm going to buy that TBD kit. It's a quarter of the price of > the equivalent Valom kits. Okay, so it's going to need a lot of work, but > I'm supposed to be a modeller... How about asking them to run a competition to produce a new set of moulds with cost of entry being 5 quid? With the 25 quid they get from that should help and the winner gets the first kit off the press. Seriously, I don't know of too many people who have written to a company with an idea then got a new product in return (as I did from Airfix all those decades ago)? > How about asking them to run a competition to produce a new set of > moulds with cost of entry being 5 quid? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > company with an idea then got a new product in return (as I did from > Airfix all those decades ago)? Ooh! Tell us more! SignatureEnzo I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. Enzo Matrix said the following on 09/05/2008 12:49: >> How about asking them to run a competition to produce a new set of >> moulds with cost of entry being 5 quid? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Ooh! Tell us more! When I was about 13 I think it was HMS Cossack that I'd bought and got bored of the stands that everything had so I wrote asking about any plans for a water diorama. I forgot all about it then some months later I received through the post, a moulding of sea with a full hull recess to fit the ship into! I'd only recently revitalised that idea by buying moulding materials from Alec Tiranti and am pleased with the results so far. > Having looked at the Hannants site, I see that the re-issues of the Airfix > Gloster Gladiator and TBD-1 Devastator are at No 5 and No 10 in the charts [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > price of the equivalent Valom kits. Okay, so it's going to need a lot of > work, but I'm supposed to be a modeller... I suspect that they are repoping old kits to raise some cash to make new molds. As long as they keep slipping in new releases along with the repops, I'm OK with it. Dave > Having looked at the Hannants site, I see that the re-issues of the Airfix > Gloster Gladiator and TBD-1 Devastator are at No 5 and No 10 in the charts [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. All the companies have to do is scan eBay on a weekly basis. There are plenty of ancient/old kits that are still in demand and drawing more money than the new high tech kits. The ABC Company may view this and decided to start re-popping the old kit. The XYZ Company may see this as a market opportunity to make a new kit of the same subject. RobG > Having looked at the Hannants site, I see that the re-issues of the Airfix > Gloster Gladiator and TBD-1 Devastator are at No 5 and No 10 in the charts [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. I for one am glad to see them return, since I am into nostalgia building and am on a budget. High end expensive kits are pretty rare for me. But I also hope that they raise enough cash to turn out new kits for those who want them. And I think that's the idea. >> Having looked at the Hannants site, I see that the re-issues of the Airfix >> Gloster Gladiator and TBD-1 Devastator are at No 5 and No 10 in the charts [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >for me. But I also hope that they raise enough cash to turn out new >kits for those who want them. And I think that's the idea. i hope so too. love airfix >Having looked at the Hannants site, I see that the re-issues of the Airfix >Gloster Gladiator and TBD-1 Devastator are at No 5 and No 10 in the charts [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >the equivalent Valom kits. Okay, so it's going to need a lot of work, but >I'm supposed to be a modeller... both the airfix and the lindberg take a bit of work but you can get a nice glad from both. more interior on the lindberg and 3 piece glass. On May 9, 8:12 am, some...@some.domain wrote: > In article <TuKdnXtr2-7_ibnVnZ2dnUVZ8radn...@giganews.com>, "Enzo Matrix" <enz...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >Having looked at the Hannants site, I see that the re-issues of the Airfix [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Hey dude! Picked up a Lindberg 1/72 Sikorsky Sea King yesterday. Knowing that you like Lindberg I thought that you may have use of one. Yes? No? Let me know either way. Tom >On May 9, 8:12=A0am, some...@some.domain wrote: >> In article <TuKdnXtr2-7_ibnVnZ2dnUVZ8radn...@giganews.com>, "Enzo Matrix" = [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > >Tom yes! tell me what you need, tom. i'll take that like grant took richmond, well, politely. thanks! On May 9, 11:12 am, some...@some.domain wrote: > In article <TuKdnXtr2-7_ibnVnZ2dnUVZ8radn...@giganews.com>, "Enzo Matrix" <enz...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >Having looked at the Hannants site, I see that the re-issues of the Airfix [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Yeahbut... In all honesty, the Lindberg Glad started life as Inpact (Britain), thence to Pyro, then Life-Like. Linfberg didn't make these molds, they bought 'em! >On May 9, 11:12=A0am, some...@some.domain wrote: >> In article <TuKdnXtr2-7_ibnVnZ2dnUVZ8radn...@giganews.com>, "Enzo Matrix" = [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] >thence to Pyro, then Life-Like. >Linfberg didn't make these molds, they bought 'em! you're right! i even have a life line with the dry tranfer decals....duh. still a nice kit. > >On May 9, 11:12=A0am, some...@some.domain wrote: > >> In article <TuKdnXtr2-7_ibnVnZ2dnUVZ8radn...@giganews.com>, "Enzo Matrix" = [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > you're right! i even have a life line with the dry tranfer decals....duh. > still a nice kit. I should read farther down the thread. Duh. Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. >> In article > <213d7671-5926-4128-8db2-4f2ed77d50da@24g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>, The Old [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] > >Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. it's been a duh day, doo dah. > >Having looked at the Hannants site, I see that the re-issues of the Airfix > >Gloster Gladiator and TBD-1 Devastator are at No 5 and No 10 in the charts [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > both the airfix and the lindberg take a bit of work but you can get a nice > glad from both. more interior on the lindberg and 3 piece glass. Lindberg has a TBD? I'm pretty sure they have a TBF but didn't know about the other. Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. >> In article <TuKdnXtr2-7_ibnVnZ2dnUVZ8radnZ2d@giganews.com>, "Enzo Matrix" > <enzo55@hotmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > >Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. i believe he meant airfix, bill. i don't think lindberg has one either. see the latest lindbeg press blurb? some nice reissues including 1/72. the fw190 is there though it has such a long snoot i could think it's a ta. > >> In article <TuKdnXtr2-7_ibnVnZ2dnUVZ8radnZ2d@giganews.com>, "Enzo Matrix" > > <enzo55@hotmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > >Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. > i believe he meant airfix, bill. i don't think lindberg has one either. I got my TBDs and Gladiators crossed. > see the latest lindbeg press blurb? some nice reissues including 1/72. Nope. Where'd you find them? > the fw190 is there though it has such a long snoot i could think it's a ta. I know it is beefier than the old Airfix 190D. My first one taught me lots about weathering and panel lines. It was a successful experiment, in that way. Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. >> >> In article <TuKdnXtr2-7_ibnVnZ2dnUVZ8radnZ2d@giganews.com>, "Enzo Matrix" >> > <enzo55@hotmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > >Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. the send out a newsletter, go to the website and sign up. they don't soam you to death. > Having looked at the Hannants site, I see that the re-issues of the > Airfix Gloster Gladiator and TBD-1 Devastator are at No 5 and No 10 > in the charts respectively. I see that the Gladiator is now at number 2. Airfix must be pleased! SignatureEnzo I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. >> Having looked at the Hannants site, I see that the re-issues of the >> Airfix Gloster Gladiator and TBD-1 Devastator are at No 5 and No 10 >> in the charts respectively. > > I see that the Gladiator is now at number 2. Airfix must be pleased! And now it's at number 1, with the new Fulmar at No 9 and the TBD at number 10. Just wait till the Xtrakit Sea Vixen is released. I bet that goes straight in at number 1. SignatureEnzo I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. > Just wait till the Xtrakit Sea Vixen is released. I bet that goes straight > in at number 1. The perils of working rather than spending all my time keeping up! When is that coming out? What scale? I suspect it will be 1/72 but I could still be tempted. Really I want a 1/48 one, every time the Dynavector appears on EvilBay it goes over £60 and there's absolutely no way I'm doing that. >> Just wait till the Xtrakit Sea Vixen is released. I bet that goes >> straight in at number 1. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Dynavector appears on EvilBay it goes over £60 and there's absolutely > no way I'm doing that. https://www.hannants.co.uk/search/?FULL=XK72003 It will probably be available in the next week or so. I have two on order. Like the Xtrakit Meteor, it will by an MPM production. MPM will also be releasing the FAW1 version in due course. SignatureEnzo I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. >>> Just wait till the Xtrakit Sea Vixen is released. I bet that goes >>> straight in at number 1. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Like the Xtrakit Meteor, it will by an MPM production. MPM will also be > releasing the FAW1 version in due course. Ah, I see. Interesting to see XP924 in its RAE markings there. Thankfully no Red Bull decals provided for "that" period of its life by the looks of things. >>>> Just wait till the Xtrakit Sea Vixen is released. I bet that goes >>>> straight in at number 1. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Thankfully no Red Bull decals provided for "that" period of its life > by the looks of things. If this were a Revell kit, those would be the main marking options. I bet that someone releases a decal sheet for the Red Bull scheme, though. SignatureEnzo I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. >>>>> Just wait till the Xtrakit Sea Vixen is released. I bet that goes >>>>> straight in at number 1. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > I bet that someone releases a decal sheet for the Red Bull scheme, though. I fear you could be right. The only salvation may be Red Bull wanting a license fee for their trade marks, hopefully that will discourage people. >>>>>> Just wait till the Xtrakit Sea Vixen is released. I bet that goes >>>>>> straight in at number 1. [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > a license fee for their trade marks, hopefully that will discourage > people. You never know... It's quite possible that Red Bull might produce the decal sheet themselves. SignatureEnzo I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. >>> Just wait till the Xtrakit Sea Vixen is released. I bet that goes >>> straight in at number 1. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >Like the Xtrakit Meteor, it will by an MPM production. MPM will also be >releasing the FAW1 version in due course. are the mpm boxings consistent quality? i have a bv 141, and it's almost excellent. >>>> Just wait till the Xtrakit Sea Vixen is released. I bet that goes >>>> straight in at number 1. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > are the mpm boxings consistent quality? i have a bv 141, and it's > almost excellent. The only MPM kit that I have built is the Metoer F8 (actually the Xtrakit boxing). It's of very high quality but as a short-run kit it has some (very) minor issues. For instance, there are no locating pins in the fuselage halves. It's never going to fall together like a Tamigawa kit but then Tamigawa are never going to produce a Meteor F8. I believe that MPM and Special Hobby are essentially the same company. I have a Special Hobby F-86H in my stash. I was rather impressed with that. Again, no locating pins but that's par for the course. If the Sea Vixen matches these kits then I'll be pretty much ecstatic. I'm very much looking forward to this kit. I already have the Xtradecal sheet and I've picked out my choices, one from Victorious and one from Eagle. Maybe I *am* my own worst enemy because even if this kit were a re-pop of the old FROG kit, I'd still buy some! SignatureEnzo I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. >>>>> Just wait till the Xtrakit Sea Vixen is released. I bet that goes >>>>> straight in at number 1. [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] >Eagle. Maybe I *am* my own worst enemy because even if this kit were a >re-pop of the old FROG kit, I'd still buy some! you're doomed, DOOMED! i tell ya. your only safe course of action is to build, and build and hope you can build your way to true the nerdvana all kit builders seek. the bv 141 kit is basically the same as your kits, so i'm not too worried. i can handle no pins since i usually knock those off first thing so i can make the halves line up. i often glue them seperatly so i can avoid seams to sand. i may need to build a sea vixen, were they used by the faa? > >>>>> Just wait till the Xtrakit Sea Vixen is released. I bet that goes > >>>>> straight in at number 1. [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > the halves line up. i often glue them seperatly so i can avoid seams to sand. > i may need to build a sea vixen, were they used by the faa? Uh, yeah. I don't recall anyone else ever flying one. Well, the RAE but they didn't leave British service. Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. >> In article <SMSdnWRzpouPurrVnZ2dnUVZ8szinZ2d@giganews.com>, "Enzo Matrix" > <enzo55@hotmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > >Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. oops, i was thinking of a completely different ac! i was thinking of the carrier version spit, don't ask me why. something with 8 contra rotators and a square wing. i don't know where that picture came from. yeah, faa....duh. but now i want to build a a vixen. damn, de havilland, too. thanks bill. |
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