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Model Forum / General / Models / May 200865th anniversary of the Dambusters raid
Some pretty evocative footage of the BBMF Lancaster getting low over Derwent Water over at the BBC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7404052.stm > Some pretty evocative footage of the BBMF Lancaster getting low over Derwent > Water over at the BBC: > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7404052.stm nitpick: The Derwent Reservoir is in Derbyshire, and is where 617 practiced before the raid. Derwent Reservoir http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=derwent+reservoir+derbyshire&sl l=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=56.200193,79.628906&ie=UTF8&ll=53.409327,-1.72348&spn= 0.083703,0.155525&z=12 Derwent Water http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=derwent+water&sll=53.352191,-1. 804504&sspn=0.670513,1.244202&ie=UTF8&ll=54.592754,-3.144493&spn=0.081356,0.1555 25&z=12 Derwent Water is in the Lake District, Cumbria, 100 miles away, and has no dam. On May 16, 3:14 pm, Alan Dicey <a...@removethis.diceyhome.free- online.co.uk> wrote: > > Some pretty evocative footage of the BBMF Lancaster getting low over Derwent > > Water over at the BBC: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Derwent Water is in the Lake District, Cumbria, 100 miles away, and has > no dam. cool. just ordered the dvd before I saw this post....weird timing... great movie! Craig >On May 16, 3:14=A0pm, Alan Dicey <a...@removethis.diceyhome.free- >online.co.uk> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > >Craig the special effects are a howl. the machine gun bursts are scratchees on the film. the lancs and dams aren't too bad and the actors are very good. for a war time film, i give it a solid A. On May 16, 7:24 pm, some...@some.domain wrote: > In article <0fe5df16-50af-46d5-9d77-bdef45cec...@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>, "cr...@earthlink.net" <cr...@earthlink.net> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > film. the lancs and dams aren't too bad and the actors are very good. for a > war time film, i give it a solid A. I think I read once that Disney did the FX for the movie.. >On May 16, 7:24=A0pm, some...@some.domain wrote: >> In article <0fe5df16-50af-46d5-9d77-bdef45cec...@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.c= [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > >I think I read once that Disney did the FX for the movie.. seems way below even wartime dis... > >On May 16, 3:14=A0pm, Alan Dicey <a...@removethis.diceyhome.free- > >online.co.uk> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > film. the lancs and dams aren't too bad and the actors are very good. for a > war time film, i give it a solid A. It's one of my faves and I don't think the gunbursts look all that bad. The sound of all those Merlins was a highlight, too. Watching Bob Hoover at air shows, I can tell those were real Merlins they recorded. Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. >> In article > <0fe5df16-50af-46d5-9d77-bdef45cec59c@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > >Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. they don't look bad, they just crack me up. we swiped the idea for a student film/star wars parody. > >> [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > they recorded. > And, of course, something got dropped out of the movie in its later releases- that being the name of the little black dog that Wing Commander Guy Gibson had as a pet, and that died before the attack...so to honor it, he chose its name as a codeword to signal success in the attacks on the dams. The dog's name was...dare I say it?..."Nigger": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dam_Busters_(film) That's going to really work against a historically accurate refilming of the story. ;-) Pat > cool. just ordered the dvd before I saw this post....weird timing... > great movie! > Keep an eye on all the AA tracers coming up at the planes as they attack, as well as getting into the exact attack position as their targeting devices converge before releasing their bombs at the dams. "Dambusters" and "633 Squadron" formed the entire basis of the attack scene on the Death Star in "Star Wars". Pat >"Dambusters" and "633 Squadron" formed the entire basis of the attack >scene on the Death Star in "Star Wars". If you haven't seen it already, check out this melding of 'Star Wars' audio and 'Dambusters' video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NMfBKrdErY Regards, Ralph > If you haven't seen it already, check out this melding of 'Star Wars' > audio and 'Dambusters' video. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NMfBKrdErY > Note the Y-Wings getting annihilated in their futile attack, like the Devastators at Midway. When Lucas stole (and boy, did he outright steal a lot*), he stole from the best. :-D * Which neatly explains why the three prequels suck. He could grab a chunk here and there from existing stories and movies and combine them, but trying to do something original completely defeated him. Melkor ran into the same problem in Tolkien's "The Silmarillion"... he could do hybrids and and warped versions of anything that existed in Middle Earth, but making something original and new was completely beyond his abilities. And let's not even get started on where Tolkien took a lot of his goodies from in LOTR, except to say that as much as he hated "The Wizard Of Oz" there's a lot of similarities there. Pat >> If you haven't seen it already, check out this melding of 'Star Wars' >> audio and 'Dambusters' video. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > >Pat that tolkien book was the best sleeping pill ever. 10 pages and zonk! > Some pretty evocative footage of the BBMF Lancaster getting low over Derwent > Water over at the BBC: > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7404052.stm > I liked how they opened the bomb-bay doors... even though the Dambuster Lancaster's didn't _have_ bomb-bay doors. That being said...boy, but was that one astounding attack operation! Pat >> Some pretty evocative footage of the BBMF Lancaster getting low over >> Derwent Water over at the BBC: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I liked how they opened the bomb-bay doors... even though the > Dambuster Lancaster's didn't _have_ bomb-bay doors. The bouncing bomb that they used was the wrong shape. That is because in 1954, when the film was made, the design of Upkeep was still secret.  SignatureEnzo I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. Enzo Matrix said the following on 19/05/2008 11:46: >>> Some pretty evocative footage of the BBMF Lancaster getting low over >>> Derwent Water over at the BBC: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > The bouncing bomb that they used was the wrong shape. That is because in > 1954, when the film was made, the design of Upkeep was still secret. I seem to remember one of the crew being interviewed about a previous anniversary flypast possibly just a couple of years ago over the Derwent dam being 'a bit hairy' as the Lanc disappears over it, losing altitude somewhat and we hear some popping (sounds more like flapping or fluttering in the engines). It's seen clearly in news footage of the day. Richard Brooks said the following on 19/05/2008 20:55: > Enzo Matrix said the following on 19/05/2008 11:46: >>>> Some pretty evocative footage of the BBMF Lancaster getting low over [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > somewhat and we hear some popping (sounds more like flapping or > fluttering in the engines). It's seen clearly in news footage of the day. I remember now! It was something to do with a sudden downdraught hitting the aircraft. |
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