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Model Forum / General / Models / June 2008Parts eating carpet
So... I'm just about to put the finishing touches to my Tamiya FW-190D. I have to put five assemblies on it - propellor and spinner (I solved the spiral problem), windscreen, canopy and two flap assemblies. Fifteen minutes work, tops. So, what do I find? I find that I *cannot* find one of the flap assemblies! AAAAARRRRGGGGHHHHHH! I have an small airtight plastic container in which I keep all completed assemblies just so that I *won't* lose them. For some odd reason this time I neglected to put the flap assemblies in it. I haven't a clue where it went. The other one was sat right where I left it, on top of the spray booth. The one I want is nowhere to be seen. So, I started a search. Found it almost immediately! No... that's the one I already have. Bugger! I "found" it three times until I had the sense to put the remaining one away inside the box where they both should have been in the first place. I still cannot find the missing one. I'm going to blame the parts eating carpet even though I', not totally convinced that the carpet is the culprit. I mean, it's not exactly a large component, but then it's not exactly tiny either. And it's not exactly a problem. The flap assembly is a piece of Eduard PE. I have another three sheets knocking around so it's a simple matter to build another one, but it's just frustrating. And I can't bash my head against a brick wall because I knocked 'em all down in the spinner spiral incident. Mind you, knowing my luck I'll build another component from another sheet, fit it and complete the model. The second that I do, the missing flap assembly will turn up, laughing all over its face. <sigh>  SignatureEnzo I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. We'll be in trouble if the parts eating carpet ever mates with the sock eating dryer!!! > So... I'm just about to put the finishing touches to my Tamiya FW-190D. I > have to put five assemblies on it - propellor and spinner (I solved the [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. It's not the carpet that eats it per se. It is the styrene bugs. What has happened lately is that a change in environment (the growth in PE) has caused a mutation of the styrene eating bugs so that a new variety has been born- the photoetch brass eating bugs. You need to clean the carpet with paint thinner, which will kill both varieties of bugs :-) On May 21, 8:23 am, Don Stauffer in Minnesota <stauf...@usfamily.net> wrote: > > So... I'm just about to put the finishing touches to my Tamiya FW-190D. I > > have to put five assemblies on it - propellor and spinner (I solved the [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > has been born- the photoetch brass eating bugs. You need to clean the > carpet with paint thinner, which will kill both varieties of bugs :-) ROTFL On May 21, 8:23 am, Don Stauffer in Minnesota <stauf...@usfamily.net> wrote: > > So... I'm just about to put the finishing touches to my Tamiya FW-190D. I > > have to put five assemblies on it - propellor and spinner (I solved the [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > has been born- the photoetch brass eating bugs. You need to clean the > carpet with paint thinner, which will kill both varieties of bugs :-) ISTR an article in Scale Auto many years ago about a spray to prevent styrene from being eaten... : It's not the carpet that eats it per se. It is the styrene bugs. What : has happened lately is that a change in environment (the growth in PE) : has caused a mutation of the styrene eating bugs so that a new variety : has been born- the photoetch brass eating bugs. You need to clean the : carpet with paint thinner, which will kill both varieties of bugs :-) They also seem to have an appetite for airbrush return springs. Sigh. Bruce Signature------------------------------------------------------------------------ "I like bad!" Bruce Burden Austin, TX. - Thuganlitha The Power and the Prophet Robert Don Hughes So, my ol' kitty-kat, Mr. Furry Fred, sez it's all due to greeblings. They're probably living in the carpet. >So... I'm just about to put the finishing touches to my Tamiya FW-190D. I >have to put five assemblies on it - propellor and spinner (I solved the [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >fit it and complete the model. The second that I do, the missing flap >assembly will turn up, laughing all over its face. <sigh> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Ken Leonard ken_leonard@NOSPAM.earthlink.net [Edit it to make it work.] > Mind you, knowing my luck I'll build another component from another sheet, > fit it and complete the model. The second that I do, the missing flap [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. This brings up a question (a serious one). When mentioning how small plastic and PE parts bounce when they hit my vinyl tile floor, a modeling friend says he has a small carpet under his modeling chair. He says parts do not bounce when they hit the carpet and so are easier to find. How do other folks feel about this? What kind of a floor surface is under your building area? On May 29, 9:44 am, Don Stauffer in Minnesota <stauf...@usfamily.net> wrote: > > Mind you, knowing my luck I'll build another component from another sheet, > > fit it and complete the model. The second that I do, the missing flap [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > to find. How do other folks feel about this? What kind of a floor > surface is under your building area? I'm not sure I agree 100% with this. I have an area rug under my workbench (an office-type carpet) and parts still bounce clear off it onto the surrounding concrete basement floor. However, some parts do appear to "stick" where they land. I guess it depends on the weight of the part and what kind of angle it's at when it hits. >I'm not sure I agree 100% with this. I have an area rug under my >workbench (an office-type carpet) and parts still bounce clear off it >onto the surrounding concrete basement floor. However, some parts do >appear to "stick" where they land. I guess it depends on the weight >of the part and what kind of angle it's at when it hits. My work area has a bare concrete floor. I see pretty good close up without glasses. I can still read six point print in poor light. But when I drop a part my eyes can follow where it is going until it disappears from focus at around 30 inches. The bench height is 30 inches and another 10 to 24 inches to eye level. So a small part disappears just before it hits the floor. It must be ground effect or whatever for the part is seldom ever found where my senses tell me it should land. It can be as far as three feet away (powered flight?) My best recourse is to sweep the floor with my hand. Using a broom would doom it to disappear forever. Some fine day I will modify an apron where I will attach the hem to the table edge to form a cloth spread. That should be good for catching dropped small parts without restricting movement. If someone does this first do let us know if the idea works. Theoretically a black apron should be the best color to provide contrast. My black sofa cushions are great at showing up every little piece of lint that existed. > Some fine day I will modify an apron where I will attach the hem to the table edge to form > a cloth spread.That should be good for catching dropped small parts withoutrestricting > movement. If someone does this first do let us know if the idea works. Theoretically a > black apron should be the best color to provide contrast. Be careful! I had a friend try this in his workshop. It worked in until one evening when he'd been working for about an hour and suddenly he heard his wife scream. My friend sprang up to see what was the matter. In doing so, he suffered whiplash when the apron wouldn't stretch any further. As he lurched back, the workbench jerked, causing most everything on it to go flying - including the Planet Models Me. 329 that he was building. Anyway, he staggered into the kitchen with a huge red welt around his neck and a close-to-$50 resin model now mostly ruined only to find that his wife had seen a spider (okay, it WAS pretty big). I almost wet myself when he told this story. I tried the apron attached to the bench, too, and it can be cumbersome. Simplest solution I've found is to save the large clear plastic bags my newspaper comes in and simply do all fine work, plastic, resin, or photo etched, inside the bag. At least they don't fly very far, Gary Anderson on 5/29/2008 2:13 PM PaPaPeng said the following: > >> I'm not sure I agree 100% with this. I have an area rug under my [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > every little piece of lint that existed. > Not good. If you get up or lean back, the apron will spring to tightness launching the small part higher than the second stage of the Saturn 5 rocket. :-) My work bench is one of those old 60" x 30" formica covered office desks, with a small and large drawer on the right side, the large one for hanging pentaflex folders, and on the left side, 3 small drawers, and a pull out board above the drawers (for a typewriter?) where I mount a small vise and lay out the instructions. There is a small, but wide, drawer in the center above the knee space. If I remember when handling small parts, I'll pull that center drawer open a couple of inches in hopes of catching some small part before it drops any further. Of course, that drawer has to kept pretty neat or the part will get lost in all the junk. SignatureBill In Hamptonburgh, NY To email, remove the double zeroes after @ > On Thu, 29 May 2008 09:59:36 -0700 (PDT), Pauli G > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > to provide contrast. My black sofa cushions are great at showing up > every little piece of lint that existed. I use an apron. I first used to wear it, but kept getting it caught when I would get up quickly. But I then fastened it to the bench underside so it drapes over my lap. While it helps, parts sometimes miss the apron, especially photo etch pieces. Sometimes the tweezers slip and send the part on a trajectory that completely misses the apron. Plastic parts can also spring on a trajectory. So I STILL end up spending a lot of time examining the floor. I am sure I know every paint drop and every piece of masking tape that has stuck to the floor. Another thing- my apron is dark blue. Hard to find most parts. I intend to make another out of white or light colored cloth. Don Stauffer in Minnesota <stauffer@usfamily.net> wrote in news:a57c54c3-fef4- 4434-b4e5-d700a9d28f16@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com: >> On Thu, 29 May 2008 09:59:36 -0700 (PDT), Pauli G >> [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > Another thing- my apron is dark blue. Hard to find most parts. I > intend to make another out of white or light colored cloth. I glad to see all this. I was begining to question my sanity and perceptions of reality. Couple days ago I dropped a tailwheel for an FW-190, 1/72 and I'd had to cut it down as a retracted version wasn't provided and already painted black. I dropped it of course, searched like a mad man for 10 minutes gave up and the next day looked down and there it was in the middle of the search area. Frank > Don Stauffer in Minnesota <stauffer@usfamily.net> wrote in news:a57c54c3-fef4- > 4434-b4e5-d700a9d28f16@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com: [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > > Frank Usually they wait 'til you find or make a replacement. Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. on 5/29/2008 9:44 AM Don Stauffer in Minnesota said the following: > >> Mind you, knowing my luck I'll build another component from another sheet, [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > My model shop floor is covered with a grey commercial carpet. The woven kind with no nap. I have a 30" x 45" Black carpet under my chair and desk area. I chose black because few pieces are painted black and they would be easier to spot. I also have a black apron that covers my legs. Sometimes the part lands on the apron and stays there, or if it falls off, it won't bounce as far as if it fell between my legs. The apron also serves to protect my pants if I knock over a bottle of paint. I know that I am probably the only one that has ever knocked over a bottle of paint into my lap. :-) I ruined a pair of jeans when I dropped a bottle of brown paint between my legs. Guess what it looked like to the uninformed? SignatureBill In Hamptonburgh, NY To email, remove the double zeroes after @ > I also have a black apron that covers my legs. Sometimes the part > lands on the apron and stays there, or if it falls off, it won't > bounce as far as if it fell between my legs. The apron also serves to > protect my pants if I knock over a bottle of paint. I know that I am > probably the only one that has ever knocked over a bottle of paint > into my lap. :-) No. You're not... :-D SignatureEnzo I wear the cheese. It does not wear me. > > Mind you, knowing my luck I'll build another component from another sheet, > > fit it and complete the model. The second that I do, the missing flap [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > to find. How do other folks feel about this? What kind of a floor > surface is under your building area? Bare concrete and it's so smooth you can usually see parts with a flashlight held just off the surface. Note the 'usually'. There are some parts still missing and presumed crossed to the 'other' dimension. Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. on 5/30/2008 3:22 AM Mad-Modeller said the following: > >> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. > Don't forget all those shavings and sprue pieces carved off the parts down there. Gotta keep one of those dust busters around to clean off the carpet/floor just in case there's a missing piece mixed in with the scraps. SignatureBill In Hamptonburgh, NY To email, remove the double zeroes after @ |
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