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Typhoon and Thunderbolt bubble canopies

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PaPaPeng - 02 Jun 2008 05:36 GMT
I vaguely recall having read that when the Hawker Typhoon cage type
canopy was cut down and replaced with a bubble canopy the same type
bubble canopy was also used to convert the Thunderbolt.  Is this
correct?  If so it will be worth my while to do the same to the old
1/32 Revell Typhoon and Thunderbolt.  They are cheap and big enough to
cut up and modify.
jthmpson@arvotek.net - 02 Jun 2008 21:18 GMT
> I vaguely recall having read that when the Hawker Typhoon cage type
> canopy was cut down and replaced with a bubble canopy the same type
> bubble canopy was also used to convert the Thunderbolt.  Is this
> correct?  If so it will be worth my while to do the same to the old
> 1/32 Revell Typhoon and Thunderbolt.  They are cheap and big enough to
> cut up and modify.

Hate to "burst your bubble", but this seems highly unlikely. The
canopies might be somewhat similar, or even identical, but if so, this
is purely coincidence. Both aircraft were converted to "bubble"
canopies as engineered, production-line design revisions, not some
kind of chainsaw field modification with leftover canopies.
Thunderbolts were built in the US by Republic; Typhoons were built in
England by Hawker. I doubt that they collaborated on the canopy
design. Check your drawings before you go firing up your 1/32-scale
Husqvarna - maybe they're close enough that it won't matter. I suspect
the Typhoon has a more slender fuselage (and therefore narrower
canopy) than the T-bolt, though.

John
TankBuilder2@yahoo.ca - 02 Jun 2008 21:50 GMT
> I vaguely recall having read that when the Hawker Typhoon cage type
> canopy was cut down and replaced with a bubble canopy the same type
> bubble canopy was also used to convert the Thunderbolt.  Is this
> correct?  If so it will be worth my while to do the same to the old
> 1/32 Revell Typhoon and Thunderbolt.  They are cheap and big enough to
> cut up and modify.

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Hi there.

If you do cut up the Thunderbolt can I get the 8 .50 cal wing guns
from you?

Cheers from Peter
PaPaPeng - 03 Jun 2008 05:44 GMT
>> I vaguely recall having read that when the Hawker Typhoon cage type
>> canopy was cut down and replaced with a bubble canopy the same type
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>
>Cheers from Peter

I haven't opened either box yet and likely wouldn't get to this
project for some years.  Usually if an idea crosses my mind I mull on
it so that I am in the right frame of mind to pick up more ideas along
the way. I have something like a dozen unfinished model on the bench
right now and enough stashed away to last me until I join that great
big hobby club in the sky.  Worse.  I joined my local ship modeller's
group and that's a whole new area (RC scale) that I am already quite
deep into.

Anyway back to your request are the wing guns just tubes or are all 8
in detail items that can be displayed with the gun panels open?  I
don't do that kind of "open for inspection" and all moving parts
"moved" models.  If they are separate items I can probably open the
box and let you have them.
Stephen Bierce - 03 Jun 2008 02:17 GMT
>I vaguely recall having read that when the Hawker Typhoon cage type
>canopy was cut down and replaced with a bubble canopy the same type
>bubble canopy was also used to convert the Thunderbolt.  Is this
>correct?  If so it will be worth my while to do the same to the old
>1/32 Revell Typhoon and Thunderbolt.  They are cheap and big enough to
>cut up and modify.

The very first bubbletop Thunderbolt used Typhoon canopy hardware, so you
sort of have your story backwards.  Typhoon canopy -> Thunderbolt; then
both Typhoon and Thunderbolt develop parallel production versions using
similar canopies.  The Typhoon kept the same windshield in both versions so
I'm not sure if a Thunderbolt canopy would necessarily fit.

Stephen "FPilot" Bierce/IPMS #35922
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Mike - 03 Jun 2008 13:02 GMT
> I vaguely recall having read that when the Hawker Typhoon cage type
> canopy was cut down and replaced with a bubble canopy the same type
> bubble canopy was also used to convert the Thunderbolt.  Is this
> correct?  If so it will be worth my while to do the same to the old
> 1/32 Revell Typhoon and Thunderbolt.  They are cheap and big enough to
> cut up and modify.

The first bubble-top Thunderbold, the XP-47K, was created by cutting
down the fusilage decking of an early P-47D and installing a Typhoon
bubble canopy.  The bubble canopy used on the production Thunderbolts
was a different design.
frank - 03 Jun 2008 14:44 GMT
Unless you just wanted to spend money on a T-bolt, you could
just get the vac Typhoon bubble canopy from Squadron................

> I vaguely recall having read that when the Hawker Typhoon cage type
> canopy was cut down and replaced with a bubble canopy the same type
> bubble canopy was also used to convert the Thunderbolt.  Is this
> correct?  If so it will be worth my while to do the same to the old
> 1/32 Revell Typhoon and Thunderbolt.  They are cheap and big enough to
> cut up and modify.
PaPaPeng - 03 Jun 2008 20:07 GMT
>      Unless you just wanted to spend money on a T-bolt, you could
>just get the vac Typhoon bubble canopy from Squadron................

This is my other project.  I had always wanted to do vacuum forming.
I don't like the idea of using the kitchen oven.  I thought through
all manner of wiring up a stove heating element, building an oven
equivalent, temperature and timer controls, the whole enchilada.  The
it crossed my mind that a $24 toaster oven (on sale) had all the
elements I wanted - a  safe container (from shocks and from fires) and
a temperature control plus a timer. The toaster oven even has a glass
window to watch for melt plasticity.  Just the two controls alone from
a parts shop would have cost me a lot more than than 24 bucks.  I have
already made the vacuuming platen and box.  All that remains for me to
do is to carve the pattern.   Has anyone come up with a safe and sure
method that can use the plastic model canopy or part as the vacuum
pattern?
 
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