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Slightly OT: Current "Collectible Automobile".

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Mad-Modeller - 09 Jun 2008 06:48 GMT
While it is a 1/1 car magazine there is an article in this issue on
Mr. Ross Cousins.  He's an artist who has illustrated many cars for
brochures and even contributed some styling to various autos.  After
retiring from GM he did some painting for MPC boxart - most specifically
the original Star Wars' kits.
   OTOH, I hope he didn't have anything to do with the 'Profile Series'
boxings of Airfix kits. ;)

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
Peter W. - 12 Jun 2008 02:53 GMT
>     While it is a 1/1 car magazine there is an article in this issue on
> Mr. Ross Cousins.  He's an artist who has illustrated many cars for
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> Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.

Yes, this is a great magazine!  I also never imagined seeing a full
blown writeup about Ford Maverick in CA Mag!  They must be running out
of classic collectible American automobiles...  I can just see the
next one: Ford Pinto - complete story behind Ford's first sub-
compact.  :-)

Peteski
eyeball - 12 Jun 2008 04:16 GMT
> >     While it is a 1/1 car magazine there is an article in this issue on
> > Mr. Ross Cousins.  He's an artist who has illustrated many cars for
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> Peteski

I'm waiting for them to preach the gospel of Yugo...
willshak - 12 Jun 2008 04:18 GMT
on 6/11/2008 9:53 PM Peter W. said the following:
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>>     While it is a 1/1 car magazine there is an article in this issue on
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> Peteski
>  

The Maverick was a good car. I bought one the first year it was offered.
It was cheaply built, but had good lines. If you saw one for the first
time today, you would think it was a new car. The large engine bay
looked almost empty with that small 6 cylinder engine, and you could
almost stand on the ground inside the bay while working on the engine.
Ford sold almost 580,000 Mavs in its first year, which was only second
to the first Mustang sales of 619,000 units. But just like other good
selling Ford cars, they screwed with it.
I never owned a Pinto, but did have a '60 Falcon Futura.

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someone@some.domain - 12 Jun 2008 04:28 GMT
>on 6/11/2008 9:53 PM Peter W. said the following:
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>selling Ford cars, they screwed with it.
>I never owned a Pinto, but did have a '60 Falcon Futura.

falcons......drool.
Stephen Bierce - 12 Jun 2008 04:52 GMT
>The Maverick was a good car. I bought one the first year it was offered.
>It was cheaply built, but had good lines. If you saw one for the first
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>to the first Mustang sales of 619,000 units. But just like other good
>selling Ford cars, they screwed with it.

The Maverick my parents owned--briefly--was a lemon.  It was factory new
and already rusting.  We got our previous car back (a Delta 88 that was six
years old) and kept it running for another three or four years.

Stephen "FPilot" Bierce/IPMS #35922
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OM - 12 Jun 2008 05:51 GMT
>The Maverick my parents owned--briefly--was a lemon.  It was factory new
>and already rusting.

...A lot of new Mavericks that were sold to people who lived along the
coastal regions had that problem, and it was traced back to solvents
not being totally cleaned off before the base coat was applied. Ford
was reportedly jacking around with new paint formulas back then,
according to a couple of mechanic buddies who specialize in vehicles
that are Found On Road Dead, and the Maverick was one of the models
they field tested the new formulas with.

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The Old Man - 12 Jun 2008 12:25 GMT
> >The Maverick my parents owned--briefly--was a lemon.  It was factory new
> >and already rusting.
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Gave new meaning to Fix Or Replace Daily......
OM - 12 Jun 2008 17:21 GMT
>Gave new meaning to Fix Or Replace Daily......

...I've owned only one Ford in my life, and it was a 1979 LTD. I
bought it for two reasons:

1) That boat, despite poor gas mileage, was built like a
battleship(*), and until the gas line broke and blew gas across the
manifolds and the thing burned up in a Wal-Mart parking lot, the only
thing that went wrong with it was the alternator, which died about
every three months. I always kept two spares in the glove compartment,
natch.

2) At that time, some guy was making fiberglass Batmobile body
replicas with multiple mounting points. One of the chassis that it
would fit was the 78-79 run of the LTD. The car only cost me $1500,
and had a new tranny in it, so even if I didn't get the body replaced
I was still ahead for a backup car.

...In retrospect, there were other issues - the seats were
disintegrating, the radio sucked, and the back carpet had rotted due
to a window seal leak. But I actually miss that car as much as I miss
my Continetaurus - the former I could use as an apartment, the latter
was a car that I *wore*. But the sheer irony is that I've never bought
a kit of any car I've ever owned - only those I wish I had. Which is
probably why the only kit I've got these days is an AMTronic, and it's
still in box unbuilt, waiting for the day I decide whether or not to
build it as a Federation ground shuttle :-)

...Actually, the AMTronic brings up a good question. The original kit
had one of those "3D Ilusion" stickers for a solar panel. IIRC, a
Sylvania spin-off company developed the process to make such an
illusory surface, and it was based on 3D Baseball Card processes.
Sylvania's in-house 3-ring binders had their front covers coated in
this stuff, and what was wild wias that when you placed anything on it
- say, a pencil, a pen, a quarter, a die - the illusory effect
actually took the depth out of the actual object, essentially
flattening it. I've been looking for sheets of this material for about
30 years now, and I'll be fracked if I've ever been able to find the
source. I actually called Sylvania's marketing department in the early
80's, and a really nice lady - who had two of those binders and loved
them! - spent weeks trying to find a source for the stuff, and came up
empty handed. She said they weren't making them for Sylvania any more,
but offered to send me one of hers. Had she asked me a few years
earlier, I'd have been greedy and taken her up on it. But by then I'd
become humbled and greatfully but graciously declined her offer,
considering how rare those things were she should save them for her
grandkids!

...So, anyone got any ideas on where to find, say, a legal-sized sheet
of that stuff? I can see lots of uses for it on kits for not just
solar panels, but the hexagonal pattern ones reflected so much light
that they'd look great in the floor of the Flying Sub!

(*) On the other hand, when some dickwad backed into my 1989
Continental - essentially a pimped-out Taurus - and shoved the left
fender into the righ fender of the rear end of the LTD, the LTD's
fender caved in while the Contitaurus only suffered a minor chip on
the fender rubber. Steel vs plastic ain't supposed to do that, kids!

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Peter W. - 17 Jun 2008 05:05 GMT
> The Maverick was a good car. I bought one the first year it was offered.
> It was cheaply built, but had good lines.
....
> Bill

That's where I totally disagree.  I find them extremely unatractive.
Their lines never did anything for me.  Same goes for Mustang II.
Hey, some like blondes others like brunettes yet others like them
bald... :-)

Peteski
Mad Modeller - 17 Jun 2008 07:07 GMT
> > The Maverick was a good car. I bought one the first year it was offered.
> > It was cheaply built, but had good lines.
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> Peteski

Not me.  I like 'em fuzzy at both ends. :)

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
OM - 12 Jun 2008 05:10 GMT
>I can just see the next one: Ford Pinto - complete story behind Ford's first sub-
>compact.  :-)

...You know, the real reason everyone disses on the Pinto these days
really boils down to one problem: they were absolutely impossible to
really have fun in the back seat unless you and/or your date were
about 4'2" :-/

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someone@some.domain - 12 Jun 2008 07:00 GMT
>>I can just see the next one: Ford Pinto - complete story behind Ford's first
> sub-
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>                                OM
if you can do it in a vw bug, you can do it anywhere.
Peter W. - 17 Jun 2008 05:02 GMT
> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:53:49 -0700 (PDT), "Peter W."
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>                                 OM

While that might be true the number contemporary cars which have rear
seats as small as Pinto had (or smaller) is huge!    Many teenagers of
dating age now own such cars.  Do you think that 30 years from now
they will be dissing all those Hyundais, Kias, Toyotas etc?

Pintos were cheap and crappy vehicles. No matter how you look at them.
Just like Chevy Vegas and AMC Gremlins.

Peteski
Mad Modeller - 12 Jun 2008 06:15 GMT
> >     While it is a 1/1 car magazine there is an article in this issue on
> > Mr. Ross Cousins.  He's an artist who has illustrated many cars for
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> Peteski

   Don't forget - they're over 30 years old now.  When was the last
time you saw one on the road?
   Aside from that, I'm a proud former Maverick owner and had mine for
11 years before being talked into trading it on an '81 Omni.  Oh, how I
wish I'd kept it!
   I had few problems doing maintenance and replaced the starter motor
right in the parking place in front of our house.  I kind of thought of
it as the new Model A.  My only annoyance with it was the lack of vent
windows, something that continued in every car I've owned since.
   "Mavis" was also unusual in having no chrome around the side
windows.  Every other Maverick I saw on the road had that.  Mine was one
of the first produced and had the tray under the dash.  Going around
curves meant that everything in the tray slid side-to-side.
   Yeah, I loved mine and wish I still had it.

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
someone@some.domain - 12 Jun 2008 07:02 GMT
>> >     While it is a 1/1 car magazine there is an article in this issue on
>> > Mr. Ross Cousins.  He's an artist who has illustrated many cars for
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>Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
i miss my 68 conti rust special.
 
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