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someone@some.domain - 26 Sep 2008 06:10 GMT
were they cello wrapprd or is it revell revisted?
The Old Man - 26 Sep 2008 11:37 GMT
On Sep 26, 1:10 am, some...@some.domain wrote:
> were they cello wrapprd or is it revell revisted?

Metal kits with plastic trim. Took some serious filing and fitting,
from what I remember. A buddy of mine built a number from the set.
someone@some.domain - 26 Sep 2008 16:23 GMT
>On Sep 26, 1:10=A0am, some...@some.domain wrote:
>> were they cello wrapprd or is it revell revisted?
>
>Metal kits with plastic trim. Took some serious filing and fitting,
>from what I remember. A buddy of mine built a number from the set.
was the box wrapped in cellophane?
The Old Man - 26 Sep 2008 21:53 GMT
On Sep 26, 11:23 am, some...@some.domain wrote:
> In article <251aa074-0ea5-4999-a3f2-181f0f4ee...@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, The Old Man <Braung...@verizon.net> wrote:>On Sep 26, 1:10=A0am, some...@some.domain wrote:
> >> were they cello wrapprd or is it revell revisted?
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>
> was the box wrapped in cellophane?

In those days (1961 - 1963) it would have been fairly heavy-duty
cardboard box wrapped in cellophane. Sorry, I misunderstood.
someone@some.domain - 26 Sep 2008 21:56 GMT
>On Sep 26, 11:23=A0am, some...@some.domain wrote:
>> In article <251aa074-0ea5-4999-a3f2-181f0f4ee...@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups=
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>In those days (1961 - 1963) it would have been fairly heavy-duty
>cardboard box wrapped in cellophane. Sorry, I misunderstood.
that's why they put pencils on erasers....so no sweat.
some clown on fleabay is crowing about his factory sealed cellophane hubley
kit. like some guys do with early revells.
i wasn't all that clear either...
AMPSOne@aol.com - 27 Sep 2008 01:36 GMT
Just remember that back in the early 1960s it was heavy-duty
cellophane and not modern shrink-wrap which many hobby shops or
individuals can put on in a matter of seconds.

Cookie Sewell
tomcervo - 27 Sep 2008 02:10 GMT
On Sep 26, 8:36�pm, AMPS...@aol.com wrote:
> Just remember that back in the early 1960s it was heavy-duty
> cellophane and not modern shrink-wrap which many hobby shops or
> individuals can put on in a matter of seconds.
>
> Cookie Sewell

By now it's close to yellow, taut as a drumhead and/or brittle as ice.
The folds are on the ends.
someone@some.domain - 27 Sep 2008 02:42 GMT
>On Sep 26, 8:36=EF=BF=BDpm, AMPS...@aol.com wrote:
>> Just remember that back in the early 1960s it was heavy-duty
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>By now it's close to yellow, taut as a drumhead and/or brittle as ice.
>The folds are on the ends.
in the picture, it looked dull and old.
someone@some.domain - 27 Sep 2008 02:41 GMT
>Just remember that back in the early 1960s it was heavy-duty
>cellophane and not modern shrink-wrap which many hobby shops or
>individuals can put on in a matter of seconds.
>
>Cookie Sewell
that's what this looked like, the old school, heavy duty wrap you needed
muscle to tear.
i emailed the guy, nice like, to see if he knows. i've heard of revell buyers
getting boxes of junk sprue. you know how some bastids will do anything for
money.
thanks, cookie.
what's your opinion of the academy stuart? anything i should fix?
AMPSOne@aol.com - 27 Sep 2008 17:42 GMT
> what's your opinion of the academy stuart? anything i should fix?

They got a lot right but also a lot wrong. Steve Zaloga said the best
thing to do is use the hull and some of the bits from the old Tamiya
one with parts from the new Academy kit (turrets mostly and some of
the interior) and either the original Tamiya suspension bits or better
still the AFV Club ones. The AFV Club tracks are fiddly but work
pretty well when you get them together, and they have two styles (flat
rubber shoe and three-bar cleat).

Cookie Sewell
someone@some.domain - 27 Sep 2008 19:51 GMT
>> what's your opinion of the academy stuart? anything i should fix?
>
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>
>Cookie Sewell

thank you kind sir. your advice is always welcome and always good.
but do i want to buy another kit for parts....? well, kinda.
frank - 27 Sep 2008 05:32 GMT
On Sep 26, 7:36 pm, AMPS...@aol.com wrote:
> Just remember that back in the early 1960s it was heavy-duty
> cellophane and not modern shrink-wrap which many hobby shops or
> individuals can put on in a matter of seconds.
>
> Cookie Sewell

I don't remember any kits being cellophane wrapped until the late 60s.
Mostly it was a fairly sturdy cardboard box, not the lightweight paper
crap they call a box nowadays. Only sealing was a piece of tape at 2
places in middle of box. Some weren't sealed at all.

Some boxes had the paper cover glued to the box as a seal, sort of how
the jigsaw puzzles are sealed nowadays.

Airfix had their bagged kits with paper hangers. They were always
thought of as exotic for some reason.

Nobody ever cared about scale or exact paints, weathering, though all
the Japanese hobby shops had models on display built by somebody who
would easily win at any modern modeling event. Every mom and pop shop
had built up stuff that enticed you to buy more.
someone@some.domain - 27 Sep 2008 06:14 GMT
>On Sep 26, 7:36=A0pm, AMPS...@aol.com wrote:
>> Just remember that back in the early 1960s it was heavy-duty
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>would easily win at any modern modeling event. Every mom and pop shop
>had built up stuff that enticed you to buy more.

i remember a few shows as a teen.
but the real killer was living in nurnbeurg 60-64. gues where i went every
xmas season? i would even hop the trolley after school. don't remember the
name of the square, but the church was the one with the figures that moved and
did stuff on the hour.
sometimes it would be really freakin' cold but we still toured around for
hours. for 50 pfenigs, about 12 1/2 cents, you could get a newspaper cone full
of the best french fries. had to bring your own catsup. the germans would
always chuckle and shake their heads....amis, they would say.
the model tents and the marklin tents were where i spent most time. trains
that never seem to get here.
Mad Modeller - 27 Sep 2008 04:30 GMT
> >On Sep 26, 11:23=A0am, some...@some.domain wrote:
> >> In article <251aa074-0ea5-4999-a3f2-181f0f4ee...@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups=
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> kit. like some guys do with early revells.
> i wasn't all that clear either...

As I recall, they were sealed at the ends with adhesive label paper.
I can't say about the metal kits, just the plastics.

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
someone@some.domain - 27 Sep 2008 04:56 GMT
>> In article
> <a3c243a6-0e8c-4806-a9b9-3d52561b1435@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, The Old
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>
>Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
i think the guy pulled it. he might be looking to see if it's complete.
i would hope that he wouldn't knowingly sell a box of spye and junk.
they were made in lancaster, sez on the box. or was the company just based
there? did you tour them?
their kits look pretty cool. next time i have some spare cash, i'll try one.
Mad-Modeller - 28 Sep 2008 04:50 GMT
> i think the guy pulled it. he might be looking to see if it's complete.
> i would hope that he wouldn't knowingly sell a box of spye and junk.
> they were made in lancaster, sez on the box. or was the company just based
> there? did you tour them?

Yep, Lancaster was their main factory location.  I know of about three
locations that had been plants.  One's downtown somewhere, the second is
about 8 blocks from here and is now a paper tag concern.  The last and
largest is about 2 miles from here and up until a few years ago the
'ghosts' of the company logo were still seen on the side of the
building.  Not sure who's in there now but the successive companies that
bought them used the building for awhile then moved manufacturing
overseas.  IIRC, Hasbro was the last one.
Never toured the plant but back in the '70s I delivered printing and
office supplies to the new plant.  All kinds of die-cast was chucked in
the dumpsters and I picked up a cap gun that lacked plastic grips and
used it as a paper weight in the truck.
The plastic packing line was near the truck docks so I could see the
women packing chrome-plated parts when delivering.

> their kits look pretty cool. next time i have some spare cash, i'll try one.

They certainly made the unusual but the plastics were simplistic.  Some
of the 'foreign' cars are still made and sold under Minicraft's name.  I
got one of the Rolls-Royces through Squadron and was surprised to see
they altered the window 'glass' moulding.  Otherwise the kit is the same
thing.

There's an opening hood (bonnet) but the engine is a drop in one-piece
moulding to fill the space.  Trunk (boot) opens and there's a spare to
fill it.  Not sure of the accuracy of the appearance of the trunk.

Undercart comprises wheels that push into vinyl tires and onto thick
metal axles.  These in turn slide into a chassis plate with simple
moulded-on detail.

Hubley also made a Renault Dauphine but I haven't seen that one re-released.

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
someone@some.domain - 28 Sep 2008 05:24 GMT
>> i think the guy pulled it. he might be looking to see if it's complete.
>> i would hope that he wouldn't knowingly sell a box of spye and junk.
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>
>Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.

ah, did you remember we saying we had one around 67-68? i really thought they
were better than bug's. we never did anything to it except oil. had it for
60-70 k miles and i don't think we even did tune-ups. cost was split among the
sib's, so nobody did anything.
i did pack 8 cheerleaders plus me in it after practice once. that was
exciting.
wish i could find pictures.
you had a cool childhood.
 
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