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Model Forum / General / Models / September 2008Cementing canopies
Well, I followed the advice offered here and got some watch cement from Micromark. After gluing in a few windows in my Trumpeter C-47, it was quickly obvious that the stuff is the same as good old Testor's tube glue, nothing different at all! After a couple of years of graduate school in organic chemistry, I can still recognize the toluene and xylene odors from both, and even the consistency is the same. So, nothing special about watch crystal cement from Micromark compared to Testor's tube glue. > Well, I followed the advice offered here and got some watch cement from > Micromark. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > is the same. So, nothing special about watch crystal cement from Micromark > compared to Testor's tube glue. ...it may smell the same, but IMO it ain't the same stuff. Testors used to for and cease the plastic, and I find this stuff doesn't. And if you have a large enough surface to use it as recommended - apply to both surfaces and press together once tacky - the stuff is permanent to a fault. And crystal clear...unlike Testors. And you can also use it to attach photo etch, which is something you can't do with Testors. May be the same smell, but it ain't the same stuff - not by a long shot.  Signature- Rufus >May be the same smell, but it ain't the same stuff - not by a long shot. ...And as much as you and I have snorted both, we're probably experts at it. Damn, I miss Old Red Tube...:-( OM Signature]=====================================[ ] OMBlog - http://www.io.com/~o_m/omworld [ ] Let's face it: Sometimes you *need* [ ] an obnoxious opinion in your day! [ ]=====================================[ It clearly crazes plastic and has both toluene and xylene. > It clearly crazes plastic and has both toluene and xylene. I've never had it craze plastic - you're likely using too much. As it's a contact cement, it takes very little. It's not CA, but it's stronger IMO. Signature- Rufus >> May be the same smell, but it ain't the same stuff - not by a long shot. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > OM ...what I really miss is the original formulation of Squadron green putty. That stuff was great. Then they messed with it and now it bubbles and is very hard to build...and the white stuff is brittle and cracks. Then they quit making Dr. Microtools...the Testors red putty looks like it, but I had mine separate in the tube on me and become totally useless. Thank goodness for Tamiya putty! And my dwindling stash of ole' red... Signature- Rufus >>> May be the same smell, but it ain't the same stuff - not by a long shot. >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >Thank goodness for Tamiya putty! And my dwindling stash of ole' red... for most mid to small stuff, auto glazing compound works well. it cuts fast and is easy to fix screwups. for craters and early kits, i still like 2 part epoxy. >>>> May be the same smell, but it ain't the same stuff - not by a long shot. >>> ...And as much as you and I have snorted both, we're probably experts [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > and is easy to fix screwups. for craters and early kits, i still like 2 part > epoxy. I never got the hang of being able to sand epoxy...I probably never mixed it right. Or tried to sand it too soon...I used bondo for a bit as a teen, and that stuff did work pretty well. Signature- Rufus >>>>> May be the same smell, but it ain't the same stuff - not by a long shot. >>>> ...And as much as you and I have snorted both, we're probably experts [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >mixed it right. Or tried to sand it too soon...I used bondo for a bit >as a teen, and that stuff did work pretty well. i took auto body to get out of wrestling or something. >>>>>> May be the same smell, but it ain't the same stuff - not by a long shot. >>>>> ...And as much as you and I have snorted both, we're probably experts [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > i took auto body to get out of wrestling or something. Heh...I wrestled for a season...and never took auto shop... My cousin next door used to do bodywork on cars in his spare time, so I had a ready supply of bondo to use on models if I wanted it. Signature- Rufus >>>>>>> May be the same smell, but it ain't the same stuff - not by a long shot. >>>>>> ...And as much as you and I have snorted both, we're probably experts [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >My cousin next door used to do bodywork on cars in his spare time, so I >had a ready supply of bondo to use on models if I wanted it. useful to have and know. especially with mom's car. > Then they quit making Dr. Microtools...the Testors red putty looks like > it, but I had mine separate in the tube on me and become totally useless. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > -- > - Rufus Rufus, Dr. Microtools red putty was just repackaged automotive glazing putty. I don't recall what brand but I remember having both of them together and thinking that Dr. Microtools was pretty clever to resell automotive product for hobby purposes. The stuff in both tubes I had looked and smelled the same. Peteski >> Then they quit making Dr. Microtools...the Testors red putty looks like >> it, but I had mine separate in the tube on me and become totally useless. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Peteski It was certainly great stuff...I'll have to hit the body shops and check into that. Signature- Rufus >Then they quit making Dr. Microtools... ...One of my mechanic friends says that's just automotive glazing putty that's been remarketed for 4x the price at 1/4th the amount. He's been building hot rods for decades now, and he's never used Testors, Tamaya or anything model-centric. Just the stuff they sell at the auto parts & customs stores. OM Signature]=====================================[ ] OMBlog - http://www.io.com/~o_m/omworld [ ] Let's face it: Sometimes you *need* [ ] an obnoxious opinion in your day! [ ]=====================================[ >> Then they quit making Dr. Microtools... > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > OM Yup...that woiks. Signature- Rufus I'm a late arrival to the Cementing Canopies topic, but I've had great success with Deluxe Materials Glue 'n' Glaze. The 50ml bottle should last years. Had it so long I don't remember where I bought it. Check www.deluxematerials.com Dick >>> Then they quit making Dr. Microtools... >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Yup...that woiks. at it. > Damn, I miss Old Red Tube...:-( > > scroll down this list, you might get your fix there. an old tube is going for $28.50 Craig http://www.gasolinealleyantiques.com/kits/kitbook.htm#VINTAGE%20SUPPLIES On Sep 28, 5:26�pm, "cr...@earthlink.net" <cr...@earthlink.net> wrote: > at it. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > http://www.gasolinealleyantiques.com/kits/kitbook.htm#VINTAGE%20SUPPLIES Try this http://www.craftsetc.com/store/item.aspx?ItemId=86824&dep=85&cat=40&subcat=15&Se arch=Y >Well, I followed the advice offered here and got some watch cement from >Micromark. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >is the same. So, nothing special about watch crystal cement from Micromark >compared to Testor's tube glue. you need some testor's clear parts cement. works well. but in a pinch, plain white elmer's will work. i've made very large windows with it when one dissapered into the cat. The Trumpeter C-47 has windows that fit very tightly into the fuselage. Tonight I cleaned up the paint on the inside, and then glued the windows with the watch cement. Of course, I still got some on the windows with my fat fingers, and will polish the glue smears out tomorrow. The fit of the windows into the fuselage is excellent, with no gaps at all. Next, I'm going to coat the windows inside and out with Future, which I hope will help to seal them in place, and then mask before cementing the fuselage sides together. It looks like the wing roots are going to need some major filling and sanding. > The Trumpeter C-47 has windows that fit very tightly into the fuselage. > Tonight I cleaned up the paint on the inside, and then glued the windows [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > It looks like the wing roots are going to need some major filling and > sanding. ...it's been my experience that WC cement doesn't polish very well...because it's very hard, like CA. Take care... Signature- Rufus |
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