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Hawker Hunter Intake Colour Question

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NORTHDUK@googlemail.com - 22 Nov 2008 13:27 GMT
I am about to fit the wings onto the Revell 1/72 Hunter F6 and I now
realise that I don't know what colour to paint the inside surfaces of
the air intakes.  I need to do this before I fit the wings.  Does
anyone know what colour they should be?

I've been slightly disappointed by the fit of the parts in this kit.
Has anyone else encountered problems with this or have I clumsily
misaligned the fuselage halves and caused the problem myself?

Gordon McLaughlin
Enzo Matrix - 22 Nov 2008 14:09 GMT
> I am about to fit the wings onto the Revell 1/72 Hunter F6 and I now
> realise that I don't know what colour to paint the inside surfaces of
> the air intakes.  I need to do this before I fit the wings.  Does
> anyone know what colour they should be?

They were intake colour.  ;-)

I don't know the correct name for it, but it is a very light creamy grey
(almost white) that has a sort of silvery tinge.

Also bear in mind that many Hunters were repainted later in life when the
intake interior colour became dependant on the undersurface
colour of the aircraft.  This was certainly the case with 237OCU Hunters in
1983. Those that were overall Light Aircraft Grey had LAG intakes and
splitters. Those that were camouflaged overall Dark Green/Dark Sea Grey had
DSG intakes and splitters. The lone camouflaged aircraft with LAG
undersurfaces had LAG intakes.

When I build a Hunter, I use very light grey if the aircraft has silver
undersurfaces and LAG if it has LAG undersurfaces.

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I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.

NORTHDUK@googlemail.com - 23 Nov 2008 12:43 GMT
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Enzo,

Wow, that was a quick reply!

Thanks a lot for the information.  What would those of us who model
the RAF do without your first-hand knowledge?

Despite the dificulty I have in keeping up with aircraft and vehicles,
I'm now trying to resist being bitten by the railway bug.  I was
foolish enough to think that there would be no harm in buying a few
cheap second hand books on British locomotives.  Now, I'm going back
through Airfix Magazine to look at the railway articles.  Fortunately,
I can't possibly accommodate any kind of layout but the odd static
locomotive on a small diorama base is becoming a temptation.

Thanks again for your help with the Hunter and Jaguar colours.

Gordon McLaughlin
Mad Modeller - 24 Nov 2008 02:39 GMT
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Oh, you're in for a rough time.  When that railway bug bites it never
goes entirely away.  I try to stay away from new issues of model rail
mags as I can feel the disturbance brewing deep in the psyche.  I wanna
build a layout, I wanna paint locos, I wanna paint rolling stock, I
wanna.......
No! Down, down, down!  
There, that's better.
Phew!

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
Enzo Matrix - 24 Nov 2008 20:25 GMT
>>> NORTH...@googlemail.com wrote:
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> Phew!

You're right.  I keep building Stanier coaches even though I have more than
thirty of them and I will never have a layout large enough to use them all.

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NORTHDUK@googlemail.com - 25 Nov 2008 23:36 GMT
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Bill,

I think you may be right.

For years, I carefully avoided getting interested in ships and
railways because I couldn't possibly take on any more subjects.  A few
years ago, I gave in and began buying books on ships but I've managed
to resist the temptation to make ship models although 1/1200 scale
periodically beckons.  This year, I bought a few small, cheap books on
British locomotives.  It seemed harmless; I could give them up any
time I liked. Now, I keep thinking of country stations with a foot or
two of track and a local freight train.  It would make a nice diorama.
Perhaps a Black Five would be make a good locomotive model on a small
base by itself.   I wonder if rehab is the answer.

Gordon McLaughlin
someone@some.domain - 27 Nov 2008 07:22 GMT
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the only rehab is immortality and bottomless wallet. if you find either, give
me a call.
kim - 27 Nov 2008 11:58 GMT
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> Perhaps a Black Five would be make a good locomotive model on a small
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To have any visual impact it would need to be pretty big, at least 7mm/ft.
Alternatively you could create a small diorama with perhaps a water tower in
the background?

(kim)
Enzo Matrix - 28 Nov 2008 23:56 GMT
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> Perhaps a Black Five would be make a good locomotive model on a small
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Black Fives...  might as well be Black Holes.

Stay away from the event horizon.   (Don't even consider looking at the
Caprotti builds.)

> I wonder if rehab is the answer.

Not gonna help...

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NORTHDUK@googlemail.com - 30 Nov 2008 15:43 GMT
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For some reason, I find this difficult to interpret.

At the moment, I've been sidetracked into reading about the NER and
LNER as I live in the middle of its territory.  Fortunately, the local
library has a number of Ken Hoole's books which are a good starting
point.  The early electrification and the steam railcars are
interesting.

Gordon McLaughlin
Enzo Matrix - 30 Nov 2008 17:35 GMT
> At the moment, I've been sidetracked into reading about the NER and
> LNER as I live in the middle of its territory.  Fortunately, the local
> library has a number of Ken Hoole's books which are a good starting
> point.  The early electrification and the steam railcars are
> interesting.

You're on the slippery slope!  :-D

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NORTHDUK@googlemail.com - 05 Dec 2008 21:14 GMT
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You're probably right but I don't see myself making any railway models
for a while.  I started the year determined to avoid a repetition of
last year when I finished only one model.  So far, I've started
several and finished none.  Work makes too many demands on my time and
energy.  Even so, a Sentinel railcar or even a Y1 or Y3 shunter would
make an interesting change.

What do you use to pull your Stanier coaches?

Gordon McLaughlin
Enzo Matrix - 11 Dec 2008 06:16 GMT
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> What do you use to pull your Stanier coaches?

Black Fives.  BR Standard 5s. A Patriot. A Royal Scot. A couple of Crabs. A
Flying Pig...

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someone@some.domain - 11 Dec 2008 06:24 GMT
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>Black Fives.  BR Standard 5s. A Patriot. A Royal Scot. A couple of Crabs. A
>Flying Pig...

wow, you were at our bbq?
did you have some of that broiled scot? kinda stringy and gamey but
it did walk into the cat trap and eat all the food.
Mad-Modeller - 01 Dec 2008 03:41 GMT
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> Gordon McLaughlin

"Electrification" - the magic word!  I live along the electrified line
of the old PRR between Harrisburg and Philaldelphia, Pa.  I've seen
GG-1s, P5s, E44s, E33s and E60s working through here.  I sure miss the
big Gs.

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
NORTHDUK@googlemail.com - 05 Dec 2008 21:03 GMT
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I have to be honest and admit that I don't know what any of these
locomotives are.  Nevertheless, they sound impressive.  What was a Big
G?  If you have any pictures, I'd be interested to see them and I'm
sure that I wouldn't be the only one.

The NER electrification was a local system using single electric cars
and multiple units for passengers and a couple of odd locomotives for
freight.  It was set up in the early 1900's but lasted long enough for
me to go on family holidays in its later trains in the 1950's.

Gordon McLaughlin
Mad-Modeller - 06 Dec 2008 05:26 GMT
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   Hmm, where would you like them?  I've got lots of pics that I saved
off alt.binaries.pictures.rail plus some of my own that I've scanned.
The GG1s were articulated streamlined motors that were in service from
1935 to 1981.  Their wheel arrangement was 4-6+6-4.  P5s were both
boxcabs and semi-streamlined and rode a 4-6-4 wheel arrangement.  They
pre-dated the GG1s by a couple of years.
   The E33 was originally built for the Virginian Railroad which was a
coal-hauler in Virginia and West Virginia.  The line was merged into the
Norfolk & Western who didn't need the electrics.  The E33s were sold off
to the New Haven and eventually found their way into the Penn Central,
finishing their careers in Conrail blue.  Out of the 12 built only one
survives, home again in Virginia.  They ran on C-C trucks/bogeys.
   66 E44s were built and they ran on C-C trucks/bogeys also.  Their
design was very linear and very like a diesel roadswitcher.  I have very
sharp memories of seeing a pair pulling a TrucTrain (intermodal
trailers) after a powdery snowfall with the snow blowing away from the
passing train.
   E60s were designed and built for Amtrak, our national passenger
service.  They were supposed to replace the GG1s that Amtrak had but
they had their share and more of tracking problems.  C-C trucked, they
were also dual cabbed and very like a silver brick in shape.
   At one time there was some use of the AE6 here and it was based on
the Swedish Rc-4.  Lately the electrics haven't been through here as
much.  Most passenger movement is by the new diesels.  I can't recall
their proper designation but I call them 'Blunt Bullets'. :)

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
NORTHDUK@googlemail.com - 07 Dec 2008 13:23 GMT
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Bill,

I can't get pictures on the alt.binaries groups despite a change of
ISP some time ago.  Otherwise, I should think any photo storage site,
like Photobucket, would do the trick.  I've had a look at the site
suggested by Wilshak and the machines certainly look impressive.

Gordon McLaughlin
Mad-Modeller - 08 Dec 2008 05:41 GMT
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Back in the day 2 GG1s would haul 100+ freight cars through here
regularly.  Strangely, for all the size of the things the cabin was very
cramped.  I couldn't stand upright in one and I'm 6 ft. tall.

I'll see what I can do about putting some pics up on Photobucket and let
you know when I have them there.

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
willshak - 06 Dec 2008 15:12 GMT
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http://www.steamlocomotive.com/GG1/
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someone@some.domain - 06 Dec 2008 06:23 GMT
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what's the model on those ge evo's? are they common?
history channel had a show on frieghts as part of the train series and it
showed the assembly line. they move those monsters by pushing them on an air
cushion. damn.....
Mad-Modeller - 07 Dec 2008 05:25 GMT
> what's the model on those ge evo's? are they common?

Beats me.  Maybe those are the diesels I was talking about.  How long
have they been building them?

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
 
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