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Model Forum / General / Models / December 2008what film is this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OZq-tlJTrU&feature=related is that a me 108 shooting up the mossies? may the farce be witchou. on 11/27/2008 1:26 AM someone@some.domain said the following: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OZq-tlJTrU&feature=related > > is that a me 108 shooting up the mossies? > may the farce be witchou. > It is the sound track of "Star Wars" where the good guys are attacking the Death Star, dubbed with the video from the WWII British Film "633 Squadron" attacking a German rocket fuel plant in Norway. Pretty good job of editing..  SignatureBill In Hamptonburgh, NY In the original Orange County. Est. 1683 To email, remove the double zeroes after @ >on 11/27/2008 1:26 AM someone@some.domain said the following: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OZq-tlJTrU&feature=related [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Squadron" attacking a German rocket fuel plant in Norway. Pretty good >job of editing.. Wow. Great work. And, yes, I did think he ripped off Dambusters, after watching that film. The Wiki entry for 633 Squadron includes a citation that Lucas has credited this film for inspiring that scene. someone@some.domain said the following on 27/11/2008 06:26: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OZq-tlJTrU&feature=related > > is that a me 108 shooting up the mossies? > may the farce be witchou. They get everywhere. There's two of them shooting and firing rockets at Von Ryan's Express. @2.10 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-umWzR3Z3M On Nov 27, 12:26 am, some...@some.domain wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OZq-tlJTrU&feature=related > > is that a me 108 shooting up the mossies? > may the farce be witchou. That was really funny. First good laugh I've had all day. To answer your query ... yes that does look like an Me-108. Unlike the allies after the war ... there were not many ( if any ) flyable German Luftwaffe fighter survivors. I would imagine at the time this film was made ... the closest thing they could come to for a German fighter was an Me-108. One thing that always drives me crazy about post war British films is they would use Hispano ME-109's that were equipped with Merlin engines ... instead of the original Daimler-Benz engines. But ... those were the only flyable 109 types available for those movies. Chris About thirty-five years ago, I was laying on the beach at Plum Island, near Newburyport, Mass., and heard a small plane going overhead. I opened my eyes - only to see an Me-108 in full camouflage with German crosses cruising along the beach at about a thousand feet. Later that day, heading off the island to get something to eat with the kids, we passed a small airport and, sticking out from behind a hangar, saw the tail of said plane. I immediately went into the airport and found a relatively small-scale workshop in the process of reconstructing/refurbishing/renovating four or five historic planes. I was told there that the Me-108 belonged to actor Cliff Robertson and had been rebuilt to his specs for possible use in movies, as well as for his own use. Andy > That was really funny. First good laugh I've had all day. Then you might not want to hear about Tom Cruise doing a movie about von Stauffenberg's assassin ation attempt on Hitler. It's called "Valkyrie", if I heard right. > > That was really funny. First good laugh I've had all day. > > Then you might not want to hear about Tom Cruise doing a movie about > von Stauffenberg's assassin ation attempt on Hitler. It's called > "Valkyrie", if I heard right. Yeah ... I saw a commercial for that movie yesterday. Ugh ... another Tom Cruise flick. Sad ... I used to like him as an actor. But I started thinking the man has gone insane. Maybe the movie might be good ... but ... I doubt it. Probably going to be more like U-571 nonsense. Chris >Sad ... I used to like him as an actor. But I started thinking the >man has gone insane. ...He became a Scametologist. That should have been the only necessary clue. OM Signature]=====================================[ ] OMBlog - http://www.io.com/~o_m/omworld [ ] Let's face it: Sometimes you *need* [ ] an obnoxious opinion in your day! [ ]=====================================[ One thing that always drives me crazy about post war British films is they would use Hispano ME-109's that were equipped with Merlin engines ... instead of the original Daimler-Benz engines. I really don't see how you can make that complaint. Firstly the only film that I can recall using Spanish 109s is The Battle of Britain which has got to be the best WWII air combat film in terms of flying sequences. They needed the permission of the SPanish airforce to provide the aircraft and to my knowledge they have not appeared in any other film. As the OP points out, it is the 108 that is mostly used. And the US film makers were doing better - using Harvards and Valiants for Zeros and Vals (Tora, Tora, Tora). TTT was a great film by the way, I love it, but in terms of aircraft authenticity, the use of Spanish 109s is 100s of times more accurate. I really can't understand your complaint about a film that has the most accurate portrayal of massed axis aircraft. Cheers, Nigel >One thing that always drives me crazy about post war British films is >they would use Hispano ME-109's [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > >Nigel What's weirder is that after that movie was made, another house made "Eagles Over London", in which they painted Hispanos as Spitfires and used scale model Spitfires as Messerschmitts! The Hispanos were used again in "Piece of Cake", "Memphis Belle" and other movies and TV shows. Stephen "FPilot" Bierce/IPMS #35922 http://frustratedpilot.livejournal.com : What's weirder is that after that movie was made, another house made : "Eagles Over London", in which they painted Hispanos as Spitfires and used : scale model Spitfires as Messerschmitts! That still beats "Iron Turkey", where they used F-4's as the "bad guy", and Kfir(?) as the aircraft for the good guys. Or the use of M-48's (?) in "Battleground" for the German tanks, and Chaffee's for the US tanks. Sigh. Telly Sevalis was a real disappointment in that mess. Bruce Signature------------------------------------------------------------------------ "I like bad!" Bruce Burden Austin, TX. - Thuganlitha The Power and the Prophet Robert Don Hughes > Or the use of M-48's (?) in "Battleground" for the German tanks, > and Chaffee's for the US tanks. Sigh. Telly Sevalis was a real > disappointment in that mess. I haven't seen Battleground (a much earlier film) , but I think you're thinking of "Battle of the Bulge" with M-24 Chaffees as Shermans and M-47 Patton's for the King Tigers. An entertaining film for a young teenager, but not historically accurate except in very broad detail. >> Or the use of M-48's (?) in "Battleground" for the German tanks, >> and Chaffee's for the US tanks. Sigh. Telly Sevalis was a real [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > M-47 Patton's for the King Tigers. An entertaining film for a young > teenager, but not historically accurate except in very broad detail. Actually in Battleground (the Van Johnson movie) the only tank I remember offhand was a M-18 Hellcat. SignatureAlways remember: Bull Connor was a Democrat! : I haven't seen Battleground (a much earlier film) , but I think you're : thinking of "Battle of the Bulge" with M-24 Chaffees as Shermans and : M-47 Patton's for the King Tigers. An entertaining film for a young : teenager, but not historically accurate except in very broad detail. Yes, you all are correct. "Battleground" actually isn't a bad film. "Battle of the Bulge", with Henry Fonda, on the other hand ... Bruce Signature------------------------------------------------------------------------ "I like bad!" Bruce Burden Austin, TX. - Thuganlitha The Power and the Prophet Robert Don Hughes >> Or the use of M-48's (?) in "Battleground" for the German tanks, >> and Chaffee's for the US tanks. Sigh. Telly Sevalis was a real [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > M-47 Patton's for the King Tigers. An entertaining film for a young > teenager, but not historically accurate except in very broad detail. I'm not a tank guy but I believe those Tigers were M41 Walker Bulldogs. ISTR that the West German Bundesheer was supplied many of those and probably hired out for the movie. Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. >>> Or the use of M-48's (?) in "Battleground" for the German tanks, >>> and Chaffee's for the US tanks. Sigh. Telly Sevalis was a real [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. Various web sites seem to agree that the tank battles were filmed in Spain using Spanish army M47 and M24 tanks - the "American" Chaffees are even painted in Spanish army camouflage. > >>> Or the use of M-48's (?) in "Battleground" for the German tanks, > >>> and Chaffee's for the US tanks. Sigh. Telly Sevalis was a real [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Spain using Spanish army M47 and M24 tanks - the "American" Chaffees are > even painted in Spanish army camouflage. Obviously I must watch it again. If not this movie, I wonder which one I'm remembering? Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. On Nov 29, 2:32 pm, "Nigel Heather" <nigel@<NO_SPAM>the- heathers.co.uk> wrote: > One thing that always drives me crazy about post war British films is > they would use Hispano ME-109's [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Nigel Okay ... maybe I went a little overboard. I just think Espanio Me-109's are UGLY. Comparing Tora Tora Tora and Battle of Britain ... is like comparing apples to apples. Both movies were made about the same time ... and both had to scrounge up aircraft to simulate real aircraft in the battles recreated. But hey ... Tora Tora Tora has a Tomato rating of 71 %. http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/battle_of_britain/ Battle of Britains Tomato rating is 63 %. So there ... Ha ! =] Hey ... check this out ... a reconditioned BF-109. Nice to hear that Daimler Benz engine ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzgYkfq9OVw&feature=related Chris I don't care which aircraft were used in these various films.... All I know is that I still get pissed off when I see those three "Japanese" SBD's bombing Pearl Harbor - probably the most overused and abused film clip in Hollywood history! Andy >All I know is that I still get pissed off when I see those three >"Japanese" SBD's bombing Pearl Harbor - probably the most overused and >abused film clip in Hollywood history! ...What films besides "Tora"^3 and "The Final Countdown" was that clip used in? OM Signature]=====================================[ ] OMBlog - http://www.io.com/~o_m/omworld [ ] Let's face it: Sometimes you *need* [ ] an obnoxious opinion in your day! [ ]=====================================[ > On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 05:06:00 -0800 (PST), Andy > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > ] an obnoxious opinion in your day! [ > ]=====================================[ If I remember correctly, the first time I saw that clip misused was in the original Victory at Sea, when it first played on television - sometime during the Fifties. Andy >> On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 05:06:00 -0800 (PST), Andy >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Andy Many documentaries on the Pacific War use that footage from John Ford's "Pearl Harbor". I think it was also in "Winds of War", "War & Remembrance", and just about any video that was made about the Commerative (ex-Confederate) Air Force's "Tora Tora Tora" airshow act. I know because I have about eight of those videos and it's in all of them. (They also include footage of a KC-97 tanker getting dismembered in a scrap yard, to explain why they started the organization and their search for historic aircraft to restore and fly.) Stephen "FPilot" Bierce/IPMS #35922 http://frustratedpilot.livejournal.com >> On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 05:06:00 -0800 (PST), Andy >> [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > >Andy i believe victory at sea was all real footage. i think that was a highlight? or maybe i'm senile.... > In article > <e2c706b2-6168-49ec-a566-a097826e4532@d14g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, Andy [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > i believe victory at sea was all real footage. i think that was a > highlight? or maybe i'm senile.... Wasn't the first appearance of the turncoat SBDs in the Why We Fight series? I have them, might need to recheck them. I rewatched VaS recently. Most of it is "real" in that it is wartime footage. I'm not convinced that all of it is actually correct for the time periods or locations being discussed at the time. There were some studio models that looked like retreads from John Wayne's Flying Tigers in it, or it could have just been how the models were done at the time, but clearly those scenes were outtakes from some studios mockups from the 40's. SignatureAlways remember: Bull Connor was a Democrat! On Dec 6, 3:09 am, grey_ghost471-newsgro...@yahoo.com (Gray Ghost) wrote: > some...@some.domain wrote innews:45p_k.11052$CV5.1421@fe11.news.easynews.com: > [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > just been how the models were done at the time, but clearly those scenes were > outtakes from some studios mockups from the 40's. Hummph, woouldn't be the first time. Sometimes they really get rediculous though. Last night I was watching a UFO show from Discovery Channel from earlier in the week (thank God for DVR) called "The UFO Before Roswell" about a B-25 that went down in Washington State on 1 August '47. They showed stock footage of a B-25 Mitchell in flight, CGI of the crash and for some reason photos of a Tupolov "Bear" for the take-off sequences...... > On Dec 6, 3:09 am, grey_ghost471-newsgro...@yahoo.com (Gray Ghost) > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > CGI of the crash and for some reason photos of a Tupolov "Bear" for > the take-off sequences...... A while back I posted about a PBS program about wartime aviation and the Ploesti raids were being talked about while I'm watching Il-2s attacking something. (Tongue firmly in cheek) I had no idea we flew those against Ploesti (resume serious pose). Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. > > On Dec 6, 3:09 am, grey_ghost471-newsgro...@yahoo.com (Gray Ghost) > > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > > Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. could be worse. channel 7 out of Chicago tonight was talking about Pearl Harbor Day, had shots of the Arizona Memorial and some of the ceremony, their local voice over by local newies talked about how the speeches were more about how things have improved since the war and noted the B-52 strikes on Tokyo. Newsies. Sheesh..... >> > On Dec 6, 3:09 am, grey_ghost471-newsgro...@yahoo.com (Gray Ghost) >> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] > > Newsies. Sheesh..... There really should be a literacy test. > their local voice over by local newies talked about how the >speeches were more about how things have improved since the war and >noted the B-52 strikes on Tokyo. ...And then there's the ones who've referred to Apollo 11 as "Apollo 2". OM Signature]=====================================[ ] OMBlog - http://www.io.com/~o_m/omworld [ ] Let's face it: Sometimes you *need* [ ] an obnoxious opinion in your day! [ ]=====================================[ |
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