Two days ago, mi novia was watching a segment of the "Oprah Show" where
an individual who claimed
to be a "model airplane builder" supposedly lost part of his middle
finger after contacting an infection caused by handling some hazardous
substance.
She asked me if I had any idea what he might
have using, and if any glues I use {Testor's
Liquid, CYA) would cuase that I told her that I always practiced safe
handling procedures and
never used any of the more exotic compounds.
Does anyone know what type of substance could cause ulceration and
subsequent loss of flesh like
this. Sorry I don't have more information.
Rufus - 26 Mar 2009 15:12 GMT
> Two days ago, mi novia was watching a segment of the "Oprah Show" where
> an individual who claimed
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> subsequent loss of flesh like
> this. Sorry I don't have more information.
Anything with touluene in it might likely have been the cause, but one
would also have to have or have developed a reaction to toluene (or any
of the other chemicals they use) for something that catastrophic to
occur. I myself used to wash raw aluminum parts in straight toluene up
to my elbows and have never had any issues - it mostly depends on your
skin type in combination with the chemical. Getting any chemical in an
already open wound or cut might also have been a factor - really don't
have enough information here...
OTOH - some people that make their own photo etch may have nitric
acid...er...on hand...I used to have some chemically pure nitric acid
around back when I was etching jewelry. If you don't know what you're
doing with something like that, yeah - you can hurt yourself.

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Dave Ambrose - 28 Mar 2009 17:30 GMT
>> Two days ago, mi novia was watching a segment of the "Oprah Show" where
>> an individual who claimed
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> already open wound or cut might also have been a factor - really don't
> have enough information here...
I know people who've developed allergies to toluene. I don't think you
can blame this one on modeling though. This sounds more like a nasty
infection.
I once contracted an antibiotic resistant infection from spider bites so
the requisite bacteria are out in the wild. Some of them will happily
eat the flesh right off our bones.
Somehow, I don't see Oprah correctly connecting cause with effect on a
routine basis.
Cheers,
Dave Ambrose
Who, after almost 20 years, is resuming work on the #4 Kodak Chevy. :-)
Richard Brooks - 28 Mar 2009 18:24 GMT
Dave Ambrose said the following on 28/03/2009 16:30:
> I once contracted an antibiotic resistant infection from spider bites so
> the requisite bacteria are out in the wild. Some of them will happily
> eat the flesh right off our bones.
Last year we had a report of some guy in the UK dropping dead from a
soil-borne virus whilst doing some gardening!
> Somehow, I don't see Oprah correctly connecting cause with effect on a
> routine basis.
<Kent Brockman>"Like I said! STAY INDOORS,PEOPLE!"
ctpmdavis@comcast.net - 30 Mar 2009 15:56 GMT
On Mar 28, 11:24 am, Richard Brooks <richardbro...@vickers-
armstrongs.com> wrote:
> Dave Ambrose said the following on 28/03/2009 16:30:
>
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>
> <Kent Brockman>"Like I said! STAY INDOORS,PEOPLE!"
After 50 plus years of modeling everything from stick and paper, solid
model balsa and bass wood kits, plastic and many resin kits I have
probably ingested (by mouth or inhaling) enough glue, paint ,thinner,
fumes and other assorted model stuff to build,sand and paint a hundred
models....and I'm still here. It's funny that when we were ignorant
of these things we didn't get sick from any of them. Some may think
this is a stupid approach or viewpoint but that's their opinion, which
they're welcome to.
I say. "model on"
Ol' 45
Don Stauffer - 26 Mar 2009 15:40 GMT
> Two days ago, mi novia was watching a segment of the "Oprah Show" where
> an individual who claimed
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> subsequent loss of flesh like
> this. Sorry I don't have more information.
I have heard of many more problems with flying models, including the
somewhat dangerous fuels some modelers use.
Note that the infection normally indicates an organic material- a bug-
is involved, that is seperate from the trauma that can allow entry into
the body. A knife cut can definitely get infected. I have had this
happen several times. Any substance that opens a wound can lead to an
infection, so many materials can do this. If (especially in dry winter
weather) you peel off a bit of CA from the skin, and open a wound, even
a small one, it COULD get infected if one is not careful how the wound
is later exposed to bugs. This is not really the fault of the CA,
though. So while any trauma can lead to an infection, normal care in
washing, using band-aids on cuts, etc. should prevent normal infections.
I certainly do not let knowledge of rare cases inhibit my enjoyment of
modeling.
BTW, I have also heard of allergies to many of the substances we use in
modeling.
z - 01 Apr 2009 07:29 GMT
> > Two days ago, mi novia was watching a segment of the "Oprah Show" where
> > an individual who claimed
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>
> - Show quoted text -
ironically, cya glue is pretty sterile; a purer grade is used for
surgical glues, etc., Its potency is the exact reason that it's
sterile; it's so reactive that any bacteria that may land in the
liquid will be completely glued up in no time flat, much as you would
if you happened to land in a swimming pool full.
Val Kraut - 27 Mar 2009 01:08 GMT
There's many dangers people don't realize - Just using normal paints in an
airbrush at too high a pressure - you can inject the paint to under the skin
and do some really bad damage.
Venerabile Frakkia - 30 Mar 2009 20:04 GMT
> Does anyone know what type of substance could cause ulceration and
> subsequent loss of flesh like
> this. Sorry I don't have more information.
a dremel drill is enough :-| I accidentally hit the mandrel and sanded my
middle finger on saturday...it took off some skin, not a big injury but
really painful!!! =:-| Another good reason to use gloves.... :o)
Frankie
z - 01 Apr 2009 07:26 GMT
> Two days ago, mi novia was watching a segment of the "Oprah Show" where
> an individual who claimed
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> subsequent loss of flesh like
> this. Sorry I don't have more information.
first thing that comes to mind is a severe "allergy" to an xacto knife
or even a cutter on a dremel, that could cause loss of a finger tip
pretty quick.
otherwise, maybe being "allergic" to cya glue which happens to have
securely fastened your fingertip to the tabletop.
other than that, i don't see anything in the usual materials that
could cause the symptoms described, but i am neither a doctor nor a
rich and famous tv talk show hostess.