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Andy - 02 Jul 2009 03:11 GMT
I watched "Strategic Air Command" on one of the movie channels last
night (for about the fifteenth time) and enjoyed just about every
minute of it.

The aerial photography was superb - again.
someone@some.domain - 02 Jul 2009 03:14 GMT
>I watched "Strategic Air Command" on one of the movie channels last
>night (for about the fifteenth time) and enjoyed just about every
>minute of it.
>
>The aerial photography was superb - again.

tcm, i believe. i had the hots for june allyson when i was a lad.
i don't know if it was the f.ck-me voice or the very nice bod. i rewatch that
about once a year, mostly to remind me of when many people were polite.
eyeball - 02 Jul 2009 04:13 GMT
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> In article <f110c060-ca57-441a-b193-bca6a426e...@j32g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, Andy <Andyroo...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:>I watched "Strategic Air Command" on one of the movie channels last
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> i don't know if it was the f.ck-me voice or the very nice bod. i rewatch that
> about once a year, mostly to remind me of when many people were polite.

people used to be polite?!
WmB - 02 Jul 2009 04:55 GMT
On Jul 1, 10:14 pm, some...@some.domain wrote:
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>people used to be polite?!

I'm still polite. Practically everyday I bite my lip and refrain from
calling down some mullet head without the brains of a goldfish.

You know the types. Like the first guy in line in the right lane who
realizes just when the light turns green that he really needs to be in the
left turning lane, which just so happens to be redlighted and stacked up all
the way back to where you are. So the dimwit brakes up, hits his blinker and
decides we're all going to wait along with him as our light goes
red-green-red-green-red.

Or the putz's that ambushes you with a survey or sample tray; even though as
they approach, you've dropped your gaze, dropped your shoulders and have
picked up speed worthy of an open field running back about to break one
open.

Or the guy... sorry, I'll try to be polite.

WmB
someone@some.domain - 02 Jul 2009 05:21 GMT
>On Jul 1, 10:14 pm, some...@some.domain wrote:
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>WmB

yeah, we know all of those and more, as you do.
i used to think it was rude to just ignore people accosting me for whatever
reason. panhandlers, etc. but one day i was assaulted by a brain dead
hubbardite who was determined to get either money or my time. he was so
obnoxious and determined to get something from me i had to accomodate him..
bad day to pick.
i was in a bad mood. after the third time of trying to get passed him in the
bus aisle, and hearing his want to see a movie etc spiel, i had had quite
enough.
i decided to give him the whole dianetics is actual john campell's rational
living philosophy that l mo-ron had simply stolen, forged new serial numbers
on and called his own on. very crowded bus, so i had to stand in his face and
use my even-a-power-amplifier-won't-stop-me voice. the bus quieted down and
people listened. the hubbardite tryed to shrink to a dot and got redder and
redder as i quoted heinlein's comments.
for some reason, he got off at the very next spot. the audience gave me a few
attaboys and laughs.
i will hold doors, give seats to those in need, and try to be polite. but....
mr wmb, i suspect you do just fine.
eyeball - 02 Jul 2009 14:34 GMT
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> i will hold doors, give seats to those in need, and try to be polite. but....
> mr wmb, i suspect you do just fine.

I find it getting harder and harder to be polite to people for whom
ESL. Like my new "party until morning" neighbors...
someone@some.domain - 02 Jul 2009 16:02 GMT
>On Jul 2, 12:21=A0am, some...@some.domain wrote:
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>I find it getting harder and harder to be polite to people for whom
>ESL. Like my new "party until morning" neighbors...

yeah, my esl retards with two of those stupid english terriers teid to the
back stairs. they like to bark. a lot. one neighbor got so fed up he calld the
cops. 9 times, so far. the dog owners are really quick on the uptake....
the dogs face my house, 12 feet away.
Dave Ambrose - 02 Jul 2009 17:23 GMT
> I find it getting harder and harder to be polite to people for whom
> ESL. Like my new "party until morning" neighbors...

It's not like that everywhere. I'm in Poway, near San Diego. Our
neighborhood's got people speaking heavily accented English. They work
hard, make honest money, and live modestly.

When my neighbor turned 19, her brother came over, told us about the
party, and said if it got too noisy, to let them know. I told 'em to go
for it and have a great time. Didn't hear a thing.

Politeness is good, but respect gets you a lot farther. Not everyone is
going to have the same values or customs. But, that's the great thing
about the US. We get to choose.

Cheers,
Dave Ambrose
eyeball - 02 Jul 2009 18:06 GMT
> > I find it getting harder and harder to be polite to people for whom
> > ESL. Like my new "party until morning" neighbors...
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> Cheers,
> Dave Ambrose

Oh, I'm sure some of my neighbors work. Since it's a corner house, 2
bedrooms...and we now have a dozen work trucks parked, running up the
streets, down our street, around the corner, down that one...along
with the 4 junk cars in their driveway, and a back yard that now
consists of weeds and a 6 foot deep stack of ladders.
We are hoping the economy improves enough to be safe to move soon.
When they throw parties, if anyone asks them to quiet down a bit, they
stare and laugh.
When will they "respect" my desire to sleep at 3 am?
Gray Ghost - 02 Jul 2009 18:35 GMT
Dave Ambrose <stargazer1@cox.net> wrote in news:H953m.1013$3o6.26
@newsfe24.iad:

>> I find it getting harder and harder to be polite to people for whom
>> ESL. Like my new "party until morning" neighbors...
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> Cheers,
> Dave Ambrose

Ann and I got married in the backyard of the house we lived in at the time.
We went around to every house on the block and talked to or left notes if we
couldn't get to them directly. We let them know what was going to happen,
when, invited them all to the reception and asked them about parking and told
them if they had any issues to come see us immediately.

Most of them were very surprised. All of them wished us luck and were
cooperative.

Frank
WmB - 02 Jul 2009 20:34 GMT
> Dave Ambrose <stargazer1@cox.net> wrote in news:H953m.1013$3o6.26
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> Frank

It's always nice to be asked. A former neighbor used to have parties
occasionally and he would direct his guests to park in the field between his
house and ours. Our field, our property. Never once asked once if it was OK
to do so. His problems went deeper than that. The guy was an all around
prick in general. He let everyone around him know that his general feeling
was that he was building an oasis among folks that didn't care to invest 6
hours per day into their landscaping projects. Excuse the hell out of me for
working 12 hour days at the office popping Prilosec like hard candy. I mow
my lawn, trim my shrubs and dump the refuse where I'm supposed to - mission
accomplished.

He quickly became known around town as the Lawnmower Man. Didn't feel too
sorry for him when his 32 year old wife dumped his 52 year old a.s for a guy
with a bigger house, fatter wallet and more recent date of birth.

The guy that moved in after him is old school polite and respectful - and
oddly enough, ten years younger than me. Always asking if it's OK to park
his work truck in the lot or if he can dump his tree clippings along the
curb in front of the lot, and just before a party last year, would it be OK
to let his guests park in the lot.

Yes, sir - asking makes all the difference in the world.

WmB
someone@some.domain - 02 Jul 2009 18:57 GMT
>> I find it getting harder and harder to be polite to people for whom
>> ESL. Like my new "party until morning" neighbors...
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>Cheers,
>Dave Ambrose

sure, my other esl neighbors are great. no stupid goddam dogs.
eyeball - 02 Jul 2009 20:03 GMT
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> sure, my other esl neighbors are great. no stupid goddam dogs.

some of my other neighbors would be more likely to eat dogs then keep
them as pets...
someone@some.domain - 03 Jul 2009 01:37 GMT
>On Jul 2, 1:57=A0pm, some...@some.domain wrote:
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>some of my other neighbors would be more likely to eat dogs then keep
>them as pets...

yes, we have had some like that.
Gernot Hassenpflug - 03 Jul 2009 01:20 GMT
> On Jul 2, 12:21 am, some...@some.domain wrote:
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> I find it getting harder and harder to be polite to people for whom
> ESL. Like my new "party until morning" neighbors...

Heh, it wasn't you in the news there the other day was it? 72-yr old
ex-boxer gives young neighbour a good beating after latter attacks
oldtimer with kitchen knife on suspecting that the latter had called the
cops owing to the "all night party" going on the previous night.... was
in the Sun or something this week, pics and all. Very satisfying to see!
The Old Man - 02 Jul 2009 20:03 GMT
On Jul 2, 12:21 am, some...@some.domain wrote:
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Hubbardite?? Wazzzat?
There was a writer (pamphleteer, actually) named Elbert Hubbard who's
attitude was "If a man isn't willing to give an honest day's work for
an honest day's pay, he should be given the taste of a thick-soled
number nine."
Whattta guy!
He died on the Lusitania while going to England to try and broker a
peace deal during the Great War.
willshak - 02 Jul 2009 21:51 GMT
on 7/2/2009 3:03 PM (ET) The Old Man wrote the following:
> On Jul 2, 12:21 am, some...@some.domain wrote:
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> peace deal during the Great War.
>  

L. Ron Hubbard, a science fiction writer, and the founder of the Church
of Scientology, which some of Hollywood celebrities.espouse, like Tom
Cruise.
John Travolta, Paris Hilton, and others.

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The Old Man - 03 Jul 2009 00:47 GMT
> on 7/2/2009 3:03 PM (ET) The Old Man wrote the following:
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Thanks for reminding me. I read ~one~ of Hubbard's stories, called
"The Lieutenant". It was barely readable. His much-touted "Battlefield
Earth" was rediculous. Too bad he started believing his pulp.....
someone@some.domain - 03 Jul 2009 01:41 GMT
>> on 7/2/2009 3:03 PM (ET) The Old Man wrote the following:
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>"The Lieutenant". It was barely readable. His much-touted "Battlefield
>Earth" was rediculous. Too bad he started believing his pulp.....
look up hack writers in your dictionary and there's mo ron.
campbell published him out of pity. he had a story in the same issue of the
magazine that heinlein did.  heinlein not pleased....
Gray Ghost - 03 Jul 2009 04:09 GMT
>> on 7/2/2009 3:03 PM (ET) The Old Man wrote the following:
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> "The Lieutenant". It was barely readable. His much-touted "Battlefield
> Earth" was rediculous. Too bad he started believing his pulp.....

I actually like Battlefield Earth. Yeah it's hokey in spots, but really most
SciFi is anyway. Look at 50s era scifi movies some of them are barely
watchable unless you really dial back your cred meter. And look at the dreck
the SciFi channel produces, other than the series the SGs which I like, BSG,
etc. The movies for the most part are horrible, ridiculous stories,
improbable science, laughable dialog and character development. Travolta
makes me laugh in BFE, he's so cartoonish evil to me, the arrogant overlord
that can't see the ability of those he oppresses because of his bigoted
views. And the "corporate" society gone mad. It's not a great movie but it so
much better than so much that is out there.

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someone@some.domain - 03 Jul 2009 05:50 GMT
>>> on 7/2/2009 3:03 PM (ET) The Old Man wrote the following:
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>views. And the "corporate" society gone mad. It's not a great movie but it so
>much better than so much that is out there.

is that the 50 volume thing? whichever was the many volumes set, a friend of
mine was absolutly addicted to them. she is otherwise quite sane.
Gray Ghost - 03 Jul 2009 07:49 GMT
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> In article <Xns9C3CEB8E2CA63Wereofftoseethewizrd@216.196.97.142>,
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> is that the 50 volume thing? whichever was the many volumes set, a friend
> of mine was absolutly addicted to them. she is otherwise quite sane.

I'm just talking about the movie.

I may actually have some L Ron on the scifi book rack, hafta check. I think I
read something before I knew who he was. Don't remember much, I reckon it
didn't leave much of an impression.

Not like Starship Troopers. Love the book but what a suck a.s movie they made
of it. It's the damn suits that's what the MI was all about, not dropping 'em
onto some rock with a jazzed up M-16! I was sorely pissed that they didn't fo
the Mobile Suits.

Of course I'm also the guy that read all the Aliens books. Hey it's a creepy
story, though the biology and purpose of the damn critters is never
explained. They just are.

Long Live the Colonial Marines!

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Alan Dicey - 03 Jul 2009 11:06 GMT
> Not like Starship Troopers. Love the book but what a suck a.s movie they made
> of it. It's the damn suits that's what the MI was all about, not dropping 'em
> onto some rock with a jazzed up M-16! I was sorely pissed that they didn't fo
> the Mobile Suits.

You and every other Heinlein fan.  Verhoeven used the title to make a
movie that leaves out Heinlein's main what-if argument (could there be
something better than a warm-body democracy) and turns the rest upside
down (The MI are a bunch of cowboys).  His only purpose can have been to
pour scorn on Heinlein's most emotive work.

http://www.kentaurus.com/troopers.htm
(go 2/3 of the way down for the movie section)

> Of course I'm also the guy that read all the Aliens books. Hey it's a creepy
> story, though the biology and purpose of the damn critters is never
> explained. They just are.

Alien is a haunted-house movie.  The monster just has to be scary, you
aren't supposed to worry about how it works :-)
someone@some.domain - 03 Jul 2009 16:03 GMT
>> Not like Starship Troopers. Love the book but what a suck a.s movie they made
>
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>Alien is a haunted-house movie.  The monster just has to be scary, you
>aren't supposed to worry about how it works :-)

anything that feeds on your body and pops out through your rib cage has mucho
scary.
Gray Ghost - 03 Jul 2009 19:03 GMT
>> Not like Starship Troopers. Love the book but what a suck a.s movie they
>> made of it. It's the damn suits that's what the MI was all about, not
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> Alien is a haunted-house movie.  The monster just has to be scary, you
> aren't supposed to worry about how it works :-)

I've heard a reviewer say that. Alien is a haunted house movie in space.
Sliens is a war movie in space.

Of course I have a large number of the models 2 ea of the APC and Dropship
and the trading toys collection. I really wonder how deranged I am sometimes.

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someone@some.domain - 03 Jul 2009 16:01 GMT
>> X-No-Archive: yes
>> In article <Xns9C3CEB8E2CA63Wereofftoseethewizrd@216.196.97.142>,
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>Long Live the Colonial Marines!

yeah, st was lousy heinlein. the suits are the book. what's a cap trooper
without his backpack nuclear bomb launcher?
but it was ok hollywood. just think of it as a saturday main feature at the
local sticky floor.
never got into aliens. they remind me of my ex's and who nedds 'em?
William Banaszak - 06 Jul 2009 05:27 GMT
> yeah, st was lousy heinlein. the suits are the book. what's a cap trooper
> without his backpack nuclear bomb launcher?
> but it was ok hollywood. just think of it as a saturday main feature at the
> local sticky floor.
> never got into aliens. they remind me of my ex's and who nedds 'em?

I'm sure that the main reason for that ST fiasco was that Heinlein had
sworn off Hollywood after that one movie they made in 1950.  I remember
reading that he wasn't happy with the experience.
Thus the suits waited 'til after he was gone to do another one of his books.

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
someone@some.domain - 06 Jul 2009 06:13 GMT
>> yeah, st was lousy heinlein. the suits are the book. what's a cap trooper
>> without his backpack nuclear bomb launcher?
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>Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.

that's actually a myth. he did more work for several years after and a bit in
the 60's. check out grumbles from the grave and virginia's published email
where she talks about it.
he was pissed about destination moon, but that was at george pal.
the starship movies came out after he was dead, i do believe. i could be
wrong, but i think it was after.
i still miss a new heinlein every year, even with the 70's hiatus.
The Old Man - 04 Jul 2009 01:33 GMT
On Jul 3, 2:49 am, grey_ghost471-newsgro...@yahoo.com (Gray Ghost)
wrote:
> some...@some.domain wrote innews:O6g3m.267222$fo6.74621@en-nntp-09.dc1.easynews.com:
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If'n you liked the movie series, try getting ahold of the director's
cut. I got the DC for Aliens (#2) and then the whole story made sense.
It's also about 45 minutes longer then the theater version.
Gray Ghost - 04 Jul 2009 03:01 GMT
> On Jul 3, 2:49 am, grey_ghost471-newsgro...@yahoo.com (Gray Ghost)
> wrote:
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> cut. I got the DC for Aliens (#2) and then the whole story made sense.
> It's also about 45 minutes longer then the theater version.

I have the DC collectors set. Indeed, it helps, but reading the books really
helps.

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Bruce Burden - 04 Jul 2009 04:24 GMT
: I actually like Battlefield Earth. Yeah it's hokey in spots, but really most
: SciFi is anyway.

    I only read the book. My paperback from the 80's has "SOON TO BE
   A MAJOR MOTION PICTURE!!!!!" on the back cover. Okay, if "soon" means
   15 - 20 years...

    As for the movie - never bothered. Could not see boiling down a
   1500 page book to 90 minutes. Plus the clips with Harriers was just
   too cock-a-mamie to contemplate. When does the story of Johnny Good
   boy(?) take place - some hundreds of years after the invasion, at
   any rate. Fuel would no longer be, rubber seals would be a long lost
   memory, etc. And, finally, John as Terel? Nope. Worse, I tought he
   was playing Johnny Goodboy. No. HELL NO.

:                                                        And look at the dreck
: the SciFi channel produces,

    What? What was wrong with Alien... uh, something, with Bruce
    Campbell and Renee O'Connor? Apoclypse? Besides, look at all of
    the work "the Lou" has been getting with the SyFy-less (pronounced
    'syphilus') network...

: views. And the "corporate" society gone mad. It's not a great movie but it so
: much better than so much that is out there.

    Well, only in that Will Farrell has only written one movie,
    but has re-shot it many times. Plus the "if only I had a brain"
    rehashes of Ducks of Hazzard, I Spy, Starsky & Hutch. Blech.
    And I grew up watching that stuff. Which does NOT mean I want to
    watch it now.

                            Bruce
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Gray Ghost - 04 Jul 2009 04:53 GMT
>: I actually like Battlefield Earth. Yeah it's hokey in spots, but really
>: most SciFi is anyway.
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>     memory, etc. And, finally, John as Terel? Nope. Worse, I tought he
>     was playing Johnny Goodboy. No. HELL NO.

Yeah, I didn't know the time lapse, clearly long enough. Indeed the Harriers
would hardly be flyable after all that time. it is one of the more irritating
aspects.

>:                                                        And look at the
>:                              dreck
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>      the work "the Lou" has been getting with the SyFy-less (pronounced
>      'syphilus') network...

Love Bruce. However I fear greatly, the name change bodes ill.

>: views. And the "corporate" society gone mad. It's not a great movie but
>: it so much better than so much that is out there.
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>      And I grew up watching that stuff. Which does NOT mean I want to
>      watch it now.

I know, my theory is that they ran out of ideas in 1984. For all the
potential possible in todays movies they are as an entire industry lame
beyond words. The writers are very bad, the actors for the most part
lamentable. They have exchanged FX and hard bodies for any glimmer of talent.

>                                    Bruce
someone@some.domain - 04 Jul 2009 19:19 GMT
>: I actually like Battlefield Earth. Yeah it's hokey in spots, but really most
>: SciFi is anyway.

strongly disagree. very little is. good sf certainly isn't.

>        I only read the book. My paperback from the 80's has "SOON TO BE
>    A MAJOR MOTION PICTURE!!!!!" on the back cover. Okay, if "soon" means
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>                                                        Bruce

love that campbell movie with the bug invaders. high camp and funny.
Gray Ghost - 04 Jul 2009 21:16 GMT
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> love that campbell movie with the bug invaders. high camp and funny.

Name 20 scifi movies from the last 20 years that were good. TV or theater.
Drooling reviewers opinions don't count.

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WmB - 04 Jul 2009 21:25 GMT
> Name 20 scifi movies from the last 20 years that were good. TV or theater.
> Drooling reviewers opinions don't count.

20 - hell I can't name 1.

WmB
someone@some.domain - 03 Jul 2009 01:39 GMT
>on 7/2/2009 3:03 PM (ET) The Old Man wrote the following:
>> On Jul 2, 12:21 am, some...@some.domain wrote:
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>Cruise.
>John Travolta, Paris Hilton, and others.

none of whom get my respect.
someone@some.domain - 03 Jul 2009 01:38 GMT
>On Jul 2, 12:21=A0am, some...@some.domain wrote:
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>He died on the Lusitania while going to England to try and broker a
>peace deal during the Great War.

cool, i did not know that. love them factoids.
jj - 02 Jul 2009 21:14 GMT

>>> <Andyroo...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:>
>>> I watched "Strategic Air Command" on one  of the movie channels last
>>> >night (for about the fifteenth time) and enjoyed just about every
>>> >minute of it.
>>> >The aerial photography was superb - again.

Thanks for the reminder, I'm adding this to my dvd list.

>>>people used to be polite?!

Ah, count me in as a believer in the rudeness as a sign of societal
decline.  A civilization is by definition civil.  (sorry for the
trivial turn of phrase. :-)

>i decided to give him the whole dianetics is actual john campell's rational
>living philosophy that l mo-ron had simply stolen, forged new serial numbers
>on and called his own on. very crowded bus, so i had to stand in his face and
>use my even-a-power-amplifier-won't-stop-me voice. the bus quieted down and
>people listened. the hubbardite tryed to shrink to a dot and got redder and
>redder as i quoted heinlein's comments.

LOL, I uncorked on some Jehovah's Witlessness a while back.   They
weren't rude but I was just so annoyed at their "come on" that if I
joined, all sorts of wonderful things would just come my way.  Years
ago there was a hilarious thread on Alt.pranks (or something like
that) about things to do to Jehovah's that come a knocking.
Gernot Hassenpflug - 03 Jul 2009 01:25 GMT
>  
>>>> <Andyroo...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:>
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> ago there was a hilarious thread on Alt.pranks (or something like
> that) about things to do to Jehovah's that come a knocking.

My best friend, an Israeli, was often accosted on Saturday mornings
around 8 AM in Kyoto by JW's (usually 2 Japanese females) knocking on the
door and asking to.... (no, not that!). So after ignoring time after
time, eventually one day he opened up the door and when they began their
spiel, he told them, "Look, I'm Jewish". Their memorable reply: "That's
OK, anyone can join." LOL
someone@some.domain - 03 Jul 2009 01:44 GMT
>>>> <Andyroo...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:>
>>>> I watched "Strategic Air Command" on one  of the movie channels last
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>ago there was a hilarious thread on Alt.pranks (or something like
>that) about things to do to Jehovah's that come a knocking.

answering door naked guarantys no returns.
WmB - 03 Jul 2009 03:33 GMT
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> answering door naked guarantys no returns.

Or the next best thing...

A few decades ago, I was at the beach one summer with my gal, my brother and
his wife. It was afternoon and we had just gotten back to the cottage after
a day at the beach. Me and the bro just had trunks on, his wife was in her
bikini and my gal was in the shower. When the knock came at the door my
sister-in-law answered the door. She was a department store manager at the
time and kind of prided herself on handling people and managing trouble,
especially with the clueless.

Two JWs started giving her their spiel, while she's trying to give them a
polite brush off. After a few minutes go by she's still trying to sweep them
off the deck and her voice is getting a little louder each time.  Finally my
brother gets up and goes over to the door. He doesn't say anything, just
stands there for a minute sizing them up. They keep on yammering and I'm
kind of getting a little rattled 'cause I'm thinking just shut the friggin'
door in their face. That's when it hit me.

I got up and went over to the door and stood on the other side of my
sister-in-law and put my arm around her. My brother picked up on it and he
did the same. We just bunched up and got all cozy looking with these big
sh.t eating grins on our faces. The JWs are just jaw dropped. One of us
asked them if they'd like to come in and join us and...

... POOF!

They were gone faster than a campaign promise in December. I can still see
the look on their faces.
We laughed about that for years.

WmB
someone@some.domain - 03 Jul 2009 04:10 GMT
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>WmB

good one.
Alan Dicey - 03 Jul 2009 11:14 GMT
> They were gone faster than a campaign promise in December. I can still see
> the look on their faces.
> We laughed about that for years.

An alternative, told by a somewhat bookish friend:

Express interest, but say you're busy, can they come back some evening
next week?

Arrange for the Mormon and Hare Krishna evangelists to come at the same
time.

Sit back and take notes.

OR

Wait till they start quoting the Bible at you, then tell them they're
wrong.  Prove it by bringing down your own Bible and reading the
accurate quote to them.

In Greek
eyeball - 03 Jul 2009 15:20 GMT
On Jul 3, 6:14 am, Alan Dicey <a...@diceyhome.free-online.co.uk>
wrote:

> > They were gone faster than a campaign promise in December. I can still see
> > the look on their faces.
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> In Greek

What's funny is my one run in with JWs was fast and easy. I opened the
door to two women. They gave me a quick pitch about a meeting, handed
me a paper and left. They gave me the evil-eye but were otherwise
polite. I was in an old beat up t shirt and hadn't shaved, so maybe
the "homeless bum with no money" look has merit.
Gray Ghost - 03 Jul 2009 04:12 GMT
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> In article <4a500ff3.42851062@news.flex.com>,
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> answering door naked guarantys no returns.

Depends how yer fixed. 8)

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someone@some.domain - 03 Jul 2009 05:52 GMT
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>Depends how yer fixed. 8)

pull a john waters and tie a rubber chicken to mr happy.
Gernot Hassenpflug - 03 Jul 2009 05:15 GMT
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> answering door naked guarantys no returns.

To a couple of JF's? Way to go!!!!
someone@some.domain - 03 Jul 2009 05:55 GMT
>> In article <4a500ff3.42851062@news.flex.com>,
> jayjayjpg@blarf-fake-not-real.com (jj) wrote:
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>To a couple of JF's? Way to go!!!!

gernot, i started the tachikoma and did you know it's the translucent model?
those are very cool. thanks again for getting that for me.
i wonder if  there's a fuchikoma kit?
the insanity never ends.
Gernot Hassenpflug - 03 Jul 2009 09:29 GMT
>>> In article <4a500ff3.42851062@news.flex.com>,
>> jayjayjpg@blarf-fake-not-real.com (jj) wrote:
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> i wonder if  there's a fuchikoma kit?
> the insanity never ends.

glad you are enjoying it! i don't remember if it said on the box
translucent or not, but i'm certainly glad you got a good deal there!

happy happy modeling...
Gernot
someone@some.domain - 03 Jul 2009 15:55 GMT
>> In article
> <m2k52q766d.fsf@NOTE049.local.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me>,
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>happy happy modeling...
>Gernot

i believe you got the regular plastic price. in any case, it was very kind of
you to score that for me. i have collected all the tachikoma day segments and
made one movie.
did you ever watch the 2nd gig series? the last one is an a.s kicker. the
tachis start blowing up satellites to create a derbirs barrier to stop the
american empire's nuclear missle aimed the the refugees. they needed one more
to complete the defense when they find out it's the one they are stored on and
run from. the scene where they are in a circle singing about how everyone has
a ghost, (soul) when they crash their satellite into the missle and destroy
it. it's a really powerfull scene. at the end the major is quoting salinger,
kant and some really obscure philosophers. yee haa! who said manga is just
tits and a.s? who said anime is obtuse?
the best tachikoma line is from the song they sing,
"when we hold our hands up to the sun,
and peek through our fingers,
we can see the deep red blood flowing inside." !!
and of course the major is always great to watch. she's a bit top heavy for
me, but wow, what a brain.
William Banaszak - 06 Jul 2009 05:05 GMT
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> i will hold doors, give seats to those in need, and try to be polite. but....
> mr wmb, i suspect you do just fine.

   And I wouldn't hesitate to help someone who fell on their kiester in
front of a store either.  I hold doors for people, say please and thank
you and pick up stuff I knock off the shelf at the supermarket.  Heck, I
even straighten out the carts at the return spot.
   I used to be popular at the LHS because I'd straighten out the
shelves as I'm browsing.  I hate messiness which only adds to my stress
in my current situation.  (My kid and his family live with me.)
If it's going to be messy I want to be the messmaker. ;)

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
someone@some.domain - 06 Jul 2009 05:20 GMT
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>Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.

just hide and don't look in any common areas. can't you get in and out without
hitting messville? i had the impression you had your own entrance. or did i
miss memeber?
William Banaszak - 08 Jul 2009 04:10 GMT
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> hitting messville? i had the impression you had your own entrance. or did i
> miss memeber?

A-ha, you missed!  Seriously, no I don't have an outside entrance but I
did get a lock put on my door at the top of the stairs.

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
someone@some.domain - 08 Jul 2009 05:39 GMT
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>Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.

and a peephole to really drive the point home?
i really thought you mentioned a door so i thought of an au pair setup.
remember to leave wheeled toys on the stairs.....
William Banaszak - 10 Jul 2009 03:48 GMT
> so i thought of an au pair setup.

So did I but they won't hire one.
;)

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
Gray Ghost - 06 Jul 2009 16:46 GMT
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> in my current situation.  (My kid and his family live with me.)
> If it's going to be messy I want to be the messmaker. ;)

Oh man! I used to do that as a kid. I thought I was the only one.

> Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.

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willshak - 06 Jul 2009 22:27 GMT
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>  
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> Oh man! I used to do that as a kid. I thought I was the only one.
>  

I still do it. Turn boxes around so that they are front forward.
Pick up stuff from the floor and make sure I put it back in the right spot.

>  
>> Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
>>    
>
>  

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William Banaszak - 08 Jul 2009 04:12 GMT
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>> Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.

It's a sickness.
But then again, how can you find what you seek when everything's askew.

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
Gray Ghost - 08 Jul 2009 04:14 GMT
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> Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.

Exactly! A lesson I wish the rest of my family would learn.

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someone@some.domain - 08 Jul 2009 05:43 GMT
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>Exactly! A lesson I wish the rest of my family would learn.

don't you use the club of memory? whack, remember now? whack, remember now?
yeah, yeah.....!
Gray Ghost - 08 Jul 2009 06:22 GMT
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> don't you use the club of memory? whack, remember now? whack, remember
> now? yeah, yeah.....!

Do you know how hard a 15 yo's head is? I fear I might stave it in before
realization dawns. Thank God his 16 yo cousin is visitng. He's glad to be
here and a hard worker.

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someone@some.domain - 08 Jul 2009 05:42 GMT
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>Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
i miss the dewey decimal. never had to struggle to find a book.
William Banaszak - 10 Jul 2009 03:51 GMT
> i miss the dewey decimal. never had to struggle to find a book.

Where'd it go?

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
someone@some.domain - 10 Jul 2009 16:51 GMT
>> i miss the dewey decimal. never had to struggle to find a book.
>
>Where'd it go?
>
>Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
in the dumpster
William Banaszak - 11 Jul 2009 04:25 GMT
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> in the dumpster

Assuming this to be true, what the heck are libraries using now?
I haven't been in to the library in some time since the parking meters
got so greedy.

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
someone@some.domain - 11 Jul 2009 05:12 GMT
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>Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
simple alphabets.
WmB - 11 Jul 2009 05:41 GMT
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> simple alphabets.

Well the fiction section usually is alphabetically shelved. Happily, Dewey D
is alive and well in the non-fiction section of public and school libraries
in NC. You don't actually have to step into one these days to see. I browse
the local stacks online. I can check on availability, reserve a copy and
even check out a book and then drop by later to pick it up. I'd be real
surprised to learn that we here in Dogpatch have a more advanced library
system than the rest of the country. Check online, you might be pleasantly
surprised.

Ya gotta love the 21st Century... in some respects.

WmB
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I'd miss the smell of the books.  There is actually a library here in my
township but I've never been inside.  I can't moan about parking meters
there as there are none.  I just never have the time.
Now why did I think you were in Alabama?

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
tomcervo - 12 Jul 2009 14:30 GMT
On Jul 10, 11:25�pm, William Banaszak <checkrepl...@nextline.com>
wrote:
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Well, the internet for one thing. Interlibrary Loan for another, which
means you can find that book on amphibious tanks at a library across
the state, order it online and pick it up at your local library.
Don Stauffer - 13 Jul 2009 14:40 GMT
>> Assuming this to be true, what the heck are libraries using now?
>> I haven't been in to the library in some time since the parking meters
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> means you can find that book on amphibious tanks at a library across
> the state, order it online and pick it up at your local library.

Our old library at work used LOC indexing, but most public libraries
still use DD.  Yes, IL is really great- I use it all the time.  And it
wouldn't work NEARLY as well but for the computers!

In addition to use for books, I also frequently request journal and
magazine articles, and usually they just send copies, and as long as the
library that has the periodical belongs to a certain organization that
my library also belongs to, the copy is free.  Very seldom do I have to
pay for the copy.

So, while the internet is my first search resource when starting a new
model, if it is one I really want to put effort into, the library is
next.  I can access my library's catalog from my home computer, so it is
easy to see if the system has anything. If not, I do an online search
for applicable books and email a librarian with the IL request.
someone@some.domain - 02 Jul 2009 05:00 GMT
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>people used to be polite?!

well, much more so than today. it is my belief that you can measure the
decline of a civilization by the rate of decline in civility. as a culture
dies, rudeness becomes a touchstone.
i can see, and often hear the decline. people holding doors, giving seats to
the elderly and waiting for people to exit before shoving one's way onto
public conveyance are all a pretty good guide to a state of health.
brother and sisters, hang onto that strap. it's going to be a REALLY bumpy
flight.
Jack G - 02 Jul 2009 04:43 GMT
Makes a great double feature with The Bridges At Toko-Ri - Grace Kelly
instead of June Allyson.

Jack G.
WmB - 02 Jul 2009 05:11 GMT
> Makes a great double feature with The Bridges At Toko-Ri - Grace Kelly
> instead of June Allyson.
>
> Jack G.

A tad too much Mickey Rooney for my taste, but Frederic March makes up for
it in spades.

I recently read that the Michener novel and movie were based on actual
events witnessed by Michener during his time aboard the USS Valley Forge.
This is a pretty good accounting of the influences on Michener's book:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0IAX/is_3_84/ai_108548248/

The notable difference between reality, the book and the movie is that
Michener had no way of knowing at the time, that the downed airmen
surrounded by the Chicoms survived the action and were returned home after
the war.

WmB
tomcervo - 11 Jul 2009 01:33 GMT
> > Makes a great double feature with The Bridges At Toko-Ri - Grace Kelly
> > instead of June Allyson.
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> WmB

This has come up before,  but if you haven't heard the story . . .
The studio wanted a happy ending, but the screenwriter Valentine
Davies insisted on staying true to the book. He put up a fight and was
backed by star William Holden, who said he wouldn't do the picture if
they changed the ending.
Holden's brother was a naval aviator killed in WW2. His friends said
that Holden's performance was based on him.
William Banaszak - 14 Jul 2009 04:56 GMT
Sunday was deadsville on TV so I yanked out my taped copy of "Enemy
Below" and thoroughly enjoyed it.  I taped it about 18 years ago on the
old AMC and enjoyed no commercial interruptions.

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
 
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