I picked up one of those Lindberg Civil War artillery sets (I got an
original, not the current re-issue, didn't pay a lot for it).
I would estimate it is about an eight or nine pounder. Do we have any
folks here who are Civil War artillery buffs? The instructions call for
painting the carriage and limber natural wood, which doesn't seem right
to me. All I have seen on display were painted. I probably will do it
as Union piece, but would go the other side if I can only get good
reference data on Confederate equipment. Anyone know what color each
side painted their artillery equipment?
I am assuming by that period the barrel would be cast iron rather than
bronze.
frank - 19 Jul 2009 16:34 GMT
Hmm. I've got that re-pop kit but it's sitting in my stash.
However, having the Vicksburg Nat'l Military Park in my hometown here,
all of the cannons on display there are painted, but, AFAIK, nothing
on them is made of wood, it's all cast iron or something. I would
think the originals would be as likely painted as left unpainted,
especially if done as CSA toward the latter days of the War (of
Northern Aggression) as we were getting in pretty poor shape. IIRC,
the cannons in the VNMP are painted black & dark green & I don't know
that it's different for whose they were.
> I picked up one of those Lindberg Civil War artillery sets (I got an
> original, not the current re-issue, didn't pay a lot for it).
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> I am assuming by that period the barrel would be cast iron rather than
> bronze.
OldSchool - 19 Jul 2009 17:38 GMT
> I picked up one of those Lindberg Civil War artillery sets (I got an
> original, not the current re-issue, didn't pay a lot for it).
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> I am assuming by that period the barrel would be cast iron rather than
> bronze.
Take a look at some of the images here:
http://www.wildhorsebooks.com/civil_war_artillery.htm
They seem to confirm the "natural wood" look. I'd expect the
"display" articles to be painted simply to preserve the wood. not
sure they would have gone to the trouble / cost for a piece in the
field, tho.
some other information you might find of interest:
http://www.cwartillery.org/aguns.html
WmB - 19 Jul 2009 18:43 GMT
>I picked up one of those Lindberg Civil War artillery sets (I got an
>original, not the current re-issue, didn't pay a lot for it).
>
> I would estimate it is about an eight or nine pounder. Do we have any
> folks here who are Civil War artillery buffs?
Only to the extent of "never drill into a cannonball that seems unsually
light".
As for the lumber, I wouldn't go too much by what you see today. What
factors drive a private collector or museum in their preservation and
restoration efforts are not neccesarily the same set of driving factors that
existed at the time an item was in military use. Today, we place a premium
on accurately preserving and restoring things to an extreme that in the past
was not always appreciated and practiced even less. More often than not, you
just never really can be sure what you're looking at, where it's been, who
touched it and why they did what they did. I think we know less about the
past than we think we do or as some experts like to let on. Otherwise we
wouldn't be enthralled every so often by the latest theory that challenges
conventional and often long held beliefs.
My well worn solution in the absence of concrete facts is to use my
imagination. On the one hand it isn't hard to imagine CW era manufacturers
churning out dispendable war material with little or no concern to
appearance or longevity. Pictures exist of depots overflowing with
manufactured goods stacked as high as any seen in WWI or WWII. Bare wood
would seem logical under harried wartime conditions. On the other hand you
might imagine that any cannon operating in a coastal artillery battery or
anywhere near salt water would be a good candidate to have received a
protective finish. Or not.
As for the gun itself, I can't imagine how you could really go wrong with a
blackened cast gun.
WmB
frank - 19 Jul 2009 21:04 GMT
I just did a Google Images search for 'vicksburg national
military park cannon' & got a bunch of pics. It indeed shows these
being what looks like OD, black & the barrels look like green-
weathered bronze/brass/copper color, whether they're painted or not, I
dunno. You might do some more Googling in Images to see what you can
find about Civil War cannons.
> I picked up one of those Lindberg Civil War artillery sets (I got an
> original, not the current re-issue, didn't pay a lot for it).
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> I am assuming by that period the barrel would be cast iron rather than
> bronze.
Mike Smith - 20 Jul 2009 01:29 GMT
I just did a Google Images search for 'vicksburg national
military park cannon' & got a bunch of pics. It indeed shows these
being what looks like OD, black & the barrels look like green-
weathered bronze/brass/copper color, whether they're painted or not, I
dunno. You might do some more Googling in Images to see what you can
find about Civil War cannons.
On Jul 19, 8:35 am, Don Stauffer <stauf...@usfamily.net> wrote:
> I picked up one of those Lindberg Civil War artillery sets (I got an
> original, not the current re-issue, didn't pay a lot for it).
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> I am assuming by that period the barrel would be cast iron rather than
> bronze.
Not sure about this but depending on the wood used it may just have been
scraped and coated with boiled linseed oil, that soaks in but as an air
drying oil it then forms a waterproof barrier that stops the wood soaking up
water in the rain. That'd have the effect of darkening the wood.
As I say ACW is not something I know about, but I was at sea for years and
thats how we handled exposed wood.
Regards
Mike
tomcervo - 20 Jul 2009 04:45 GMT
There are some noted Civil War artists--Dan Troiani, Mort Kunstler--
who paint for customers who tend to be sticklers for accuracy. I would
look up some of their work.
Don Stauffer - 20 Jul 2009 14:36 GMT
I did a search on Civil War and artillery. That was the search that
showed a lot of natural finish. I suspect that the majority of what I
found were modern carriages with an attractive, but not authentic
finish. I will indeed try the vicksburg term in my next search.
> I just did a Google Images search for 'vicksburg national
> military park cannon' & got a bunch of pics. It indeed shows these
> being what looks like OD, black & the barrels look like green-
> weathered bronze/brass/copper color, whether they're painted or not, I
> dunno. You might do some more Googling in Images to see what you can
> find about Civil War cannons.
drcooley - 27 Jul 2009 20:38 GMT
First off the Lindberg kits are terrible - I wouldn't touch them. I
discovered 1/16 scale Civil War guns, limbers and caissons that are
really remarkable. The wood is painted OD in the instructions and the
ones I have seen at Antietam were green.