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Model Forum / General / Models / July 2009First kit I've thrown in the trash...
Trumpeter's F4F-4 Wildcat. Absolutely lousy fit, at least with mine. I'm finished with Trumpeter. For me, they're over-engineered, *way* overpriced, and simply unsatisfying. I'm going back to simplicity; I'll build the old Revell Wildcat and Hasegawa F6F. In fact, I think I'll spend some time with a number of these old kits... -- david > Trumpeter's F4F-4 Wildcat. Absolutely lousy fit, at least with mine. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > -- david oops. I just bought the pre war version. But I agree totally with you re the simple kits. With the Revell 1/32 kits, they are always gonna work, and you will get what you want. A model of a Wildcat. Except for the weird undercarriage that I have not once built right in 30 years, Revell planes are a relaxing way to enjoy the hobby. never did quite figure out why models have to have 1000 pieces, many of which no one ever sees........ Craig >> Trumpeter's F4F-4 Wildcat. Absolutely lousy fit, at least with mine. >> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Craig Hasagawa over Revell for me...but I've got two Trumpeter F4Fs and a host of their other WWII and jet kits, and I'm buildin' 'em all! ...if I live long enough...  Signature- Rufus Good! Got anything you want to trade? I have four trumpeter kits in my stash: 1/32 mig-21, 1/72 f-105, 1/72 ra5c and a wyvern. Most opened, all unstarted. Got a 1/32 Revell Wildcat by chance? -- david > Good! Got anything you want to trade? I have four trumpeter kits in my > stash: 1/32 mig-21, 1/72 f-105, 1/72 ra5c and a wyvern. Most opened, > all unstarted. Got a 1/32 Revell Wildcat by chance? > > -- david I have the Trumpeter Mig-21 (I have most of the Trumpeter 1/32 Migs - I'm missing the Fulcrum...but I have the Revell ones), and I had a Revell 1/32 Wildcat...but I think I either trashed it or gave it away some time ago. ...ooops - nope, I still have it - the Martlet one. I think I was planning to rob the windscreen from it, or use it to correct the shape of the Trumpeter one. I need to look it over. Signature- Rufus >never >did quite figure out why models have to have 1000 pieces, many of >which no one ever sees........ Because what wins at contests are models with every door, hatch, and panel open; parts laying on the ground, guts hanging out everywhere . . . KL >Because what wins at contests are models with every door, hatch, and panel >open; parts laying on the ground, guts hanging out everywhere . . . ...And if it weren't so true, this would have been funny. OM Signature]=====================================[ ] OMBlog - http://www.io.com/~o_m/omworld [ ] Let's face it: Sometimes you *need* [ ] an obnoxious opinion in your day! [ ]=====================================[ > >Because what wins at contests are models with every door, hatch, and panel > >open; parts laying on the ground, guts hanging out everywhere . . . [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > ] an obnoxious opinion in your day! [ > ]=====================================[ Sounds like the people who build for contests are building Transformers..... >Trumpeter's F4F-4 Wildcat. Absolutely lousy fit, at least with mine. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >-- david isn't that $100 kit? I got mine for substantially less, but even so it took a lot to get me to toss it (I don't like to give up). I just finally realized that fighting with a kit isn't what I'm looking for in this hobby. -- david > Trumpeter's F4F-4 Wildcat. Absolutely lousy fit, at least with mine. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > -- david (Oldster cackle) You kids. Back in the olden days we used to glue up two mishapen parts, wrap 'em in rubber bands and lay a dictionary on them to get a straight wing. But you're absolutely right. The only kits I buy sight or review unseen are Tamiya. Life's too short. > > Trumpeter's F4F-4 Wildcat. Absolutely lousy fit, at least with mine. > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > But you're absolutely right. The only kits I buy sight or review > unseen are Tamiya. Life's too short. I remember helping my dad wrap the copper wire around the engine, hoping to get that "jet sound" from those early 1960's kits. Hawk? Never worked. Not once. Craig >> > Trumpeter's F4F-4 Wildcat. Absolutely lousy fit, at least with mine. >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > >Craig i was the only one i knew that could make those wind it yourself lindberg motors work. my friends would do everything but follow the directions, which seemed really easy. wish i had one to build now, but the prices...yeech. >>> Trumpeter's F4F-4 Wildcat. Absolutely lousy fit, at least with mine. >>> I'm finished with Trumpeter. For me, they're over-engineered, *way* [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Craig Lindberg, although Monogram put one in the first edition of their 1/72nd B-52. Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. Hehe. I'll bet I'm not far behind you. I remember watching my mother build an old Aurora Spitfire for me (I was six, I think); that kit was molded in emerald green (at least that's the image in my mind). -- david >Hehe. I'll bet I'm not far behind you. I remember watching my mother >build an old Aurora Spitfire for me (I was six, I think); that kit was >molded in emerald green (at least that's the image in my mind). ...Time to run a poll: How many of us had our first kit built by our moms? OM Signature]=====================================[ ] OMBlog - http://www.io.com/~o_m/omworld [ ] Let's face it: Sometimes you *need* [ ] an obnoxious opinion in your day! [ ]=====================================[ >> Hehe. I'll bet I'm not far behind you. I remember watching my mother >> build an old Aurora Spitfire for me (I was six, I think); that kit was [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > OM ...grandfather. Signature- Rufus > ...grandfather. Well I'm old enough to be. -- david >> ...grandfather. > > Well I'm old enough to be. > > -- david ...heh. Signature- Rufus > >> ...grandfather. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > -- > - Rufus Hey my brother-in-law became a grandfather at 45 and a GREAT- grandfather at 68...... >>>> ...grandfather. >>> Well I'm old enough to be. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Hey my brother-in-law became a grandfather at 45 and a GREAT- > grandfather at 68...... ...my grandfather became a great grandfather when he started me building models at the ripe old age of four. Signature- Rufus >>>> ...grandfather. >>> Well I'm old enough to be. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Hey my brother-in-law became a grandfather at 45 and a GREAT- > grandfather at 68...... I used to know a grandmother of 34. Very fecund family. ;) Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. : ...Time to run a poll: How many of us had our first kit built by our : moms? My father insisted on "helping" me assemble a Revell Tarantula dragster. What an unmitigated disaster. He meant well, but has zero spacial ability. It was years before I built another model. Bruce Signature------------------------------------------------------------------------ "I like bad!" Bruce Burden Austin, TX. - Thuganlitha The Power and the Prophet Robert Don Hughes >> Hehe. I'll bet I'm not far behind you. I remember watching my mother >> build an old Aurora Spitfire for me (I was six, I think); that kit was [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > OM Built mine myself with Stanley Iron Glue. That allowed me to rebuild it often. I also managed to frost the entire canopy so it looked like soda got inside. Wish I had that one yet. Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. >>> Hehe. I'll bet I'm not far behind you. I remember watching my mother >>> build an old Aurora Spitfire for me (I was six, I think); that kit was [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. i also built mine myself. the idea anyone would help was laughable. my mother hated the smell of glue and always complained so i would spread a glob on cardboard and walk around the apt. i believe i built a 1/48 p-40. anyone guess what maker? i keep thinking revell. it had shark mouth decals but was u.s, i think. it was repaired and re painted endlessly, finally being smashed with a hammer one day during attitude adjustment. > ...Time to run a poll: How many of us had our first kit built by our > moms? > > OM Me. Dad criticized my choice of paint schemes and my Mom threatened to kill me every so often if I spilled paint on her new orange shag carpet (that should help date it) WmB >> ...Time to run a poll: How many of us had our first kit built by our >> moms? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >WmB pre cambrian extinction? >>> ...Time to run a poll: How many of us had our first kit built by our >>> moms? [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> > pre cambrian extinction? pre Billy Beer WmB > <some...@some.domain> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Positively the ~worst~ beer on the East Coast! >>> ...Time to run a poll: How many of us had our first kit built by our >>> moms? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> > pre cambrian extinction? Heck, he had carpets. How about linoleum? Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. >>>> ...Time to run a poll: How many of us had our first kit built by our >>>> moms? [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. What'ya think the orange shag was covering. WmB >> In article <x_SdnaPDne1mg_XXnZ2dnUVZ_h0AAAAA@earthlink.com>, " WmB" >> <HELLinhock@earthlink.net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. ever read the original formula? yuck. > > ...Time to run a poll: How many of us had our first kit built by our > > moms? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > WmB Me too, an Aurora F-100 Super Sabre (small size). I was about 10 (1957) and we'd do one step each night before bed and after homework. Didn't paint it and learned about decaling from the instruction sheet. Wish I still had it. >>> ...Time to run a poll: How many of us had our first kit built by our >>> moms? [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Didn't paint it and learned about decaling from the instruction sheet. > Wish I still had it. I got a pair of Aurora kits for my 8th birthday. The F-100 was one, the other was the F-94C. I got a second chance at the F-94 in my teens but the F-100 got missed. Too bad as the second F-94 is downstairs on the shelf. Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. On Jul 25, 1:17 am, William Banaszak <checkrepl...@nextline.com> wrote: > >>> ...Time to run a poll: How many of us had our first kit built by our > >>> moms? [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > - Show quoted text - I picked up an F-94 in Canada a lot of years ago for list price ($1.29?). THat's on my to-do list for this winter - I hope. I remember my dad struggling for hours building the old monogram T-28. This was in Colorado in 1963 (I was four). Had retractable gear and everything. I think building it frustrated him because that was the last one he built for me. My mom did the spitfire later while my dad was at sea. I did them all after that. -- david > >Hehe. I'll bet I'm not far behind you. I remember watching my mother > >build an old Aurora Spitfire for me (I was six, I think); that kit was > >molded in emerald green (at least that's the image in my mind). > > ...Time to run a poll: How many of us had our first kit built by our > moms? My mom did one for me at about age 5 or 6. It was a jet. It was white plastic. Walt >You kids. Back in the olden days we used to glue up two mishapen >parts, wrap 'em in rubber bands and lay a dictionary on them to get a >straight wing. ...Some of us who went through that have tried *REALLY* hard to forget those times, Thomas. But I do recall two in particular that the above methods didn't help one iota: 1) In 1969, Revell changed *something* in their molding process with regards to the 1/96 Apollo CSM/LM "Over the Rainbow" kit, where something like 30% of the SM halves were warped so that the two halves didn't fit together. I'd bought one of these to go alongside - or, more specifically, at the base - of the 1/96 Saturn V kit, and when I found the defect during a test fit, I took the kit back. The guy at the local hobby shop saw me walk in with the kit and before I had a chance to tell him what the problem was, he went "oh no! Not another one!". Apparently the entire lot he'd gotten of these kits all had the same parts fit issue, and Revell had sent a letter advising retailers to send the kits back if they were bought between two specific dates. The hobby shop guy figured the sprue with the two halves wasn't landing correctly when it was ejected from the mold, and that one half was being warped out of shape and simply didn't get caught by QC. 2) I'd come across the same identical problem about 10 years later with a mint-in-box "Dick Tracy Space Coupe" that the late, lamented Village Hobby Shop came across. As Aurora was dead by this time, and this was a long out-of-production kit, getting the part *or* the kit replaced wasn't an option. And trying to force the two halves of the can into place produced the expected result: It held just long enough to crack in two about an hour after the paint dried. And *that* was the first kit I ever tossed in the trash :-P OM Signature]=====================================[ ] OMBlog - http://www.io.com/~o_m/omworld [ ] Let's face it: Sometimes you *need* [ ] an obnoxious opinion in your day! [ ]=====================================[ That's a good story. -- david > Trumpeter's F4F-4 Wildcat. Absolutely lousy fit, at least with mine. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > -- david Glad you said that. I was peering at the Trumpeter F4F just the other day but didn't buy it. Walt My humble opinion is that the "best" new 1/32 kits, in terms of balancing detail with good engineering, are the Hasegawa kits. I've thoroughly enjoyed ever one I've built. I have the Tamiya 1/32 Zero and I'm certain it will build beautifully, but it's pretty involved and I just haven't found the energy yet to tackle it. Hasegawa is Number One in my book. -- david > My humble opinion is that the "best" new 1/32 kits, in terms of > balancing detail with good engineering, are the Hasegawa kits. I've [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > -- david Second! Signature- Rufus on 7/25/2009 1:13 PM (ET) david wrote the following: > My humble opinion is that the "best" new 1/32 kits, in terms of > balancing detail with good engineering, are the Hasegawa kits. I've [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > -- david > Back in the late 70s, early 80s, when I was in a building frenzy, Hasegawa was my choice for planes, Tamiya for tanks, Peerless for military vehicles. |
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