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British Matilda - Used throughout the war?

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Musicman59 - 26 Jul 2009 02:29 GMT
wondering if it would be "proper" to use the Matilda in late war
diorama settings in Europe.

thx - Craig

any chance of a Matilda vs. King Tiger encounter?   :-)
El Viejo Dragon - 26 Jul 2009 08:15 GMT
> wondering if it would be "proper" to use the Matilda in late war
> diorama settings in Europe.
>
> thx - Craig
>
> any chance of a Matilda vs. King Tiger encounter?   :-)

No Matildas in '44 NW Europe.

Only late war Matildas are the Australian Frogs in New Guinea.
Moramarth - 26 Jul 2009 13:59 GMT
> wondering if it would be "proper" to use the Matilda in late war
> diorama settings in Europe.
>
> thx - Craig
>
> any chance of a Matilda vs. King Tiger encounter?   :-)
Highly unlikely.  Soviets may have had some of their Matildas still
running as late as 1944 (IIRC production was continued until 1943 for
that purpose).  Germans captured several after Dunkirk and never threw
anything away, although whether they were still gun tanks or had been
converted to some other use is unclear.

Regards,

Moramarth
kim - 26 Jul 2009 16:44 GMT
>> wondering if it would be "proper" to use the Matilda in late war
>> diorama settings in Europe.
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> anything away, although whether they were still gun tanks or had been
> converted to some other use is unclear.

Rommel supposedly chose one as his personal vehicle.

(kim)
someone@some.domain - 26 Jul 2009 18:04 GMT
"kim" <ntscuser@aol.com> wrote in news:s-
WdnRJOGL9g5PHXnZ2dnUVZ8sednZ2d@giganews.com:

>>> wondering if it would be "proper" to use the Matilda in late war
>>> diorama settings in Europe.
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>
> (kim)

i've read that he used a big carvan command vehicle in africa. his little
room had a cot and a pic of adolph....tho that part is suspect. his wife
was a bit btter looking than the f.cker, fuhrer, whatever.
the story i heard was that the cermans captured several early on and he
liked them so they became part of his circus.
cookie?
AMPSOne@aol.com - 26 Jul 2009 18:58 GMT
On Jul 26, 12:04�pm, "some...@some.domain" <some...@some.domain>
wrote:
> "kim" <ntscu...@aol.com> wrote in news:s-
> WdnRJOGL9g5PHXnZ2dnUVZ8sedn...@giganews.com:
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Rommel had a captured British 4 x 4 armoured command vehicle - can't
recal the name of the truck but he named it "Mammut" (Mammoth) and
used it. Think that is the one you are talking about.

Cookie Sewell
someone@some.domain - 26 Jul 2009 19:58 GMT
> On Jul 26, 12:04�pm, "some...@some.domain" <some...@some.domain>
> wrote:
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>
> Cookie Sewell

yes. i the i was with rommel or rommel adjutant, whatever book, the
author says they called them caravans. it was kind of a quickie book,
obviously exploitational, so that may be bullshit.
the author has some questionable opinions and is loose with battle
facts. the only good part was when that general, whats-his name , got
his a.s killed going to the front. the author makes it sound like a
mojor cluster intercourse and that reads pretty well.
Wulf Corbett - 26 Jul 2009 20:05 GMT
>Rommel had a captured British 4 x 4 armoured command vehicle - can't
>recal the name of the truck but he named it "Mammut" (Mammoth) and
>used it. Think that is the one you are talking about.

I believe he used the AEC Armoured Command Vehicle, based on the AEC
Matador (not Matilda!) truck.

Wulf
someone@some.domain - 26 Jul 2009 23:18 GMT
>>Rommel had a captured British 4 x 4 armoured command vehicle - can't
>>recal the name of the truck but he named it "Mammut" (Mammoth) and
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>
> Wulf

this says it was a dorchester, good pic, too.

http://www.afrikakorps.org/mammoth.htm
Wulf Corbett - 26 Jul 2009 23:38 GMT
>this says it was a dorchester, good pic, too.
>
>http://www.afrikakorps.org/mammoth.htm

Ah, well, it was an AEC...

Wulf
someone@some.domain - 26 Jul 2009 23:41 GMT
>>this says it was a dorchester, good pic, too.
>>
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>
> Wulf

hey, i cheated.....
Wulf Corbett - 26 Jul 2009 23:44 GMT
>this says it was a dorchester, good pic, too.
>
>http://www.afrikakorps.org/mammoth.htm

Hold on, we're both right, the Dorchester was based on the Matador
chassis...

Wulf
someone@some.domain - 27 Jul 2009 01:50 GMT
>>this says it was a dorchester, good pic, too.
>>
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>
> Wulf

ah, sher gut. i forgot how to do an umlatt on a qwerty windows pos.....
Rik Shepherd - 27 Jul 2009 14:03 GMT
> Germans captured several after Dunkirk and never threw
> anything away, although whether they were still gun tanks or had been
> converted to some other use is unclear.

I'm pretty sure I've seen a picture (probably in an Almark(?) pamphlet on
German SPGs of foreign origin) showing a Matilda with a gun (memory says a
French 47mm AT gun but I don't know it the French even had 47mm AT guns)
mounted in a home-made looking square box where the turret should be.

They also stuck 37mm PAKs onto Universal carriers, which look quite cute, if
ineffective.
El Viejo Dragon - 27 Jul 2009 16:26 GMT
 > I'm pretty sure I've seen a picture (probably in an Almark(?)
pamphlet on
> German SPGs of foreign origin) showing a Matilda with a gun (memory says a
> French 47mm AT gun but I don't know it the French even had 47mm AT guns)
> mounted in a home-made looking square box where the turret should be.

One Matilda, with 5cm PAK, used for coastal defense.
Gerald Owens - 27 Jul 2009 07:06 GMT
> wondering if it would be "proper" to use the Matilda in late war
> diorama settings in Europe.
>
> thx - Craig
>
> any chance of a Matilda vs. King Tiger encounter?   :-)

None. Matildas were withdrawn before the end of the North African
campaign. They were used against the Japanese in the far east through
the late war years.
Gerald Owens
 
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