Besides the obvious kit's I'm waiting for from
the mailman... (my own Santa here)
I got a Trumpeter 1/32 F6F-3N !
Hey even tho it's in blind mans scale, I like it !!
I really do !
OK I have four 1/32 models total right now, what...
are these things trying to breed on me when I'm not
looking ?
That's it modeling wise...

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eyeball - 26 Dec 2009 13:10 GMT
> Besides the obvious kit's I'm waiting for from
> the mailman... (my own Santa here)
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I got a Blue Ribbon 1/450 bagged 747, Airfix dogfight double Mossie
Vs. Me262, and the small scale Polar Lights Lost in Space robot. And
lots of non-modeling goodies, so I had a pretty good haul overall.
RobG - 26 Dec 2009 14:16 GMT
> Besides the obvious kit's I'm waiting for from
> the mailman... (my own Santa here)
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> That's it modeling wise...
3/4 of 4/5 of eff all, same as always. Which is fine by me, I hate
Christmas and all the commercial crap that goes with it. Bah Humbug.
RobG
(The Aussie one)
Val Kraut - 26 Dec 2009 15:16 GMT
Been getting into armored trains lately: Recent Trumpeter releases :
Panzerjager Triebwagen 51, and Dampflokomotive 86, and some new Dr. Who
DVDs. The Triebwagen is listed as a January 2010 release, inside appears to
have complete Panzer IV turret interiors but not much else except wheel
enclosures, somewhat typical of Trumpeter unevenness. Got the week off and
already two other kits in work - so time to do some research on
scratchbuilding the rest of the Triebwagen interior.
Val Kraut
Musicman59 - 26 Dec 2009 18:02 GMT
> Been getting into armored trains lately: Recent Trumpeter releases :
> Panzerjager Triebwagen 51, and Dampflokomotive 86, and some new Dr. Who
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> Val Kraut
on a side note, always been curious about armored trains.
always thought it would be easier to just bomb the track in front or
behind it
or bomb the side of the track and derail it. No need to deal with the
train and
its armor at all.
Craig
Rufus - 26 Dec 2009 18:37 GMT
>> Been getting into armored trains lately: Recent Trumpeter releases :
>> Panzerjager Triebwagen 51, and Dampflokomotive 86, and some new Dr. Who
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> Craig
...heh...reminds me of a trip to the sim...where I REALLY screwed up
attacking a train. One thing I did learn - you don't do it head-on...at
low level...even if you do manage to somehow avoid crashing...

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Val Kraut - 26 Dec 2009 20:19 GMT
1) the lead flat car is used to detonate mines placed by sabateurs without
damaging the main units
2) Carry repair rails and ties
3) send a single scout car ahead to check the rails ahead of the main train.
4) clear the sides of the track a given distance to keep attackers at a
distance - or in open country.
In Europe the topography in many areas make rail (or water) the only
effective way of travel. Controlling and maintaining the rail system is
essential to mounting and supplying military operations.
The German and Russian railroads were different gauges. German work trains
backup up by the armored trains were used to rapidly move one rail on the
Russian tracks and thus provide for continued efficient transport forward.
The railroads also provided the means of moving some of the large seige guns
to the battlefield.
Although my interest at this point is mainly WW II, armored military trains
have a long history including the Boer War, the Russian Revolution and Large
Mortors in the American Civil War.
Val
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Rufus - 26 Dec 2009 20:24 GMT
> 1) the lead flat car is used to detonate mines placed by sabateurs without
> damaging the main units
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Are there many other kits of such, other than the big 1/35 ones from
Trumpeter that come to mind? They are mighty interesting...

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Val Kraut - 26 Dec 2009 20:37 GMT
"> Are there many other kits of such, other than the big 1/35 ones from
> Trumpeter that come to mind? They are mighty interesting...
Rufus
I tend to work in 1/35 when it come to armour. There are other WW II
Rail items from Trumpeter, Dragon, Revell and Ironside along with some
resin specials (big bucks); There's also freight cars specifically for
transporting tanks etc.
But there are other scales - in particular 1/72 that I've seen in the
Squadron catalog. There's was at least one complete train in Resin which got
a really bad review. Hasagawa had a Leopold and Karl Morser.
There also appears to be some units designed for HO or N gauge railroad
setups. There's a railroad group in Yahoo. Some of the guys seem to have
some extensive HO layouts with the big guns, freights carrying tanks and
aircraft, armored trains, hospital trains, V-2 launch trains etc.
Val Kraut
Rufus - 26 Dec 2009 20:56 GMT
> "> Are there many other kits of such, other than the big 1/35 ones from
>> Trumpeter that come to mind? They are mighty interesting...
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> Val Kraut
I like the big scales myself, so I've been pretty interested in the big
rail guns and engines from Trumpeter...but it's a newly acquired tilt,
so I'm not familiar with all that may be out there.
...but you've now given me a thought about putting a V-2 in whole or
sections on a flatbed under tarp(s) with one of Trumpeter's
switchers...in 1/35...hmmnnn...

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Val Kraut - 26 Dec 2009 21:02 GMT
> ...but you've now given me a thought about putting a V-2 in whole or
> sections on a flatbed under tarp(s) with one of Trumpeter's switchers...in
> 1/35...hmmnnn...
Rufus,
There was a design for a V-2 train - some photos on the net - much like
the plan for railroad mobile minuteman missles. You also need cars to haul
the fuel trucks etc. Not sure if they actually used these in to any degree -
but the V-2 erected on a flat car and being fueled made for an interesting
diorama.
Val Kraut
Rufus - 26 Dec 2009 23:07 GMT
>> ...but you've now given me a thought about putting a V-2 in whole or
>> sections on a flatbed under tarp(s) with one of Trumpeter's switchers...in
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> diorama.
> Val Kraut
That sounds pretty interesting, but I was thinking more along the lines
of doing a dio that just had whole missiles or assemblies in transit
through a switch yard or something...that would be sort of interesting,
and would still let the focus of the dio be the rail car and loco.
...but you're giving me some good ideas for justification of the
continued spending of large amounts of money...interesting stuff.

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someone@some.domain - 26 Dec 2009 21:17 GMT
>> "> Are there many other kits of such, other than the big 1/35 ones from
>>> Trumpeter that come to mind? They are mighty interesting...
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>sections on a flatbed under tarp(s) with one of Trumpeter's
>switchers...in 1/35...hmmnnn...
it would be cool to do van braun's truck convoy, too. one truck had the a.s
end of a v2 hanging out, or so one vet claimed.
The Old Man - 26 Dec 2009 22:14 GMT
> > "> Are there many other kits of such, other than the big 1/35 ones from
> >> Trumpeter that come to mind? They are mighty interesting...
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I've been toying with an admittedly fantasy Civil War-era armored
train. A gondola ahead, with sandbags and a couple of Gatling guns in
the lead corners, an American 4-4-0 with tender and armored boxcar
with two field guns on turntable to fire on either side of the train
and to the read. I've also been thinking of a flatcar with an old AMT
Civil War reconnaissance balloon. The train would be in 1:72. I have
the train pieces courtesy of ePay, in the form of an Advance "The
General" model train, and a set of Civil War-era engineers. All I have
to do is get off my dead a.s and start building it.
Val Kraut - 27 Dec 2009 01:56 GMT
You might consider one on the big mortars on a flatbed - should be some good
references. I think we've all been a little bit sold on Civil War rail since
Disnney did the Great Locomotive Chase.
"two field guns on turntable to fire on either side of the train
and to the rear".
Rufus - 26 Dec 2009 17:41 GMT
> Besides the obvious kit's I'm waiting for from
> the mailman... (my own Santa here)
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> That's it modeling wise...
...brass, brass, and more brass...Big Ed set for my 1/32 Hasagawa P-47,
and brass props for my two 1/72 U-Boats and my 1/72 GATO.
Now it's time to go shopping...

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R. Franklin - 26 Dec 2009 20:07 GMT
>Besides the obvious kit's I'm waiting for from
>the mailman... (my own Santa here)
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>That's it modeling wise...
The dog bought me a Micro-Mark punch and die set......
jonesy - 27 Dec 2009 01:27 GMT
> Besides the obvious kit's I'm waiting for from
> the mailman... (my own Santa here)
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> http://www.novac.com
Santa brought a Guillows Dauntless kit Its a whopper!!
and the Hawk 75 Sussu over Finland kit in 1/32
that ought to keep me busy
Musicman59 - 27 Dec 2009 16:18 GMT
> > Besides the obvious kit's I'm waiting for from
> > the mailman... (my own Santa here)
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> and the Hawk 75 Sussu over Finland kit in 1/32
> that ought to keep me busy
ohhhhh...the SBD has a 30 inch plus wingspan ! Am seriously
considering that one to re-enter the balsa world, last building in
1969.. lemme know how it works out!
Craig
Mad Modeller - 28 Dec 2009 04:54 GMT
Well I got enough HO track to make a 4x4 circle, a turnout, 1
Walther's FA1 & 2 Athearn hopper car kits. I fear that my grandson's
fascination with Thomas has re-awakened the 'Beast'. Now I'm
considering dragging out the frame to my old layout and re-installing
the legs to add to the other table upon which Thomas will rule. I'm
thinking of enough room to build a minimalist main with most of the rest
of the board hosting a yard for switching/shunting.
And here I thought I'd kicked the habit...
Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.