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Model Forum / General / Models / February 2010WHY WHY WHY!!!!
WHY is it! I can't buy an injected molded version of the C-141 Starlifter in any model, but I can buy an Amodel Il-76 in so many versions that it makes your head spin? Granted, they may cost a few bucks ($200/per), but they are at least available!!! WHY is it! I can't find a US tank correctly modeled for the Korean Conflict except from Korea and Japan!?!?!?!? WHY is it! I am having such a hard damned timed trying to fill my collection of Korea/Vietnam aircraft and ground vehicles?!?!?! These seem to be fairly popular in the 'Eastern' and 'Asian' model comp- anies! WHY is it! I can't find a single gol-danged kit of a HAWK, or NIKE, or Patriot, or ANYTHING ELSE that's air defense for the west in 1/72(ish) scale except for the M-163 and the Bloodhound for post- WWII ?!?!?!?! I'm getting fairly well irritated by now. I've been a modeler since the mid '70's and have not yet been able to buy anything more than a Bloodhound, an M-163 (oops sorry forgot!), and the Bradly Line- backer and HMMWV Avenger in 1/72(6) scale. Well, God, Show us what you're worth, and pro- duce these much needed kits in your own scale! Since, everyone already knows, 1/72 (-ish) is GOD'S OWN SCALE! /end rant/ -ahill > WHY is it! I can't buy an injected molded version > of the C-141 Starlifter in any model, but I can buy > an Amodel Il-76 in so many versions that it makes > your head spin? Granted, they may cost a few > bucks ($200/per), but they are at least available!!! Annigrad has a C 141, tho it is in resin... > WHY is it! I can't find a US tank correctly modeled > for the Korean Conflict except from Korea and > Japan!?!?!?!? Hmmm... have to look into that one. > WHY is it! I am having such a hard damned timed > trying to fill my collection of Korea/Vietnam aircraft > and ground vehicles?!?!?! These seem to be fairly > popular in the 'Eastern' and 'Asian' model comp- > anies! Hang in there Trumpeter is trying to help you. > WHY is it! I can't find a single gol-danged kit of a > HAWK, or NIKE, or Patriot, or ANYTHING ELSE > that's air defense for the west in 1/72(ish) scale > except for the M-163 and the Bloodhound for post- > WWII ?!?!?!?! There are models of Hawk, and Patriot systems out there. > I'm getting fairly well irritated by now. I've been a > modeler since the mid '70's and have not yet been > able to buy anything more than a Bloodhound, an > M-163 (oops sorry forgot!), and the Bradly Line- > backer and HMMWV Avenger in 1/72(6) scale. Because God does not like 1/72 as much as you think. > Well, God, Show us what you're worth, and pro- > duce these much needed kits in your own scale! > > Since, everyone already knows, 1/72 (-ish) is > GOD'S OWN SCALE! Guess it isn't God's own scale is it... > /end rant/ > > -ahill Don't worry, just start in on something you don't know a lot about. I've tried this and it works wonders. I don't suffer AMS as much this way. It's amazing when you work on a kit you know little about in real life. All of a sudden you are not counting rivets, or looking at improper shapes, you are MODELING !!! Thats whats important ! And Oh, BTW, try 1/48, or (gasp) 1/32, 1/35 scale sometime. You might find yourself happier for doing so :) (1/48 is the real mans scale)  SignatureAM http://sctuser.home.comcast.net http://www.novac.com > WHY is it! I can't buy an injected molded version > of the C-141 Starlifter in any model, but I can buy [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > -ahill ...God is obviously trying to tell you something. Signature- Rufus I blame it on my fellow modelers :-) I can understand that it is a big investment bringing out a new injection-molded kit. Seems like so many folks always buy that new version of the ME-109, while no one else but me wants to build an old Fokker airliner from the twenties :-( Thank god for vacu-form (resin is too rich for my wallet). > WHY is it! I can't buy an injected molded version > of the C-141 Starlifter in any model, but I can buy [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > -ahill > I blame it on my fellow modelers :-) I can understand that it is a big > investment bringing out a new injection-molded kit. Seems like so many > folks always buy that new version of the ME-109, while no one else but > me wants to build an old Fokker airliner from the twenties :-( Maybe our quality expectations these days are simply too high. I've started building older kits and adding very little to them. I'm currently working on the old Hasegawa 1/32 F6F, adding just a Verlinden cockpit set. I bought an old 1/32 Revell F4U on ebay the other day, again with a cockpit set but that's all. I'm truly enjoying the Hellcat build; not over-engineered by any means; reasonable parts count; decent fit. I expect the same of the Corsair, since I built that as a kid. I've given up on high-priced kits. Trumpeter is the worst offender in my book because the quality of their kits generally doesn't justify the price (my opinion and experience of course). I want modelling to be fun again, and this is my path towards that end. To each his own, but I say to hell with $100+ masterpieces and go back to our childhood roots. -- david >> I blame it on my fellow modelers :-) I can understand that it is a big >> investment bringing out a new injection-molded kit. Seems like so many [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > >-- david Same here David. I am getting more enjoyment out of a simple Condor He-178 than from any recently built Tamigawa kit. Over-engineering and stupidly high part count is a pain in the arse. Tony Agree very much, the older cheeper kits can still be good modelling. And I don't mind cutting up the old cheap kits to try a conversion, but I'll not do that with a $100+ Trumpeter kit. The Trumpeter kits have some advantages and some disadvantages, and they seem to have more than one design department, take their Corsair with lots of parts but weak wingfolds and compare to their MiG 3 with very few parts, and no fiddely PE hinges. PCM, Hasegawa and Revell amongst others make new decent kits at decent prices - just look at the Revell Ju-88 in 1:32. When tackeling the old Revell Corsair there are some issues, especially the wheels needs some help, they look like Twiggy on a diet. but it makes a nice model. Claus Gustafsen, Strandby Denmark >> I blame it on my fellow modelers :-) I can understand that it is a big >> investment bringing out a new injection-molded kit. Seems like so many [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > -- david > When tackeling the old Revell Corsair there are some issues, especially the > wheels needs some help, they look like Twiggy on a diet. but it makes a nice > model. Yeah, I found a set of Lone Star resin wheels for the kit. The Corsair arrived yesterday by the way, and it really is very nice. It's in the original box that I remember as a kid; way cool. Looking forward to that after the Hellcat. -- peace, david >> When tackeling the old Revell Corsair there are some issues, especially the >> wheels needs some help, they look like Twiggy on a diet. but it makes a nice [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > -- > peace, david ...crap...there's a conspiracy afoot to make me drag out my Revell Corsair... Signature- Rufus > ...crap...there's a conspiracy afoot to make me drag out my Revell Corsair. Do it man! It's a lovely kit; it really is. Just enjoy it; maybe put a resin cockpit in it if that's your thing. GreatModels has some Lone Star stuff for Revell's Corsair. Or just build it from the box; it'll still look good and you'll have some old-fashioned fun. I'm stoked... -- david >> ...crap...there's a conspiracy afoot to make me drag out my Revell Corsair. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > -- david Actually, I have a Technics resin R-2800 engine, a couple of resin cockpit sets, Eduard etch, and a slew of other items I've forgotten about all in the box with it and waiting to go - I forget if I'd been considering scratch building a set of brass gear for it, or looking for a metal set... ...and then there's this just out - <http://www.hyperscale.com/2010/reviews/accessories/montexrma32164reviewrk_1.htm> ...so now I'm up for converting it to a Birdcage. Signature- Rufus >>> When tackeling the old Revell Corsair there are some issues, especially the >>> wheels needs some help, they look like Twiggy on a diet. but it makes a nice [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >....crap...there's a conspiracy afoot to make me drag out my Revell >Corsair... i thought you had the trumpeter? or is that your hellcat? i be very confused today. must be those damn black helicopters over the town. they're so stealthy you can't see or hear them. but you KNOW they're there. they fly over your town too, rufus. i saw amelia and walt at the 51 inn and they told me all about it. >>>> When tackeling the old Revell Corsair there are some issues, especially the >>>> wheels needs some help, they look like Twiggy on a diet. but it makes a nice [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > they fly over your town too, rufus. > i saw amelia and walt at the 51 inn and they told me all about it. ...lessee...I have a Revell Corsair, and a Trumpeter one...and two Trumpeter Wildcats (and a Revell Martlet), and a Hasagawa Hellcat...all in 1/32. ...then there's the Avenger, P-38, numerous Me 109s, and more jets than I have space to remember. You know you've been in the desert too long when alien chicks are a turn-on... Signature- Rufus >> In article<9omdnd5LbKOhCvnWnZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@mchsi.com>, Rufus<not@home.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] >You know you've been in the desert too long when alien chicks are a >turn-on... yeah, the green teeth are wierd but when they have purple........ >>> In article<9omdnd5LbKOhCvnWnZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@mchsi.com>, Rufus<not@home.com> >> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] >> > yeah, the green teeth are wierd but when they have purple........ ...dude - green teeth are an everyday thang up here...that ain't no fantasy. Signature- Rufus >> In article <gvydnSiygckLk_jWnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@mchsi.com>, Rufus <not@home.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > >....dude - green teeth are an everyday thang up here...that ain't no fantasy. i had forgotten you're in a tweeker town, too. around here, green teeth are the healthy ones. when you see baycrap brown teeth, you know their's a problem. >>> In article <gvydnSiygckLk_jWnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@mchsi.com>, Rufus <not@home.com> >> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > around here, green teeth are the healthy ones. > when you see baycrap brown teeth, you know their's a problem. ...yeah, if they have any teeth at all... Signature- Rufus >> In article <Vamdnc4QYJMax_vWnZ2dnUVZ_q1i4p2d@mchsi.com>, Rufus <not@home.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > >....yeah, if they have any teeth at all... i believe the really devout members of that faith can only clean with heavily sugared carbonated stain making waste products. remember, don't eat the yellow snow! >I blame it on my fellow modelers :-) I can understand that it is a big >investment bringing out a new injection-molded kit. Seems like so many [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] >> >> -ahill i like 20's airliners. 'specially them 3 motors. what was the first one adolph used? the one before the ju52m3?. it's very distinctive, wish a i knew what it is and had a kit of it. On Jan 28, 6:40 pm, some...@some.domain (some...@some.domain) wrote: > In article <4b61b018$0$48227$815e3...@news.qwest.net>, Don Stauffer <stauf...@usfamily.net> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > > - Show quoted text - I THINK that it was a Junkers G.23 and Revell AG did make a kit of it about eight years ago or so. Just after they the the Junkers F.13 the first time around. >On Jan 28, 6:40=A0pm, some...@some.domain (some...@some.domain) wrote: >> In article <4b61b018$0$48227$815e3...@news.qwest.net>, Don Stauffer <stau= [quoted text clipped - 59 lines] >about eight years ago or so. Just after they the the Junkers F.13 the >first time around. thank you. i will cast around a bit and see what i find. very goth looking bird? i saw a pic of shickelgruber with that stupid leather pull on nanny's cap. it would make a good dio. i think it was from 27 or so. he was electioneering as usual then. making speeches to raise cash, which he did quite well. he even sold mail order speech classes to the faithfull. i'm sure you're correct, it had junkers style all over it. sigh, another pile of plastic i covet. On Jan 28, 6:40 pm, some...@some.domain (some...@some.domain) wrote: > In article <4b61b018$0$48227$815e3...@news.qwest.net>, Don Stauffer <stauf...@usfamily.net> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Here's a kitbash for you. Take a D.H.4 and convert it to a D.H.4A transport. You can go either the sort-of civil airliner from 1918 or a US Army version from 1922. The fuselages were a bit different, but it's a reasonably easy conversion in either 1:72 or 1:48. A REAL simple one would be to convert a D.H.4 into a D.H.4 mailplane. Lots a fun. >On Jan 28, 6:40=A0pm, some...@some.domain (some...@some.domain) wrote: >> In article <4b61b018$0$48227$815e3...@news.qwest.net>, Don Stauffer <stau= [quoted text clipped - 62 lines] >A REAL simple one would be to convert a D.H.4 into a D.H.4 mailplane. >Lots a fun. and it's brit. almost as good as one with swastickers on it. thanks for the inspiration. >WHY is it! I can't buy an injected molded version >of the C-141 Starlifter in any model, but I can buy [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > >-ahill "god" doesn't seem to know about myopia and other afflictions like age that make your braille scale useless. 1/72 is good for cheapo kits that you can't really detail much. blech. > >> WHY is it! I can't buy an injected molded version [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > blech. > Having spent most of my modelling 'career' in 1/72nd I ought to take umbrage. Instead, I just build more 1/144th stuff now. And, Mr. Hill, we did have two 1/200th C-141s (A+B) from Dragon back in the '80s and '90s. I sold mine unbuilt and still kick myself about that. Back in the '50s Revell had some of those missile kits you mentioned but they were usually 1/40th or something weirder. Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr. |
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