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Well, he'd only need to sell one, I guess...

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MJH - 18 Feb 2010 00:52 GMT
Maybe they're the rare, platinum-plated versions?

http://shop.ebay.com/katsflyby/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p4340

MH
AMPSOne@aol.com - 18 Feb 2010 01:08 GMT
The most successful modelers I know are Shep Paine and Bill Horan and
they don't get prices like this. This guy is seriously misguided!

Cookie Sewell
Val Kraut - 18 Feb 2010 01:19 GMT
"> Maybe they're the rare, platinum-plated versions?

I'll bet there's a great explanation - like maybe he's been telling his wife
this is what a $100 kit is worth after he builds it, she believed it -
........... - and is now selling the models and other possessions. Wasn't
this in an episode of Murder She Wrote?  This could be the start of a really
long weird thread!!!
scottlowther@ix.netcom.com - 18 Feb 2010 05:10 GMT
> "> Maybe they're the rare, platinum-plated versions?
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> this in an episode of Murder She Wrote?  This could be the start of a really
> long weird thread!!!

Another theory is that he's laundering money for the mob.
Val Kraut - 18 Feb 2010 08:55 GMT
<> Another theory is that he's laundering money for the mob.

There was  a Pizza restaurant in new york some years ago that got flagged by
the IRS for making many times what any other Pizza restaurant in the country
was making - they reported it to the FBI - guess what they were really
selling.
Bruce Burden - 19 Feb 2010 05:06 GMT
: There was  a Pizza restaurant in new york some years ago that got flagged by
: the IRS for making many times what any other Pizza restaurant in the country
: was making - they reported it to the FBI - guess what they were really
: selling.

    1/700 scale ship dioramas for GBP 100,000?

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Musicman59 - 18 Feb 2010 02:19 GMT
the best part is that he is only charging $10.00 to ship from Greece.

Craig
Bruce Burden - 18 Feb 2010 03:15 GMT
: the best part is that he is only charging $10.00 to ship from Greece.

    I guess that is one way to help Greece solve their budget
   woes.

    Like that the 1/350 is $100,000, the 1/700's are GBP100,000.

                            Bruce
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Val Kraut - 18 Feb 2010 08:57 GMT
"> the best part is that he is only charging $10.00 to ship from Greece.

Does that include insurance?
The Old Man - 18 Feb 2010 10:57 GMT
> "> the best part is that he is only charging $10.00 to ship from Greece.
>
>  Does that include insurance?

Yeah but if you buy one of the more expensive kits for $157,230, you
get FREE SHIPPING!!!!
hill4448@gmail.com - 18 Feb 2010 04:25 GMT
> Maybe they're the rare, platinum-plated versions?
>
> http://shop.ebay.com/katsflyby/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_tr...
>
> MH

He didn't mean USD!  He meant Korean WON!!!!

1,000KRW = 1.12USD

That makes it far more realistic!  :)

"I'm a millionaire!  In WON!"
willshak - 18 Feb 2010 19:14 GMT
MJH wrote the following:
> Maybe they're the rare, platinum-plated versions?
>
> http://shop.ebay.com/katsflyby/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p4340 
>
> MH

I'll sell you mine for $50,000 US. No Diorama, just the model. I'll
include free shipping and insurance. But wait, there's more! If you act
now, I'll double the  value. I'll send a second Bismarck model free
(only pay the shipping).
But you have to act now.

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Uffe Bærentsen - 18 Feb 2010 22:24 GMT
> Maybe they're the rare, platinum-plated versions?
>
> http://shop.ebay.com/katsflyby/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p4340

Maybe the explanation is quite different.
In USA comma is used as thousand separator and dot is used as decimal point.
In many european countries it is opposit, that is, comma used as decimal
point and dot as thousand separator.

If that is the explanation, the price drops quit a bit :-)

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The Old Man - 19 Feb 2010 00:43 GMT
On Feb 18, 5:24 pm, "Uffe Bærentsen" <leiti_NOSP...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> > Maybe they're the rare, platinum-plated versions?
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> --
> Uffe Bærentsen

That is NOT the explanation;he doesn't want to sell anything, however
he DOES "take work on commission".
It's an ePay advertisement.
WmB - 20 Feb 2010 17:52 GMT
>he doesn't want to sell anything, however
>he DOES "take work on commission".
>It's an ePay advertisement.

I believe you've hit on the answer.

He may want to rethink his marketting strategy - the ludicrous pricing is
more than likely going to scare away more potential clients than it
attracts. Even someone in the market for museum grade work would probably
not scratch into it any further than the first few chuckles and laughs.

Maybe it's just me - but when I see people "throw down the glove" like
this - I start looking for features and value on the one hand and flaws on
the other. For 100K, I better be able to see thru the bridge portholes and
see the helmsman standing there - and his ribbons and medals better be
right. ;-)

WmB
Andy - 20 Feb 2010 23:48 GMT
> >he doesn't want to sell anything, however
> >he DOES "take work on commission".
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> WmB

So...  Are you guys suggesting that I didn't get a great deal when I
talked him into giving me BOTH a Hood and a Tirpitz for just $147,000
- with FREE shipping?
WmB - 21 Feb 2010 00:21 GMT
> >he doesn't want to sell anything, however
> >he DOES "take work on commission".
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>talked him into giving me BOTH a Hood and a Tirpitz for just $147,000
>- with FREE shipping?

For that kind of scratch, I'd have to be getting an actual artifact from
*THE* Hood and *THE* Tirpitz.

But... did you say FREE shipping!

WmB
Richard Brooks - 21 Feb 2010 01:46 GMT
WmB said the following on 21/02/2010 00:21:
>> So...  Are you guys suggesting that I didn't get a great deal when I
>> talked him into giving me BOTH a Hood and a Tirpitz for just $147,000
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> WmB

Or for a few million dollars more (it's a special deal), find a
picture of a dry dock and get some CGI wizard to overlay a copy of the
real thing being built over time with fake webcam pictures put up on a
website.
willshak - 19 Feb 2010 03:41 GMT
Uffe Bærentsen wrote the following:
>  
>> Maybe they're the rare, platinum-plated versions?
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> If that is the explanation, the price drops quit a bit :-)

It says it is $100,000.00 US.
Whatever the delineation, there are still 8 numbers;. 3 +3 +2
What would be the last 2 if not cents, or pence, or yen, or whatever?

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OldSchool - 19 Feb 2010 15:18 GMT
That's the "Buy It Now" price....maybe he just wants to discorage
somebody from doing that and see where the bidding settles?
willshak - 19 Feb 2010 15:41 GMT
OldSchool wrote the following:
> That's the "Buy It Now" price....maybe he just wants to discorage
> somebody from doing that and see where the bidding settles?
>  

It's not open to bidding.

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Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

OldSchool - 19 Feb 2010 18:08 GMT
> It's not open to bidding.
>
> --

so I see (now).  ah well, at least he can say he tried to get them out
of the house (or wherever)
David Young - 20 Feb 2010 17:29 GMT
I think he's completely serious. The diorama photos are beautiful;
this guy seems to have done remarkable work. There are a fair number
of folks in the world with more money than they can possibly spend in
several lifetimes. $100K to them for a plastic model, however
beautifully built, is like one of us dropping $100.

-- david
Mad Modeller - 21 Feb 2010 00:20 GMT
> I think he's completely serious. The diorama photos are beautiful;
> this guy seems to have done remarkable work. There are a fair number
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> -- david
>  
It takes a big chunk of my personality to drop $100 on anything.  $5 is
more my comfort zone.

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
willshak - 21 Feb 2010 15:16 GMT
David Young wrote the following:
> I think he's completely serious. The diorama photos are beautiful;
> this guy seems to have done remarkable work. There are a fair number
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> -- david
>  

I don't think that he does any better than some of us here. I've seen a
lot of similar models built as well as his.
Even if the ships were scratch built, they are way overpriced. Why is
the 1/350 model of the Bismarck priced less (US $100,000.00) than the
1/700 models (US $154,170.00)?
I have a lot of nitpicks regarding his 'museum quality' models.

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Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

Bruce Burden - 22 Feb 2010 03:16 GMT
: I have a lot of nitpicks regarding his 'museum quality' models.

    For GBP 100,000, I'd hand deliver the damn things myself.
   For the matter, I'd hand deliver them for US $100,000. :-)

                            Bruce
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David Young - 25 Feb 2010 18:02 GMT
Uh oh. Look here: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160408095543.
This one is going for 1,000GBP, *not* 100,000GBP. Maybe this fellow
mismanaged his decimal points and commas? Guess I was wrong; he's
serious but not *that* serious.

-- david
 
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