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William H. Shuey - 06 Mar 2004 01:42 GMT
I see a new version of the Hasegawa Bf-109F on the shelves at my local
plastic emporium. It is labeled as a Bf-109F-6/U "Galland". What makes
it different besides Dolpho's markings on the decal sheet?  Anybody had
a look in the box?

                        Bill Shuey
Rufus - 06 Mar 2004 02:02 GMT
> I see a new version of the Hasegawa Bf-109F on the shelves at my local
> plastic emporium. It is labeled as a Bf-109F-6/U "Galland". What makes
> it different besides Dolpho's markings on the decal sheet?  Anybody had
> a look in the box?
>
>                         Bill Shuey

Um...1/32?..

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e - 06 Mar 2004 02:46 GMT
>> I see a new version of the Hasegawa Bf-109F on the shelves at my local
>> plastic emporium. It is labeled as a Bf-109F-6/U "Galland". What makes
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>
>Um...1/32?..

one of them armored dohickeys on the back of the seat?
Ron - 06 Mar 2004 02:58 GMT
IIRC extra wing cannon and the windscreen telescope.

> I see a new version of the Hasegawa Bf-109F on the shelves at my local
> plastic emporium. It is labeled as a Bf-109F-6/U "Galland". What makes
> it different besides Dolpho's markings on the decal sheet?  Anybody had
> a look in the box?
>
>                                                 Bill Shuey
Dave Williams - 06 Mar 2004 14:03 GMT
Galland felt that the reduction to only one 20 cannon in the F model was a
retrograde step, so he had a special aircraft built that restored the two
20mm wing cannon as in the E model.

The new Hasegawa kit has extra parts for the wing cannon

http://www.hlj.com/scripts/hljpage.cgi?HSG09521

Dave

> I see a new version of the Hasegawa Bf-109F on the shelves at my local
> plastic emporium. It is labeled as a Bf-109F-6/U "Galland". What makes
> it different besides Dolpho's markings on the decal sheet?  Anybody had
> a look in the box?
>
> Bill Shuey
Rufus - 06 Mar 2004 18:04 GMT
Ok...there's my answer...excitement dampened...

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> Galland felt that the reduction to only one 20 cannon in the F model was a
> retrograde step, so he had a special aircraft built that restored the two
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>>Bill Shuey
Keeper - 07 Mar 2004 08:26 GMT
>It is labeled as a Bf-109F-6/U "Galland"

Anybody remember the all metal F in Fine Scale Modeler years back? I'd love to
know if anyone ever finally found out if Galland flew an all metal F or not.
tia

Keeper (of too much crap)
Azzz1588 - 07 Mar 2004 15:50 GMT
>Galland felt that the reduction to only one 20 cannon in the F model was a
>retrograde step,

He wasnt the only one, there were pleanty who thought
that was an extremely bad idea. Regardless of the fact
that the centerline cannon was easier to aim at greater
distances, it was a retrograde step.

Dont believe it, for fun, fly both models in UBI Softs, IL 2
Forgotten Battles flight simultion. I definately preffer the
E4/7 model over the F's almost any day. Though the
flight performance is better in the F, you put out fewer
high power rounds in those fleeting seconds of firing
time. Against russian IL 2's, you need all the firepower
you can get ! And against a B 17, it's almost a pathetic
joke... (and neither one stands up to a .50 cal puonding)
This is definately the best WW II flight simulation to
come out, and they now have added a western front
setup as well. Lots of addon's, and online play :)

American F4F pilots felt the same way when they went
from a six gun wing to a four gun wing. Many pilots were
very unhappy about that.

"Only a Gentleman can insult me, and a true Gentleman never will..."
William H. Shuey - 07 Mar 2004 17:53 GMT
> >Galland felt that the reduction to only one 20 cannon in the F model was a
> >retrograde step,
>
> American F4F pilots felt the same way when they went
> from a six gun wing to a four gun wing. Many pilots were
> very unhappy about that.

    Actually, you have it backwards. The F4F-3 fixed wing Wildcat had 4 X
.50 Cal. brownings and carried 450 rounds per gun. The U.S. pilots in
the Pacific were less than ecstatic about the -4 Wildcat because the 6
guns only carried 250 rounds per gun, which almost halved their firing
time. They felt this was a definite problem in a long sustained fight
against the Japanese Navy's air units. They also didn't like the
increased weight of the folding wing and it's negative effect on the
F4Fs all ready slow climb rate vs. a vs. the Zero. Many pilots would go
into action with only the four inner guns armed so they would have the
two outer .50s to fall back on when the inner guns went dry. Most U.S.
Navy Pilots pitched so many bitches about the -4's wing that when GM
took over Wildcat Production, the Navy specified that the FM-1 and FM-2
should revert to the 4 gun armament with increased ammunition.
    It was the British who wanted the 6 gun wing. In the Atlantic they were
dealing with Focke-Wolf Condors and BV-138s and such and felt the
increased firepower was needed. But these were single targets, albeit
heavily armed & armored. It was a different situation from the multi
bogey scenarios that the U.S. Navy pilots were facing at Guadalcanal.
    Get a copy of "The First Team", Vol. 1, by John B. Lundstrom or Eric
Hammel's "Aces Against Japan", Vol. 1. Both authors allude to these
problems, Lundstrom more so.

                            Bill Shuey
 
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